Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   cazzava says:
    Posted: 26 Aug 08

    Honestly... I'm a white man in my mid-thirties and I really don't think there is anything sexier or more alluring than a black woman. I celebrate a woman's natural curves no matter what her ethnicity... however, when it comes to "putting it all together" black women are hands-down the most beautiful and authentic.

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  2. Posted: 24 Aug 08

    pimp away......tell us more write66....sounds good so far....lol

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  3.   write66 says:
    Posted: 15 Aug 08

    Wow...I had something strong to post here, but I thought I'd read through the previous messages to see if it had been covered. After sifting through all the wheat and chaff...I'm not sure if it has! Well, here's my take. I don't exclusively date black women, but I increasingly find myself more attracted to them. To me, many black women have a very alluring mix of (not in any particular order) intelligence, humor, spirituality, loyalty, strength, openness, sensuality and laughter. Not to say non-black women do not have these qualities. It's just that I've found it more prevalent in black women. There's more, but I'll allow the Grammar Police to jump in now :) Actually, I'd love to hear comments from others too. Peace, blessings and love to all. Bill P.S. OK -- full disclosure. I CAN cook, but not a great one...yet! And I have an Italian name! :) That's shameful pimpin', I know....

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  4.   LegalEaseII says:
    Posted: 14 Aug 08

    Dear Cousin_Joe: Read your email and have a good day.

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  5.   LegalEaseII says:
    Posted: 14 Aug 08

    Dear SmileyKy: What a wonderful heartfelt post. Thank you for answering the question with such beauty and honesty. It is hard for Afro women in this society (well, all women) so it is nice to know that men like you are watching. In turn, don't be afraid to go up to one of us and let us know you appreciate us. You may get the "crazy eye" (LOL) sometimes but know deep down inside, we appreciate the compliment. Take good care!

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  6. Posted: 14 Aug 08

    SmileyKy thanks for your comments. It is wonderful to have so much support from great guys like you. Black women do not have much support in our everyday lives, except from family and sometimes not even that. Yes, we are strong, confident, intelligent and can make it on our own. We just want what every woman wants to be appreciated and love.

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  7. Posted: 14 Aug 08

    Hola, Good People... Again, thanks for the tips......I normally don't write such long posts(in fact this is the only forum I have been posting on regularly now).....I guess I have just been "feeling" my muse lately (on and offline). No, I don't think you are crazy, Rochi and I still think of you the way I did in the beginning of our exchange (if it matters to you at all); that you are a interesting human being with some evolved thought processes. I have some years (I'm 33) on you but I really don't think that matters. I am more a kid a heart and YES, I am a dreamer, a thinker AND an adventurer. Life is an incredible ride and I think the world is big enough for all sorts of people to enjoy it in harmony with each other. YES, that is the idealist in me talking but really you must know that anything good starts off with an idea (usually thought to be hair-brained at the onset..lol). I could be called crazy too.....the fact that I am a walking contradiction in sooo many ways (dreamer/thinker, conservative/free-spirit, movie-freak/bibliophile......lol.....but NO, not BI-POLAR.....but hey then again we all just might be to one degree or another....lol). I am just one of those people that can (or at least tries to) see all sides of an issue. Love/attraction is just one of those things that happens to have dozens of facets to it and I LOVE IT. To quesiton it may or maynot be a good thing seeing as how people sometimes aren't even honest with themselves when it comes to this issue...... That brings me to SmileyKy's post.....(nice to actually see one from a man....j/p.....8^P)....let's be honest ladies, those are just plain nice to read. I'm not sure if it has been said here yet or not but women of color have some heavy "crosses to bear" at times.....PERIOD. You all know what I speak of (whether or not you come from "the 'hood" is irrelevant......you ARE part of a GLOBAL COMMUNITY no matter what you may think) and those kinds of posts lighten the load a little bit. I like his post (although he could have left that lil negative part about other women out of it...lol) because he just kept it simple. The forum title poses a question and he answered from what seemed like his heart. We can hate him for that. Because honestly whatever any man writes in here it should come a distant second to what you feel about yourself already.......SELF-LOVE, DAYUMMIT....it's NOT a dirty/bad thing, people!!!!.....lol PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO ALL tatted2death P.S.....oh...I thought of another movie(how could I have forgotten.....this is one romantic picture I actually LOVED and it IS BF/WM centered)..THE LAST PLACE ON EARTH...it stars Tisha Campbell and Dana Ashbrook and it is just a sweet little story. Dang, I am getting all misty just thinking about it....LOL. Anyways.....THAT is definitely one I would recommend to just about anyone. Kinda sappy but hail......sometimes we all need a lil sap...lol. OK...NOW the movie critic hat is off ......for now....LOL

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  8.   SmileyKy says:
    Posted: 14 Aug 08

    Hey, I am a white male and here is why I love black women. First, and I don't know why this is the case, but black women have a way of just putting me at ease with their inner wisdom, humor, and kindness, and down-to-earthness. Second, I think black women truly appreciate it when a man puts her as the center of his live and wants to do for her and make her happy. (I think white women take this for granted). Third, who can not help but love the physical beauty of black women. Of course, all of her is beautiful, but ESPECIALLY her eyes and smile. So, black women, when you see blue eyes looking at you, and you may be wondering, but just look a bit deeper, and you may find an amazing and deep love and appreciation for your being. to

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  9.   legaleaseII says:
    Posted: 13 Aug 08

    Hey Tatted: Much love sistuh gurl friend. LOL!!! I still love you despite my obvious attraction for Cousin_Joe. Girl if this thing gets off of the ground I will have you at the podium, with a "knew them when" sign" on your back. LOL!!!! I know about being happily single but am ready to move on with someone who compliments me. If CJ is that person great, if not, then the worst I have done is made another friend. But keep your fingers crossed. LOL!!! I agree with you on the "YIKES she black/he white, OMG, stick-it-in-your face kind of thing." Subtle, genuine relationships is what I want to see on screen. I have a friend (who by the way is dark skinned and married to WM. When she first started dating her hubby, his family would say "She's attractive for a black gal" LOL!!! Ouch. Anywho, got to run, sneaking a peak in the middle of the day. Peace & love to all. And, geneandthem, come back!!! Geneandthem please don't go away mad, come back. You are one of the main reasons I came to this site. Your posts are legendary.

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  10. Posted: 13 Aug 08

    Geneandthem, I am 21, but I've been in college for four years, so I'm not too much of a noob to the earth. Nothing you've listed seems abnormal. "Smelling colors" might, but only because the average everyday person does not know about Synethesia. He is one of the people scientists and doctors use to research and gather information about it. It's pretty interesting. Why not read up on it? I'm sure you'll find it fascinating. As I said, it has nothing to do with the paranormal or anything. And qwhat's wrong with youtube? It's not like I linked to someone's vblog. That was part of a respected lecture that shouldn't be on YT because it is copyright infringement. But, well, it's there anyway. The oher one was a documentary they showed on the Biology channel, or one of the Disovery Network channels. I don't know. Maybe the people here are more idealistic than what I am used to. I haven't responded harshly to anyone but genandthem and Cousin_Joe, and I'm not responding to CJ anymore anyway because, as I said, this isn't a debate site and he does not know what he is talking about. I never meant that I am "better" than him. I know more about *that* than he does, is all. I'm sure there's plenty he can kick my ass with, logically. We all can't know about everything yet, unfortunately. And I'm sorry I am not "normal" enough for you, but it's no biggie =) -RoChi Tatted, I ws just saying that if you actually can recall things from your infanthood, then that is pretty cool, considering most people cannot. You should feel special ^_^ I don't think people are stupid for ascribing to a certain faith or anything, but rather specific things. I won't condemn anybody for believing in God, for example. I know what it's like to be condemned for something stupid, and I tend to do the whole, "Treat others how you wish to be treated" thing. But I'll definitely read up on them. As I said, I don't want to judge you, but understand where you're coming from more. I think your beliefs are a good start, yes? They sound intersting anyway. I've seen all those movies! And I've never heard of Fiennes and Spader, but I'll look it up XD I don't watch too many movies, anyway. But Supernatural and Sci-fi are fun to watch... I might be more of a book person. I do that for my longer posts, and then I erase them. For a post like this, I'll just copy it in case the internet or something acts up. So, do you think I'm crazy, too? I'm not asking about harshness or anything---I know I'm a toughie, lol. Call me one of those active people. I'm not just the dreamer or the hoper. I act on those dreams, and I don't jus sit back and "hope" for them to happen some day. I might be a bit too rough at times, though, but I apologize. Poetlove's given up on me too, it looks like... -RoChi

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  11.   poetlove says:
    Posted: 13 Aug 08

    I'm done with this as well everyone has my love. God bless Al Walker

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  12. Posted: 13 Aug 08

    AWWWw.....Ashley please don't go....you know I was going to say something about *some* women scaring off the good men...but......nevermind.....LOL Legalease.....I also appreciate the compassion and love I recognize your posts.....(before and after the coming of Cousin Joe....lol...I want frontrow seats at the wedding....8^P)....Man, I think the world would truly be a better place if people could just let their heart (at peace, of course) guide them... Thanks for the kind words, Cousin Joe......It's nice to be called "exquisite".....also thanks for the copy and paste tip......I actually thought of that after the first time it happened.....lol. Sometimes it's just TOO DAYUM LATE to be up and staring at a comp screen.....geeesh...lol. Anywho.....here is the reply I originally wrote on 8-11-08.....(DANG.....alot can happen in 48 hours...guess it's why they have that show 8^P) ---------------------------------------------------- Man, it was just one of those posts that summed up everything I wanted to say about the issue.....and YES, I wanted to throw my computer out the effin window....lol. While I take pride in learning something new everyday it's been awhile since I mastered the ABC's and 123's...lol.....But seriously, I don't think the fact that I (or potentially anyone else) can remember (under the right circumstances) parts of my infanthood makes me all that intellectual (now or then)..but that is a whole other can of "blog misdirection" that I ain't even messin with.....lol(Besides I think the whole thing could possibly be summed up with the phrase "I was born 40"...lol). About the links....umm....I don't exactly have any but I suppose you could google any writings by the Dalai Lama or Tricyle Mag and get the jist of some of my thought processes. (no, I am NOT necessarily a Buddhist but I don't think you have to be to "consciously absorb")......But keep in mind, if you are going in having certain thoughts (like some people are just "idiots" for having a this or that kind of faith or whatever) it'll be a waste of time...So, it's your call. They won't necessarily give you that much insight on me for I still have my own points of view but I don't think they'll disappoint if you are looking for a good read and possibly a different way of thinking/feeling. As for the piercings I have had to take them (the facial ones anyway) out for different reasons, but have had both brows and the lip at alternate times. I still have my ear cartilage (tragus and rook in right ear) ones in and have my lobes stretched (6 gauge and moving up soon). *****I really am not a big fan of alot of the blatant, in-your-face, she-be-black/he-be-white, movies that are the "trend" lately. I mean, Something New and Guess Who were cute and somewhat entertaining....AND I do appreciate the sentiment behind them. But I guess I am just a more subtle kind of gal. There are two such movies that stand out to me in this area (both having Angela Basset as the female in question....gosh I love her work.....fierce everytime, without fail)....STRANGE DAYS (with Ralph Fiennes) and SUPERNOVA (with James Spader)....interesting that both are also sort sci-fi or futuristic....my fave genre anyway...lol. In both movies the relationships are in the background and as you watch you almost totally forget that there is even an interracial factor at all. I LOVE THAT. (I also love Fiennes and Spader but that is another tale....lol). I think the talent of the actors/actress involved contribute a great deal to that "at-ease/not trying to prove anything" feel. Now if you ARE NOT a sci-fi geek like myself you might enjoy CONSTELLATION. While it is not WM/BF centered, there are so-called interracial relationships and a superb combo of good character development AND realistic story-telling (A rare-combo in these sort of drama-laden films). ANYWAY, let me take off my movie critic hat now (another calling I missed....LOL). But hey give me a topic like movies or music and I could write for hours....easy.!!! Peace and Blessings tatted2death P.S......ok Wordpress almost did it to me again.....for those not in the know, NEVER try to submit a lengthy comment without copy and pasting to Word or Notepad.....GEEESH....LOL. -------------------------------------------------- *As you can see there at the end Cousin Joe....my brain did eventually wake up....lol

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  13.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 13 Aug 08

    RoChi, Sometimes you seem great! And other times you seem out of this world! I also get this, Everyone is beneath you feel from you like you are Superior and everyone else is Inferior to you! You talk down to peeps a lot!I am not sure how young you are but you sound really naive and sheltered. There are only a handful of normal people in here, Think I'm signing off for good! Since my last post it has been so ridicules in here that I have felt sick at the thought of even responding to some of the crap said here! "Smelling colors" "Statistics" "Science" "YOU TUBE" WTF???? REMEMBER!!!!!! """"""Why white men love the black woman""""""!!!!! So to all the Normal's in here, LegalEaseII, tatted2death, seancarter03, poetlove, smooches, Good luck! And please remain the same! Ashley,

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  14. Posted: 13 Aug 08

    Cousin_Joe, I didn’t really “attack᾿ you so much as tell you what is apparently the truth about you, from what I am observing. I’m not insecure. I don’t like ignorance and I don’t like it to be spread. I don’t see how you figure that as insecure. I don’t take what my family has done out on anybody but them when they deserve it. You need to get your head out of you a** if you think that none of it was inspired by your apparent gap in education. I never said that YOU are spreading hate. I was asking which one is worse---hate or ignorance, and then I went on to say that hate stems from ignorance. Nothing about you. Your appeal to emotion is darling. Does it matter if you said it to me? I apologize for not liking the idea of children being raised by ignorant adults. You can go cry about it or talk about how unfair I am or whatever you opt to do, but it won’t change my opinion. I’m sure you feel the same way about more extreme things, unless you’re an a**hat who thinks that it is okay to instill venomous, hateful garbage into children’s minds. You see, at least I *read* what is being said, which apparently you cannot do so thoroughly. I didn’t say you should be slapped because you “won᾿ or anything like it, but because you’re ignorant. How many times does this need to be said? Do you really want to challenge me in a debate? Do you have a site you regularly attend? If you think you can stand it, hit me up. You've got me wrong on how I think, at any rate. I'd most likely thank you for changing my opinion or "defeating" me, not attack you. You see, I appreciate learning, which is all that would be. And just so you know, being able to debate does not mean you know and can debate about everything. And one-on-one? Are you scared? Why don’t we take it to a public debate forum and get fresh opinions? I don’t want to debate with just you because you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about with any of this. Do you mean the 1, 2, 3 answers? I *am* talking about objective answers, not ask every person you see the questions and see what they say. 1) Chicken or egg? Egg. This isn’t even a magical question. The chicken is assumed to be far from the first animal (the T-Rex is in its family, interesting fact). Chickens and everything related to them lay eggs. The first actual fully evolved chicken could not have gotten here without being hatched from an egg. If not, then where did this mystical chicken come from? People are asking this question and acting like chickens are the first animals. Basic duh. 2) These can be combined since they are the same. Nothing in itself has sound. Nothing in itself has color. The tree falling would produce a *sound wave*, which is not a sound. It has to be translated by the brain as a sound before it is actually a sound. Same with colors, somewhat. Colors are simply visible wavelengths that our brains translate into colors. You know why different species see different colors? Because they see different wavelengths. Some people are reported as seeing ultraviolet waves or infrared rays, which will produce a different color than for those of us who cannot see these, because our brain can’t translate these colors. Just like humans generally can’t hear the highest and lowest frequencies of sounds. No human and no animal sees or hears the world as it is because no human or animal’s brain picks up every last thing. Everybody and everything only has a working model of what the world is to help them survive. This is where science comes in handy. You can’t ask everybody these questions and assume they are all qualified to answer them. Someone who is not versed in physics and biology at all can’t explain this to you. For all we know, they might be saying aliens do it. And, who knows. Maybe aliens have something to do with it. We can’t know every angle for sure and nobody is saying we can. But we can know *some* angles, and that’s all we can go by until we find more. Proof is better than going on a whim and sticking to it 'just because'. You know, it’s not like science is about being perfect. It’s about trying to figure out how and why things work through hypothesizing and testing and observing and concluding. Scientific method, anyone? They’re gonna get it wrong sometimes, buddy. But, you know what? They’re gonna get it right more times than the average everyday nuts who think everything can be known just by thinking about it with no knowledge guiding it. Heard of Karl Marx? That’s one of his criticisms. He based some of his ideas off of assumptions and bulls***. The imperfection does not come with the experiments, but from those who are interpreting them. We are but humans and we cannot expect to make no mistakes. And, hurray for tomorrow’s science if it means we know how to save for lives and educate more minds! We achieve by DOING, not THINKING. Sure, thinking is a huge part of it, but unless we’re all telekinetic, nothing will get accomplished without action. And since when is a little trial and error a bad thing? Thomas Edison would have liked to chat with you. Something about a light bulb and 2000 times or something. My family is hardcore Christian and I am an atheist. Have been for years. You see, I don’t base knowledge off of religion, but off of knowledge. I am not giving you credit for your bullsh*t ideas because they are bullsh*t. One of my college professors is a devout Christian and possibly the smartest man I have ever known. Smartest person, really. If you stop flushing your head down the proverbial toilet and LEARN about what you’re talking about before opening your yap, then I’ll give you credit. And ad hominem's aren't appreciated. Did you ever think to believe that maybe you shouldn’t start analyzing my personal life? I confided in my friend that I was no longer a Christian, and she told my mom. The first thing she did was beat the sh*t out of me. She didn’t even ask if it was true. If she had, I would have just lied anyway. My parents are not accepting. Man, I wonder what they’d've done if I were gay… My personality hadn’t changed at all. I harbored different beliefs is all; I didn’t ‘dislike’(hate) homosexuals anymore and I didn’t blindly believe sh*t in the Bible. I was no longer plagued with the fear of having to choose between going to Heaven with my mom and possibly getting beat there too or burning in hell. I honestly couldn’t decide which was worse. I don’t look at much of anything as negatively as I used to, is the biggest change. Haha, my disbelief in Jesus perhaps made me more like what he is depicted as than my belief in him (in my ability to accept and love people). But I am one of those extreme cases. Strangely, I’m left not traumatized, but motivated. As I said, general ignorance causes hate. If my family weren’t so a**backwards, I would not have had to go through what I went through. You should hear their perception of reality. I wouldn’t care so much if my mother’s job didn’t actively transmit her garbage to other people. Am I blaming this on their religion? No. It’s not like everyone who picks up a bible is converted. The affirmation of their repugnant and extreme views is the big factor and what I dislike. (Not the “love everybody like Jesus does!᾿ stuff. I have no problem with that.) Your ability to comprehend information is amazing. I didn’t say that at all and I was not insinuating it, either. Knowledge is naturally the opposite of ignorance. Science helps fuel that knowledge. But thinking about something =/= knowledge of it. Someone who thinks with every fibre of their being the earth is made of cottage cheese and flying space potato monkeys are what stars *really* are doesn’t constitute knowledge. Again, a thought =/= knowledge. It can lead to it, but it is not knowlegde in itself. I have said many times that science doesn’t have all the answers, but it is the best way to get them so far. What are you implying? That thinking about something and saying, “Well, I thought it, so it must be true!᾿ is the best method? What do you think is better and has a chance of being more accurate than science? Remember the scientific method and name nothing that’s process is remotely close, because then you’ll be naming something scientific. You really don’t know what you’re talking about, hmn? They say we’re headed towards BOTH. Why does one have to happen and the other does not? The theory is that the earth goes through periodic cycles of both. Or at least that’s one theory. As for scientists having differing opinions, it makes it worth investigating, yes? And how is this different from anything else? And not every scientist is going to share the same level of credibility, FYI. It wouldn’t be “false᾿ if it replicates how the brain operates when it is in love. What happens when a woman forgets to take the pill? She might get pregnant. Sh*t happens. Deal. It’s not like love is infinite, anyway. You’re acting as if couples very much in love never fall out of love. And way to be pessimistic. What if the concoction *restores* love? What if it gives people a chance at feeling love who otherwise would not have one? Is it so bad, then? You think that the “divorce industry᾿ is the reason relationships fail? That’s like saying relationships only start because of marriage. You see, a relationship problem can progress even if divorce were illegal, just like love can progress even if marriage were illegal. Or what? Do you think it is better to force failing couples to stay with each other to entertain your idealistic thoughts? Get this: relationship failures and successes were here long before marriage or divorce. You name ONE thing and think it discredits everything? You say you can debate and you don’t even know what logical fallacies are. Of course it is! So, babe, donate your clothes and house and computer and car and books and money and jewelry and toothpaste and TV(s) and glasses and bed and everything else you have to charity, because they aren’t “nature taking its course,᾿ because they're all here throuh science. Next time you get sick, don’t even think of going to the hospital and getting their unnatural medicine. If you break your leg, chop the damn thing off or let nature f*ck it up even more for you. You sound like an idiot idealist. Reality check due soon, yes? Let all those children in Africa with aids suffer. I mean, Sickle Cell evolved as a natural “treatment᾿, right? It’s not like SC doesn’t hurt or anything! All those cancer patients… f*ck those b*tches! They don’t deserve help. Amputation victims? Please. It’s not like they should have a chance at living their lives as they normally would, just because we can make it happen. And don't even get me started on people who can't regularly become pregnant because of natural causes... Women and men can’t see the world through each other’s eyes. Ever. The best we can do is understand what we each are seeing and thinking. And what’s wrong with that one? It’s what everyone needs to do with everybody they associate with. Likewise. -RoChi PS - Forget about the other site. I'm hoping this is my last reply to you. Until you quite the idealist crap, I have no desire to debate with you any further. When you learn about this stuff, just name the site and I'm there.

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  15. Posted: 12 Aug 08

    Before I respond to things addressed to me, I will pose that my boyfriend has the most interesting reason for liking black women than anyone on this blog who has replied. He has something called Synethesia, which intertwines senses. Normally, one would hear a sound or feel a touch or see a color. Synethesia causes one to "hear" a color or "see" a sound or "feel" certain pitch of music instead of the normal sensations. This isn't paranormal or anything and it makes a lot of sense. The only reason we sense things as we do is because our brains are wired in a way that allowes this. The parietal lobe probably has something to do with it, I think. Much research is being done on it. For a better explanation, you could use Wikipedia or google. (Note that this is not drug induced and nothing needs to be "done" in order for these things to happen to these people. It is not "imagined." For them, it is natural as us seeing a color rather than hearing it.) Anyway, he can "taste" colors in addition to seeing them. It's not for people in particular, but, since people have colors, he gets a taste sensation in his mouth when he sees them. He says dark brown "tastes" like blueberries, and he's in love with blueberries. He says my color (I'm a light brown. Like... Keri Hilson in "Energy") "tastes" like apples, and he loves apples too. He says that lighter shades don't taste bad (except yellow. He can't stand yellow...), but they don't taste as "interesting" as the darker shades. (This is probably an f'ed up version of his explanation. I'm not even going to pretend like I completely remember or understand what he said.) I know I must sound like a fruit or a 12 year old. These eplain it better (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvwTSEwVBfc or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8f_Bg8cdg) -RoChi

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  16.   LegalEaseII says:
    Posted: 12 Aug 08

    Hey Tatted: You speak with much peace and wisdom in your posts. Got the "weird" reference but you never know where someone is coming from so please forgive me. I was just trying to encourage you if the reference was coming from a place of self-deprication. :) Not much for the tatoos but if they work for you then they are ok with me. BTW, I have met two hard core, Harvard and U of Wisconsin trained scientists and they are both committed to a spritual faith. They gave me a book to read, God & Science (sorry forgot the author) which helped me draw some amazing similarities between the two. May be worth a read if you are interested. I hear ya on the Happily Single angle, I have been there and think it is a healthy place to be for a time. Peace!! LeagalEaseII (LEII)

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  17.   LegalEaseII says:
    Posted: 12 Aug 08

    Hi Cousin Joe: How are you? I see you are back amongst us. Yes, I received the flirt and promoptly flirted right back. I sent a post on August 5th, unfortunately that is the last time I have been able to visit the site. I see you have returned to the blog with a vengance. YIKES. Ususally I would throw my proverbial hat into the fray but to be perfectly honest, I do not want to engage into yet another debate. I spend all day "debating" with people. I have honed my skills in this area. I just wanted to meet someone nice, who wants to get to know me for me. We can spend all day debating the matter, but truth be told, at the end of the day, I would much rather be with someone who wants/compliments me, sans speculation, rhetoric, etc. I read your profile and you sound like someone I would like to get to know better. It sounds like you have boiled some things down to the heart of the matter and that for me, bears a second look. I, in turn, must appease Caesar, go forth and deposit the applicable tax so we can get this Delorean down the road to that Jeter/Loving wedding. LOL!!! I am going to be in your neck of the woods this week end. I have to make my profile so if your schedule permits, we can get together. So until then, go get 'em but play nice!!! LegalEaseII PS: I have been known to be a pill at times but I gurantee, there is nothing artificial about me. As for jumping out of cakes, only under the right circumstances. LOL!!

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  18. Posted: 10 Aug 08

    Tatted2death, Aww, me sowwies. Was it a total ass-kicking or just one of those perfect things that you wanna kill your computer for losing it (or both >.>)? I am not sure what you mean by "spirituality" if you're associating it with science at all, so I suppose I'll just say it doesn't matter and drop it =) As for signs, I don't believe in them in that way but some things annoy me to the point where I wanna question it. Typical thoughts like, "Well, that figures" because of things like you just said. If that happened to me, I would have just said "forget it" for the day. You seem to be much more patient than myself, though, so... Can I have those links? Not for a debate, but I see this as a chance to sneak into your head a bit more. I mentioned earlier that I like learning how and what people think. What's fun about acknowledging differences if we're not going to learn about them, right? Heck, maybe my views won't be all that different . Yeesh. You must've been one hell of an intellectual baby... unless you learned to read and talk recently. o_0 Some explanations "click" better than others. Or I could just be stupid. What other forum sites do you go on, if any? What piercings do you have? I said before that my tongue and eyebrow is pierced. I might get my lip pierced. My belly button is pierced too. I don't think I'll be getting too many more piercings. <..confuzzled< Regarding your PS, I wasn't implying that you were calling yourself weird. I was actually suggesting those sites as a joke, but that didn't go to well ('cause I didn't make it clear that I was kidding. Sorry) =O Have you seen any WM/BF movies or read any WM/BF-centered books? If so, which ones did you like (if you liked any of them)? -RoChi Where are poetlove and geneandthem?

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  19. Posted: 10 Aug 08

    Ya know what; I typed a superb (in my opinion, OF COURSE...LOL) reponse to Rochi and then right as I was submitting I was booted offline.....but you know what else; none of it really mattered anyway. I am a believer of "signs" to a certain degree and that was definitely one of them. I am NOT a debater....not when it comes to matters of MY heart.....PERIOD..... Alot of my points were misinterpreted/misunderstood in my previous post (my fault.....maybe) and much of it spoke of SPIRITUALITY NOT RELIGION. (only used Christianity as a reference....ONCE)The whole "unveiling" thing had to do alot with people really coming to the realization that spirituality actually does have more in common with science (thought I stated that....go figure) and that it is certainly more important than religion (or lack of one for all the Atheists out there). I know some don't believe this and I am not stomping on that but, again this is ME. I could direct you (or anyone else) to some publications that can explain some of my feelings on the matter (feelings that I had LONG before I could even read or talk, actually.....YES, I can remember back that far), if you are truly interested and not just wanting to be "entertained".....they aren't really all that good for that purpose. I am chosing to pass on the right to explain these things in my own words because it is apparent that my expository writing will forever be "in the mist" for some. As for the piercings......yeah I love 'em......so much so that you can "stick a fork" in my a$$ because I am done.......lol Peace and Blessings tatted2death... ..P.S....."let the record show"......that I have previously stated that I am "happily single"......TRULY. I am NOT actively searching for anyone/thing so there is no need to direct me to other sites.....too much....lol. Thanks, but NO, thanks. I only "shared my story" because it was requested....was NOT making a plea or any backwards crap like that. Nor was I seeking validation by calling myself weird.....I figured those who got the joke (and the Hunter S. Thompson reference) would just "let it roll".....just setting that ol' stupid record straight...*smilez*

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  20.   naturalcd says:
    Posted: 10 Aug 08

    @ yryrizaaol, I totally agree with you.

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  21. Posted: 10 Aug 08

    I love the ladies...but especially hot black women. My current soon to be ex wife is black; she used to be really hot when she was younger...is really tall and I signed her up for proffesional modeling when she was 17, and again at 20.. and she got me hooked, but now she is 22 and a total high maintenance psycho bitch drama queen with issues who eats ice cream like its going out of style, but before I seguway on towards another tangent. My new girl is way fly...we've had a mutual crush for well over two years. I met her at work, but never acted on anything because I was tryna make it work with wifey. Hotty calls me back to the shop one day and gives me a letter that says she thinks I'm handsome and it was a shame I was married...4-Real. the twist is that wifey is psycho and comes at me with knives and throws ashtrays at me, called me a fucking scumbag just cuz hotty thinks I'm smooth. In the 5 years I was married to Wifey she split a week after our first anniversary after having a miscarriage. Then got arrested for beating up her interim boyfriend in N. Cali. I recall wifey as my girl, but she beat her grandma when her grandma talked smack about me...REDFLAG. Prior and to this day is always in a relationship and finnally came stalking me down at college; she even went as far as calling my dorm room at 12:30 AM after I had initially signed divorce papers. I should have never taken her back...but at that time I was still in love in spite of her lack of faithfulness. 3 years later....after countless arguments and lies and all the other B.S. that comes with an unfaithful spouse, from her bitch ass boyfriends calling my house and what not...I finnally had it with Wifey and told her to get gone. I told her 6 months ago I wasn't in love with her but she is like a black widow lurking in the shadows for her next victim (no joke) Well, within three weeks super hotty calls me up and wants me to come kick it; I told her I just wanted to be friends, but she insisted we be more than friends. Yea, super hotty is a black beauty that I can really learn to love. We are just chill an are like best friends with a grip in common + she is so intelligent and absolutely engaging in every aspect that I could possibly ever imagine in my wildest dreams. She already wants my babies and 2 be Wifey 2.0. in due time sweet thing... Ladies love me. I love the black ladies; give me two hot dime pieces one white and one black, sorry yo, but I gotta have that black one, and she's the one for me, thats how it's gonna be...what can a white daddy with a grip of ambition and highly educated background (technical not an English Major...Engineering Baby Doll) can't seem to fend off the ladies unless I go into hiding type of shit is what I'm talking about. P.S. & bye the way sweet miss Caribbean Princess feel free to hit this successful young educated proffesional who knows how to turn a fine dime piece like yourself out; you still look twenty...thats a fine piece of wine. Peace, Love, & Sexy Black Beauties for me thx...

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  22. Posted: 10 Aug 08

    Okay. I suppose I’ll go straight down. I’ll try to make this quick (I’m posting these together). SeanCarter, Judging from what CJ actually wrote, I don’t think that’s what he meant. “Men and women just simply connect with one another for what ever reason and who are we to judge!!!! No science needed!!!! God only knows why. Attraction is simply between the two individuals involved. Whether you or I like it, it is up to those individuals.᾿ That’s the key point, I suppose. At any rate, I never said that finding out how this stuff works is “simple.᾿ You’re not implying that “That’s just how it works! No science needed!᾿ is more complex than actually finding out how it works, are you? And, as far as I’m concerned, its complexity doesn’t matter. Who cares how complex it is? We just shouldn’t attempt to find the answers because they may be hard to find? Call me crazy, but I like finding the solutions to tricky problems. In science, it will always be A + B = C, A and B being the cause(s) and C being the effect(s). As for your attraction bit, sorry to burst your bubble but evolutionary biology has got a sound explanation for that. See, this is what I am talking about. You knowing *what* =/= you knowing *why* or *how*. As for it not being able to be duplicated, you’re wrong. If we test which chemicals were released to make you feel this way (which I suppose would be the same ones as everyone else), then we can ‘duplicate’ it. Am I saying it will be easy? Hell no. The brain is tricky enough as it is, but saying it’s impossible is crass. As for the outside influences bit---here’s the glory of it---they don’t matter! You know the situation itself is not important, but the person’s reaction it? Same thing here. The brain processes everything, and that’s all that needs to be tested. The outside circumstances are crucial to finding out their link to the brain’s reaction, obviously, but the brain itself is the focus. I think you’re confusing supernatural, paranormal. Emotions definitely are not beyond the scope of science (the basic definition of “supernatural᾿). Just because we don’t know everything about them doesn’t make them beyond anything. And don’t confuse “mysterious᾿ and “supernatural᾿ for “fascinating.᾿ I’m not saying it’s not interesting to the extreme. It’s just not “mysterious᾿ to the extreme. Emotions are some of the easier things to tackle. -RoChi Tatted2death, I was going to tell you that you should be happy if you’re “weird᾿ or whatever. What’s worse than being normal? What *is* normal? Fulfilling a stereotype? I say be who you are and be on the lookout. You’ll totally find someone. Have you considered match.com or eharmony.com or chemistry.com? I’ve never internet dated, but maybe it’s worth a try… As for spirituality, seeing as the very definition of “spiritual᾿ conflicts with science, I’d say they are somewhat in opposition. One can’t both believe spiritual concepts and scientific ones. Obviously EVERYTHING won’t conflict, but many things will. And there IS a war >.> At least with science vs. Christianity (can anybody say decent Sex Ed in school [as opposed to abstinence only]? Creationism being taught in science class instead of/in addition to common decent, masturbation is horrible, etc.?) Do you remember when The Golden Compass and The DaVinci Code came out? My God, how many Christians protested that? Personal beliefs aren’t really the problem (unless the beliefs are harmful and one acts on them), but when the beliefs become publicized and normalized (undertones in government law/schools/equally important settings), it’s a problem and a war. The president doesn’t think that atheists are/should be allowed to be Americans. Eck. He’s far from the only one who agrees with this, sadly. Religious conflicts are one of the main causes of the *majority* of modern wars, and probably ancient ones as well. As for what you ACTUALLY said, what are some philosophies you wish humanity to “unveil᾿ to itself? (Out of curiosity ^^) I agreed with that as well, but I don’t think all statistics should be regarded this way (not that you said they should). We have to believe SOME are good. I don’t care about statistics so much anyway. Very rarely do I stride to find them. For the record, I have a problem with misusing the power of statistics. I remember this one popular statistic that made it seem as though many parents were starving their kids. Firstly, it was a questionnaire, which is phail. Secondly, it was forced answer with crackpot answers, which is also phail. They basically concluded (just to phuck with the public/make a popular story) that parents were “starving᾿ their children because they wouldn’t buy Macaroni and Cheese every time their kid wanted it. About this “having heart᾿ business, from what knowledge are you postulating that most of these people do not have personal experience? And why does it matter? Do YOU need to have been raped to assess an average on how many people are raped in America? Personal experience has little to nothing to do with it. Or at least explain to me how personal experience will alter the results for the better. Bear in mind that personal experiences NEVER accounts for the whole because they are subjective. YOU experiencing something doesn’t mean you automatically KNOW something about someone else who has experienced the same thing. Does it help? I suppose it depends on what the issue is. Does a depressed person know off the bat that their Serotonin is probably out of wack simply because they are depressed? If I am schizophrenic, can I explain to another schizophrenic that Dopamine is a key factor *because* I am schizophrenic? Personal experience is not a factor of explaining what, how, or why. You preferring to “live your life᾿ is fine, but don’t assume that a scientist *can’t* “sum your life up᾿ (not that you said that). I guess I have to say this---nobody said it’s the easiest thing to do. I’m just saying that it basically can be done. I never suspected we were at odds. Call me a debater, lol. I like to find commonalities as well. Let’s just say that we can find MANY more looking on the inside (literally… not with the mind) than with just looking on the outside. Quite yummy XD I have a fairly high pain tolerance too… AND I ALSO FOUND IT PLEASURABLE! I thought I was just weird, haha! But I don’t think I can handle this traditional pounding the ink in with rocks, of which you are speaking. Meep. I think that might be too much for me… Do you like piercings too, or just tats? -RoChi

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  23.   yryrizaaol says:
    Posted: 09 Aug 08

    Why analyze something that feels good? Just enjoy it. Analyzing it kills the enjoyment.

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  24.   miccinelli1 says:
    Posted: 09 Aug 08

    I like the presence of color in the skin, texture in the hair, fullness in lips and a little somthing in the rear ... and of course a good personality to go with those attributes.

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  25. Posted: 06 Aug 08

    statistics "can be manipulated"........gawrsh I need more sleep.....lol

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  26. Posted: 06 Aug 08

    First all....to everyone....thanks for your kind words.....but let it be known that that actually was just a quote from one of my fave comtemporary authors (Hunter S. Thompson.....R.I.P.) that I always felt gave a little insight to how I feel about myself. I actually love being "weird" (meaning a bit different/"marching to the beat of my own drum"). But yeah, I really don't strive to be "weird/unique" when in comes to my views on the human soul and my love for nature and the creatures of this world. I truly hope that there are lots more that think the way I do when it comes to those sort of things.....*smilez* Anywho.....(to Legalease)personally, I don't think the worlds of science and spirituality are at odds either, but for some there is a perceived "war" (and as with all "wars" there is a lot of propaganda prepetuating it). And some don't think a true scientist could be a "holy" person or vice versa. My statement just addressed the desire to see the "veil" lifting and all of humanity experiencing some degree of enlightenment when it comes to various philosophies. (to Rochi)....I mostly agreed with Cousin Joe's acknowledgement that statistics can ( and most defintely ARE alot of the time) to suit certain agendas. I just have the outlook that most statistics are like the Bible (not disrespecting anyone's faith here) in a lot of ways. Yes, it can be looked upon as the "word of God"("fact") but it was written by MAN, therefore is subject to "creative adaptation"("fiction"). And if you (YOU, in the general sense of that word) blindly believe some parts of the Bible and don't allow yourself to think independently it will have you all twisted up (And NOT in a good way.....LOL). These polls and "scientific studies" that are conducted are sometimes overseen by people that have no REAL personal experience in the field that they are examining. THAT is where I have the problem. To me, personal experience is akin to "having heart"......having lived something before you speak on it. And very rarely will you find a "lab rat" with some true "heart" (they have known virtually nothing beyond the "lab"...think of Pinky and the Brain trying to "take over the world"..lol). This is just my take on it because I really prefer to actually live my life rather than have it summed up by a scientist that has never walked a day in my shoes. Now with that being said, I also must state that I am really speaking of extremes here..people that either don't think for themselves or are SO independent that they don't see/feel the "connection". I don't think you are either of those, ROCHI. But again that is my opinion and I don't expect that to carry much weight with you. I only address it to let it be known that I am not at odds with you (this "twisted chica" never has really thrived on conflict....lol). I guess, in life, I have pretty much always gotten a kick out of finding commonalities (not saying that I ignore differences....Those will ALWAYS be there). Ok....as for the tats....I think it needs to be said upfront that I have a sort of high threshold for pain and the inking process is actually sort of pleasurable for me; providing a "high" that really can't be described (hearing shouts of "Freak!!!!" are not uncommon). Told ya'll I was "weird"....LOL. Hail, even my artist looked at me like I was crazy for getting my VERY FIRST tat on my neck....LOL. ....but to answer the question, no, that one on my chest did not actually "hurt" for me. So if you also have a high threshold....GO FOR IT. ...and, HAIL YEAH, I want to get more. In fact I have been looking into "tapping" (where they go REAL ol' skool and basically use special "rocks" of various shapes to ink you up). And I have been designing tats for people for a long time but for some reason I can't seem to make up my mind on the next one I want..(probably either the "necklace" thing or an elaborate tribal for my back...maybe)...go figure....lol. Peace and Blessings to ALL tatted2death ("MUSIC is MY BOYFRIEND"....that luv will never die.)

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  27.   LegalEase says:
    Posted: 05 Aug 08

    YIKES!! I go away for a couple of days and all H3ll breaks loose. Now before anyone injects, infuses, dowloads, or in any other way integrates me with anything, I reserve the right to revist this issue in the future. For the record I do not think that spirituality and science are at odds but that is for another time. Right now I am trying to get caught up on some pressing issues so I will cut to the chase. Hi Cousin Joe: Yep, that's right, you know HE was going to be the first order of business, LOL! Despite RockerChick27's serious doubts about your gene pool, I would like to take her advise and use some scientific techiniques of my own to get to know you better. LOL!! What is that I hear in the distance, could it be the one and only Frank Sanatra? You got it baby, New York, New York!!! Remember this is the city that does not sleep :) As Billy Joel put it, you have to be in a New York State of Mind, so take your B12 vitamins and eat your Weaties. I have RSVP'd to the Jeter/Loving invitation and let them know I would be bringing a guest. They live in VA so I hope your Delorean can make it and I hope we are not broke by the time we get there. Talk to you later. LegalEase BTW, I hope your music collection includes some socca because this Afro-Carib child can grin' up wid de best uh dem. Also, Tatted2death, I do not think you are weird, I like your vibe, SeanCarter, I like your heart. One final note to all, I like this site because I believe it, at least for me, is unique in that I have not come across any other forum which is specifically designed to address this issue (BW/WM). Having said that, I do hope that we remember to respect one another in our opinions and responses. I have read many things which I do not agree with but I am respectful of the person's right to have and express them in an open forum. In your right to disagree PLEASE let us remember we have a responsibilty to be respectful in how we respond. Consider me officially off of my soapbox!! Have a great day everyone.

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  28. Posted: 04 Aug 08

    Tatted2death, You are allowed to agree with whatever you want, though I’m not what you agree with considering nearly everything he said is false, but whatever. As for me, I highly regard science simply because I refuse to be ignorant. This does not mean that I need to know all the questions and answers of the universe(s) or that I know everything. It just means that I wish to be as informed as I can be. As a child, I believed a lot of things simply because everybody said to, and I am still somewhat ashamed. I know that this is what children do---believe whatever, but knowing who I am now, I still have trouble stomaching the fact that I used to believe those things. Probably because virtually 100% of the rest of my known family still believes them, and I am still ridiculed for it. They are all just incorrect assumptions many people today still ignorantly hold to be true, and back with nothing but bull****. Maybe it also has something to do with me witnessing how they are and fearing becoming like them. That’s a BIG nono, lolz. I am not saying that I don’t try to think things out for myself, as some questions are not scientific and can only be approached philosophically (attraction is not one if them, unfortunately Dx). But I still don’t like to just think about things with nothing guiding me. Where does that get me? What’s the use of an opinion with absolutely nothing behind it but thought? It’s not like human thought has to coincide with logic and evidence. Proof of this is the obvious amount of ignorance in the world today. Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying that thinking on one’s own is not important, as many important questions and answers come about through this. However, I find no value in a thought that ultimately ends as a thought and progresses into nothing further. Well, besides its entertainment value, I suppose. Your tats sound way cool XD Do you plan on getting any more? Just so I know, how bad did the one on your chest hurt? I want to get one there as well, but I b feerin’ da payne… ^o^ As for me, I have two dragons; one on each arm. I know it’s cliché but I love love love dragons! They’re so awesome… I’d say that approximation holds true for the population in general, actually. You’ll find somebody! If not, you can always pull a Plankton on Spongebob… >.< As for you, Sean Carter, you didn’t clearly read my post because you’re saying things I never said and your points are way off base anyway. I am tired now but I will tackle your reply when I wake up. -RoChi

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  29. Posted: 04 Aug 08

    Tatted2death I definitely don't think you're weird sweetheart I always enjoy reading what you have to write and Rockerchick from what I was reading between you and cousin joe I think his point was more that science can't always assume the answers for what we are attracted to is such a simple thing. Like A+B will always equal C. Are we influenced by outside forces like societal pressure and media yes but I don't think we are robots incapable of finding what we as individuals really like. Like I do find the women on television and movies attractive but that does not mean anything other than I'd like to bang them period. Being with a girl for the long term comes from something so much deeper and I think at this point in human development we aren't at point to accurately say what makes you want to be with someone. Part of it is a little "supernatural" a little mysterious. I've been in love and nothing my previous history could have prepared me for that feeling, it was just the right time, right place, right person and its something that can't be simply duplicated as science would lead us to believe with certain actions. Cousin Joe that comment about if scientist found the cure for cancer would lead to a lot of them to the unemployment line is a little inaccurate. If someone found the cure for whats killing people world wide by the millions per year they would insanely rich, pharmacutical companies would love to bottle that stuff and sell it at astronomical prices. Saying that science is often inaccurate is a fair assessment but you make it sound like it doesn't serve as a great tool to understand our world and the design of the creator/God/ whatever you want to call it.

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  30. Posted: 04 Aug 08

    Well, Rochi.... Besides the fact that I agree with quite a few things that Cousin Joe wrote (I guess that means I'll get slapped HARD...W/ a FISH......LOL), I think we are still on good enough terms for me to divulge the requested info.....tee hee (curtsy laugh) Tat #1 on my chest (centered in the cleaveage) is a tribal abstract flame Tat #2 on the left side of my neck is a phoenix (again think more tribal) Tat #3 on back of neck is an abstract sort of like the one on my chest (have been thinking of linking them to create a "necklace" of sorts) Tat #4 on the outside of my right calf is a Metallica ninja star with flames coming up from it(yes, I like these guys......and respect their longevity in the biz, but more importantly their music helped get me through some rough spots in my life)....the effect with shading makes it come off looking more like some kind of mythic sword. Tat #5 on my left hand (between the thumb and index finger) is a mantra for love and compassion (Om Mani Padme Hum)in Tibetan script I look upon all my tats as being spiritually-based (i.e. would never get someone's name...lol).....And they help remind me that I have to stand firm to my convictions and continue to TRY and balance my thinking mind with my dreaming/feeling soul. Maybe that is just how I cope or whatever but it is me (in a way). I personally don't think either side (scientific vs spiritual) has it completely figured out but BOY would I love to have a front row seat when they truly forget all the infighting and come together....THAT would be a beautiful thing (considering there is more in common there than the surface let's on) I am single as a dollar bill but have dated quite a few men of various races (personality just has a way of effing things up sometimes....if those are not compatible you can just fuggeabouit). I guess I have joined this site/forum to just see what's out there; what makes people tick. I have been here (on and off) for a few years and there is one thing I have noticed....more than 50% (rough estimate there....lol) of the people on here either don't really know what they want or are afraid of it when it stares them in the face. So happily-single I'll stay until someone proves me wrong.) OR MAYBE I am just a "prototype, never even considered for mass production"..."too weird to live, too rare to die"....and will be one of those Anti-social, Loner People.....lol. Peace and Blessings to ALL tatted2death

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  31.   Jean says:
    Posted: 03 Aug 08

    Well, I'm a little mature but I have never had a problem attracting white males or talking with some them regarding politics, racism, and going out to dinner. I fine some white males are just handsome in their own right.

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  32. Posted: 03 Aug 08

    And, yes, that's the end of my rant and likely the last thing I'll have to say to Cousin_Joe, unless he'd like the answers to the three question, for which I'd be happy to respond. And I guess the coding system doesn't work. Bummer. And, Cousin_Joe, I apologize for my rudeness. Tatted2death, Righteous! I'm glad you like tats! What do you have and where (unless it's innapropriate o.O) You'd better become a regular player! Or I may have to hit you with a fish! I want your progress on Youtube! My mind is hazy with all of this, so forgive me if you already posted. What's your story? Do you have a hubby or a lover or something? HOw'd you guys meet? -RoChi

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  33. Posted: 03 Aug 08

    Oh. My. God. That was a joke, right? ...Right? RIGHT?! Congradulations, Cousin_Joe, on managing to say the most simple-minded, ignorant and childish thing on this thread yet. I'm not sure if it can be beaten. Attraction just happens? There's no REASON for it? Or, at least there's no reason for finding out how or why? Do you know what science IS? It is FINDING OUT how things happen. Why things happen. It is proven through scientific studies that INFANTS are able to comprehend that things happen for a reason (though not why, obviously), so you should be able to understand this. Every action has an equal or opposite reaction, indeed. Meaning that science can be a part of everything. And science's purpose isn't to JUDGE anything. If people knew how things ACTUALLY happened as opposed to spouting bull****, then the world would be better off. No, "Eww! Wite pplz cant b atractide 2 blk pplz! lololol thts innatureable!" or "Homosexualality iz a choeese/It b a sinnn! Sind dem pplz 2 h3ll! Bwahahaha!!" I don't even know where to start. This isn't a debate forum, so I am not entitled to kick your a** with your logic, but attraction does not just HAPPEN. Science tells us this. You know why? Because we have studied it. Through science. You know what we know? Males and females have different brains. In fact, males and females have almost different everything. Different bones, different skin, different hearts. You cannot seriously say that this does not affect attraction, right? Everythig you do and think revolves around your brain chemistry. Males and females' focus of attraction is very different because their brains are 'programmed' differently. Why not study this? It's so interesting. Oh, God. You're not serious. Different centers of the brain are activated during every activity, including attraction. If someone is attracted to someone else, we can find out through science. Same as love. (Not that we need to, but we can.) We will know. You know why? Different chemicals are released to ensure different emotions. Oxytocin, for example, is associated with love. If you believe that emotions, thoughts, or anything of the like are some obscure, mystical, supernatural force, then perhaps you should get better educated. EVERYTHING one does is because of their brain. Therefore, everything one does and experiences can be tested and explained. Can we explain everything right now? No. But because every cause has an effect, and because every effect has a cause, it can be studied and determined. We'll find the answrs eventually, but not through "Well, whatever!" Or, my personal fav, "God did it! End of story!!!" We have to be willing to search for the answers. Guess what, buddy. I never said that science is the REASON for attraction. I said that because people DON'T always know why they do things. You can't expect someone to give you the correct answer because they're them. Does everybody know WHY they get hungry or the systems involved, simply because they get hungry? Attraction cannot be "decided" by anyone, including you. If you like someone, you can't just "turn it off." Similarly to how you can't just "turn on" some attraction light bulb. Your body will react whether you want it to or not. For this reason, why not FIND OUT WHY?! HOW?! YOU do't have to. You don't even have to care about what we know or find. But let US do OUR jobs, and you can go piss in a sink, for all I care. As for the statistics bit, don't think I don't know this. Don't assume every statstic about America is from a project based in America. And I know this. That is precisely why one should check back to the source (not who did it, but how they did it). Do you assume these are worthless and incorrect? 1) All the "perfect body" adds are affecting little girl's perception of health and beauty. 2) Males are affected by the male body propaganda as well, just not as much as females. 3) Those who watch more than one hour of violent television a day tend to be more aggreesive. 4) Most Americans are overweight. 5) Most Americans need to learn more. How do you think these are known? Through guessing? I don't know. What you said is so ridiculous and childish that I MUST assume it is satire. If it is not, please don't embarass yourself further by admitting it. If so, then anyone who thinks like you ought to be slapped. Hard. Let me guess. You probably think these have no answers or are subjective: 1) Which came first? The chicken or the egg? 2) If a tree falls down in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? 3) If a red tomato is sitting on a table, but no one is around to see it, is it still red? Go ahead. Take a shot. They all have answers and we know them. This is why American public school systems = phail. These questions should be basic, yet people continue asking them like they are the most mystical questions ever. And, for humanity's sake, I hope LegalEase is injected with that. Until you get educated, your chance of producing offspring should be null. We don't need you infecting children with your nonsense. I'm not sure which is worse---advocating hate or advocating ignorance. Then again, hate stems from ignorance. Knowledge is key. -RoChi Does the coding system work on this website? Testing: [i]Italics[/i] [b]Bold[/b] [u]Underline[/u] [url=/fyooz/why-white-men-love-the-black-woman.htm]Link[/url]

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  34.   Cousin_Joe says:
    Posted: 02 Aug 08

    Hello LegalEase, Thanks for the belated Happy Birthday. I have been circumventing the establishment my whole life. I am not now nor have I have ever been good at following the throng or any form of rules. LOL When the rest of the world zig’s I zag, and when they zag I zig… LOL… Looks like after I finish my profile I may have to pay my pittance to Caesar. To get your figures, ;-) what a small price to pay!!!! LOL!!!!! As for sexual harassment experiences in the workforce goes and considering I work with all men, I have none. If by some long shot one of my co-workers makes a pass at me, we’ll have ourselves a situation… Lol… Let me get one thing clear no matter how much alcohol I consume, my co-workers will NEVER look better at the end of the night then they did at the beginning of the night!!!!!!! LOL Trust Me on that!!!!! LOL Okay, the Delorean is running, waxed, and ready to go! As I sit back ready to accelerate who comes across the radio but Frank Sinatra, singing New York, New York, what are the odds? And can you believe Frank accommodated the lyrics to fit us by starting with “Start spreading the news, I'm leaving today, I want to wake up with LegalEase….᾿ You gotta love Frank. í¿Š Well, LegalEase we have had slight change in plans, I just received my invitation to Mildred Delores Jeter and Richard Perry Loving’s wedding to be performed on June 2, 1958. A camera is a necessity, as this wedding will eventually make history, and don’t forget your dancing shoes, you and I are going to get busy!!! And what ever you believe, don’t let my spectacles deceive you, whether it is Jerry Lee Lewis’s, “Whole Lotta Shakin Going On᾿… to Chaka Khan,… to Juvenile’s “Back That Azz Up᾿, this 6’, 190 lb white boy can get his grove on, and has been known to tear the tiles off the floor!!!!!......LOL!!!!!! So LegalEase you ready to “Back that Azz up?᾿ :-0 Cousin Joee

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  35.   Cousin_Joe says:
    Posted: 02 Aug 08

    Rochi, Scientific? You believe science is the reasoning’s for the attraction between men and women? Nothing could be further from the truth. That is one of the most obscured statement I have yet read on this forum. Rochi, you stated the following: "I am not so interested in questions geared at people who do not necessarily know (from a scientific standpoint), but it’s nice to hear what they have to say, whatever it is." What ever you smoking please pass the pipe! Men and women just simply connect with one another for what ever reason and who are we to judge!!!! No science needed!!!! God only knows why. Attraction is simply between the two individuals involved. Whether you or I like it, it is up to those individuals. Have you ever observed people at a public event and wonder what makes one person attracted to the other. If the attraction is there they will know it, NOT science!!! Last thing I want is a resurrection of Sigmund Freud analyzing my behavior on what draws my attraction to the womanly features. Whether it is Asian, black, white or any other feasible concoction it will be for me to decide, not some mad scientist! If there is any question, just look into the eyes, the eyes will tell all!!!!! Are you further talking about the same science and scientist who that can’t forecast yesterday’s weather, or how about the ones who pilfer BILLIONS of dollars every year for the research of cancer, yet still can’t find a cure? What a joke that industry is, more money is spent on the cure, research, treatment then any point of time yet more people fall ill to that disease today then any other time in history. Sadly our so called scientists finding a cure will displace them onto the unemployment line. And you want science to get involved on my lust for my soul mate? With all respect keep that to yourself, the last initiative I want to see is having some mad scientist and his alter ego believing he can stage-manage my feelings. Please, before some aberrant quack begins injecting LegalEase with a number of Anti-Cousin-Joe vaccines causing LegalEase to break out with the hives when she approaches me, ultimately causing me to inject myself with an antidote before LegalEase and I enter into lip-lock extravaganza, let us decide for ourselves!!!! Pucker up LegalEase here I come rash and all!!!! LOL CousinJoee

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  36.   Cousin_Joe says:
    Posted: 02 Aug 08

    To Rayyan007 and Rochi, I completely agree with Tatted2death on this. Any and all statistics can be altered to achieve the special interest and/or PAC group’s agendas. As I scrolled through them I could easily distort and manipulate them to get the results I would need to achieve my agenda. Look where the results allegedly came from, the United States Government via Wikipedia. Look at the source of those statics. They come from our government who has an appetite for misleading the public to achieve the maximum intimidation money can buy. They first threaten us with statistics that crime is on the rise and to combat that we need to enlarge the police forces across America On all Lines. Although they increase the number of law enforcement officer’s crime doesn’t go down. We have more cops on the street today then any other time in history, yet crime is higher then it has ever been. The increases of police officers are statistics used to calculate a false sense of security. In general police officers have become revenue enhancing officers (tax collectors). Don’t even get me going there!!!!! Lets not forget the government telling us statistically that this past summer the tomatoes where causing the salmonella epidemic, which the tomato farmer paid hundreds of millions of dollar in lost revenue. OOOPS we’re sorry it was the Jalapeño peppers causing the outbreak, well maybe not, well we have no clue, but we are willing to destroy another industry. I love my country but distrust my government and it’s entire corrupt agenda!!!!! Besides all the statistics you provided don’t coincide with the alleged divorce statistics. Who stats are correct? Whose agenda are they following? Albeit with all those statistics they still don’t provide any information on why I am attracted to certain women. CousinJoee

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  37.   rayyan007 says:
    Posted: 31 Jul 08

    To seancarter03 My observations are not rantings as you call them.They are not unsubstaniated remarks.. To make my point clearer,I'll provide you with the "facts" , "Numbers" , and "Stats" that support my argument.Sorry to disappoint you,but YOUR allegations are FALSE,not mine..I've done my homework.. Concerning Unemployment in the USA,you can read the following quote from the Bureau of Labour Statistics and Judge by yourself..(These figures are for June 2008).. "The unemployment rate for HISPANICS (7.7 percent) increased over the month, while the rate for adult men (5.1 percent) continued to trend up. Jobless rates for adult women (4.7 percent), teenagers (18.1 percent), WHITES (4.9 percent), and BLACKS (9.2 percent) showed little or no change in June. The unemployment rate for ASIANS was 4.5 percent, not seasonally adjusted." So,Hispanics have HIGHER Unemployment rates than Whites and Asians have lower Unemployment rates than Whites..Blacks have the highest rate among ALL RACIAL GROUPS.. Source:Bureau of Labour Statistics http://www.bls.gov/cps/ http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf As for Average Personal income in the United States,it goes as follows: ASIAN: $57,518 NON HISPANIC WHITE: $48,977 HISPANIC: $34,241 BLACK: $30,134 Source:SOURCE: US Census Bureau, 2006; income statistics for the year 2005 To enertain yourself more check out the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States As for Statistics on Marriage, Divorce, and Living Arrangements,take a look at the following figures: On the whole, Blacks or African Americans (hereafter called Blacks) have lower rates of marriage and marital stability than all other ethnic groups. They also have higher rates of single-headed families than other groups. * Black males and females are more likely to be unmarried than Whites, Hispanics, or American Indian/Alaskan Natives (AIAN) (42.2% for males, 40.8% for females, compared to 27.5% and 21.2% respectively for Whites, 38.2% and 30.3% for Hispanics, and 35.7% ad 29.9% for AIAN ).(ACS 2002) * Black individuals are far more likely than Whites and Hispanics to be divorced (in 2002, 9.4% of Black males were divorced, and 13.3% of Black females versus 9.1 % and 11.3% respectively for Whites and 5.9% and 9.3% for Hispanics). (ACS 2002) * Among married Black individuals, a greater percentage is living apart from their spouses than among married White and AIAN individuals (15.7% for Black males, 24.1% for Black females, versus 5.3% and 6.3% respectively for Whites and 11.1% and 12.8% for AIAN). Only Hispanics have a higher rate of living apart from their spouse than do Blacks – 16.2% for males and 16.9% for females (in many cases this may be due to immigration complications). (ACS 2002) * Black families are less likely to contain a married couple than all other groups (46.0% versus 81.0%). White families have an 81% chance of containing a married couple, AIAN families have a 67% chance, and Hispanics have a 67.4% chance. (Census 2000) * Single male-headed families are slightly more likely in Black homes than in White family homes (about 8.5% versus 5.3% for whites.). Hispanics and AIANs have a higher rate of single male headed families (10.3% and 10.4% respectively). (Census 2000) * Single female-headed families are far more likely in Black homes than in all other groups' homes (45.4% versus 13.7%). By contrast, Whites have a 13.7% rate, AIANs have a 28.8% rate, and Hispanics have a 22.3% rate of single female headed families. (Census 2000) * Only 44.9% of Black householders in family households live with a spouse. This compares with 80.6% for Whites, 60.1% for AIAN, and 70.2% for Hispanics. (Census 2000) Marriage, Divorce, Childbirth, and Living Arrangements among African American or Black Populations (Source, Census 2000, http://www.census.gov/population/cen2000/atlas/censr01-106.pdf) Finally,have a nice day...

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  38. Posted: 31 Jul 08

    Rochi, Rhetoric aside, what it boils down to is numbers help you and that is cool. They neither help nor hinder me so I am definitely moving on from the whole subject. The things I wrote in that (4th) paragraph I really didn't expect to be fully understood by everyone but hey..... I still am cool with ya for being a A Different World watcher.....that was one of my fave shows back in the day. As for the "axe"....I actually dusted that thing off today....I don't know....I guess I am just afraid of getting those callouses (sp) back like I had when I practiced everyday. Anywho.....Peace and Blessings to ALL tatted2death (yes, that refers to the fact I enjoy the "inking" process...lol)

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  39. Posted: 30 Jul 08

    LegalEase, Why not find the reason? Every effect has a cause; every action has an equal or opposite reaction. Why not expand our knowledge and figure out what it is? I am not so interested in questions geared at people who do not necessarily know (from a scientific standpoint), but it's nice to hear what they have to say, whatever it is. I love learning about the differences between males and females concerning sex and attraction and many things. -RoChi

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  40. Posted: 30 Jul 08

    tatted2death (does that mean tattoos?), I never said or implied that science provides us with all the answers right now. Even so, that doesn’t mean that we cannot look for the answers. There is an answer to every reasonable question. The key is whether or not we have the patience or interest to find it. I ascribe to this way of thinking: "You need questions; forget about the answers.᾿ (A line from a song called “Nobody Number One᾿ by Over the Rhine.) As I quoted earlier, I also believe this: “We must not believe the many, who say that only free people ought to be educated, but we should rather believe the philosophers who say that only the educated are free.᾿ --Epictetus There comes power with knowledge, and to me, knowing something is the best feeling. I think that another thing learned is another opportunity to make an impact on the world, positive or negative. Although I may not have an excessive amount of questions, I love finding answers. My questions may be few, but they will never be none. I am proud of that =) See! Thinking about learning makes me all excited! Relate, relax, release. A Different World? I’d rather people seek the number rather than hiding behind their own ignorance and not even considering the numbers because they don’t like them. I think numbers help, actually. It helps put things into perspective. Hiding behind them? I think more people are hiding behind the fact that they’re scared of what the numbers may be. I don’t understand what you mean in the fourth paragraph. They translate to the same thing in my book. I do understand, however, that the comment was directed at the hate in the blog. It still means the same to me, but maybe I am running in the wrong direction with it. It’s not really important, anyway. And you need to learn how to play it and fast! You can’t let something as precious as an electric guitar sit there unused! That’s… criminal! -RoChi

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  41.   LegalEase says:
    Posted: 30 Jul 08

    Hi Cousin_Joe: I see from what you completed about your profile you are a Cancer and have either recently or will celebrate a birthday. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! My birthday is coming up, so thank you. As for the Communist/Where Is Waldo Plot, let the games begin!!! LOL!!! I guess we will have to put our creativity to the test so that we may circumvent the "establishment", LOL. I am not sure if they will notice the slow moving Delorean moving down this cyber highway for at least 50 miles, with someone pushing, I say, To the gas pumps! LOL!! Regarding sexual harrassment. I have been approached by men in the workplace and have had varied responses. Men who have approached with respect and integrity, have received favorable responses. Men who act lewd and lacivious have not received favorable responses. I think it is a matter of how you are approached. I have never had to go to HR but I know women who have. It is a topic we can discuss more later. I hope you have a good day and I look seeing the Delorean pull up. LOL!! LegalEase

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  42.   Cousin_Joe says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 08

    Hello Ms. Legalease, I did post my email address which was posted up until a few hours ago, I am guessing the Legal-Ease (no pun intended, lol) of this blog picked up on in and removed it, I tried, lol. I suspect it is part of a Communist plot to keep us separated. :-) This could turn out to be a where is Waldo campaign. So now the cat and mouse came for us has begun. Tag, your it. I’m off to polish up my Delorean, you ready for a ride? Due to the price of gas we might only be able to travel back 50 years, you might have to push the last 50 miles, but what a ride it will be. lol Legalease, considering you’re a Leo, either a belated Happy Birthday or a premature Happy Birthday. Being new and unfamiliar with this web-site, and considering the web-master won’t let me respond to emails without completing my profile, I will be on a quest to complete it, with in the next day or two. By the looks of this web site I can respond to I have to complete my profile to send I just became aware I need to complete my profile to respond to email As far as being equals in the work place, it is due to the dismay that Big Brother brings with sexual harassment charges, is why we walk on egg shells, no wonder we are apprehensive on approaching a co-worker. If we, as men, attempt to spark up a conversation we are considered pigs and want only one thing. If we keep to ourselves we are considered gay. I am not in anyway advocating any variety of harassment, but the political correct error is causing havoc on our day to day relationships. That is my opinion and thoughts from my own meandering experiences. Hope everyone has a good day. Cousin Joe

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  43.   LegalEase says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 08

    Hi Cousin Joe: It is good to hear from you. I work near Times Square. I am not much of a gambler, but you do not look like the killer, so here goes. LOL!!! It is funny, I often wondered what happened to "good old fashioned romance?" What happened to courting? I think we misunderstand the concept that being equals in the work place does not take place of common courtesy or bringing our humanity with us through the door. So, if you are willing to travel back 100 years and use old fashioned charm on me, then I think I am open minded enough to take the journey with you. LOL!! I do not think you can leave your personal email addressed here so we can find a way to communicate through these emails. I hope you have a wonderful day and looking forward to hearing from you again.

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  44. Posted: 29 Jul 08

    Simple man thanks.It was a late night when I wrote that. God bless.

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  45.   Uruguy says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 08

    A remote point of view Hi, ebony girls out there. I'm from Uruguay, South America. We are most descendants from spanyards and italians and I think we're lacking black girls. You're welcome to visit us whenever you want to. That's all I have to say right now. By the way, some of you look hot!

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  46.   Cousin_Joe says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 08

    To Legalease, Per your request, I am now checking in. ;-) NYC is not far from where I live. In fact I went on a day trip to Time Square in November. You proffering yourself to allow me to whetting up on my skills sounds enticing. I trust you know what you’re getting yourself into. Lol. You never know unless you take a gamble. I am not sure if you can furnish emails here. Hope to talk to you more there. Legalease, it is nice to know there are women in this world who enjoy being treated like a lady. When I open the car door, pull out the chair or attempt to hold hands, the girls look at me like as if this is incongruous behavior. Whatever happened to girls being girls and boys being boys? I swear I was born one hundred years to late. Lol. It is the main stream media who continually feeds the racist propaganda to the masses. Unfortunately when the general public retrieves the majority of their news in this fashion it will take blogs like this to begin to breakdown that line of thinking. So, to the BW, yes WM do find you attractive! Cousin Joe

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  47.   Cousin_Joe says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 08

    To RR, Thanks for the compliments.

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  48.   Member says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 08

    Note to SeanCarter03.... a double negative such as "poorly unsupported" is a positive in this case "well supported". Have a good day. Just being helpful.

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  49.   Member says:
    Posted: 29 Jul 08

    Ladies, For me it is real simple. My beautiful wife (who happens to be African American) just loves me with an intensity I have never known. I love her with all my being and I have no doubts about her love for me. Simple Man

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  50.   Legalease says:
    Posted: 28 Jul 08

    Hey SeanCarter: Thanks for the tip. I would be interested in exploring this topic more. Do you still have the paper? Do you remember the statistical sites you used to get the paper done. I did not know the census bureau kept information more than raw statistics but not explanations regarding why people marry whom they do. In any event, I would love to explore this topic with more sepcificity than some of the rhetoric I have seen on this site. No offense to anyone but some of the stuff that people come up with for explanations as to why WM are attracted to BW are crazy. LOL!!! Anyway, holla at me again so I can get some of that information from you. Be Blessed!

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