Why white men love the black woman
Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?
It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.
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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.
However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.
So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?
Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.
Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.
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Member says:Posted: 13 Jul 08
Please everyone, Let's show each other a little bit more respect. All of this cussing each other out really isn't necessary. I know a few comments might have cause this ripple effect. But it was a opinion....Maybe not the kind that you would have agree with. But a opinion. We can't control the mouth or the thoughts of others. All we should be able to do is laugh it off and move on. Don't let it get so deep with you, that you loose your perceptibility on what this Blog is really about.
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geneandthem says:Posted: 12 Jul 08LOL!!! Come on RoChi you read them stop lying! Skimmed my A$$ after that message! With your I might of been born yesterday but I stayed up all night looking A$$!!!!! lol! It would be great to sit and drink with you all night! There would be a lot of deep convo but it would probably end in a fist fight, but it would be memorable! But anyways,,,,, go date your white boys and then go home and analyze it, put a bunch of statistics to it and dwell on it! Oh and worry about all the crap!! Ill be here at home with my beautiful black queen in love not giving a F@#$ about what anyone thinks! Hell we might even rub some wet chicken on each other!!!!! LOL!!!!!
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seancarter03 says:Posted: 12 Jul 08I just wanted to join in this interesting topic. I myself am a 27 year old black man from New York, well educated, cultured, and motivated. I can say that I personally love black women, I am not usually attracted to them even though I do find them attractive. I for the most part pick people who I have common interest with and that more often than not seems to be white girls. Growing up in my area I wish there were more girls like RockerChic who didn't assimilate into the stereotypical behaviors of what black women were suppose to act like. What I find interesting is that the same things that I see a lot of the attributes you praise white men for,(being polite, cultured, open minded, gracious, and outwardly loving) are things I've seen a lot of black men criticized for. Its like if we don't have a boastful attitude or don't listen to just hip hop we aren't "acting" black. I can't tell you how many times I've been asked by other black people( mainly women) if I actually loved myself, how could I only date white women. As I read this blog I guess its for the same reason a lot of black women date white men. The things that we aren't appreciated for in "our race" are the things people of other races love about us. I just wonder why is it so hard to appreciate the things that just make us who we are. The double standards we impose on ourselves are amazing, white people date outside of their race they are just testing the waters, we do it we are self hating, white people who listen to different music and enjoy different foods and clothing styles are called cultured, when we do it we are trying to act white. I guess these are the bumps on the road to true unity of all people but its so fascinating that in this day of constant scientific and ideological breakthroughs we can't seem to get pass something as insignificant as skin tone. Peace and Love Enjoy your weekend guys
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RockerChick27 says:Posted: 12 Jul 08Poetlove, first let me say that I love you XD You are a person who can understand a differing opinion and respect it too! I want to hug you XD Also, I never said that *all* white people smell like wet chicken or even a significant amount. Please reread that part. -RoChi
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RockerChick27 says:Posted: 12 Jul 08
Geneandthem, Your post is ridiculous. Please don’t fuck with me, and stop acting like you own the damn thread. I don’t need your permission to respond to a comment you posted on a public website. If you can’t handle the prospect of getting your comments replied to, then stop posting them. You are so full of shit, geneandthem. Firstly, I didn’t post any assumptions about you. I said that you were critiquing someone’s spelling in a response that held many more errors. I told you to cool it because you were making yourself look like a prepubescent idiot, much like you are making yourself look now. Act however you want, but don’t shit about someone calling you out on it. And it isn’t smart to tell someone to not make assumptions and make them yourself. I read every post before I posted mine (and it took two days). I read all of your 37 page-long posts. Well, I skimmed them, mostly. You take so damn long to say anything. If you’d cut out all of the unneeded bullshit, your posts would probably be less than a paragraph long and much less of a headache. Take the time to realize that your bitchfests aren’t answering the question, either. I realize that you answered it before, but that was before. Your little rampages are contributing nothing to the discussion, so stop shitting over everyone else’s posts. And you know what? Nobody has to run their posts by you for your fucking approval, so you can stop acting like you’re in charge. Do me a favor and read the tags the author selected for this article and bitch to me again about how exclusive this article is. Then, actually read the article. With some fucking sense, you'll be able to conclude that it is not frowning upon comments of black woman toward white men. You disliking statistics and facts doesn’t make them false. Stop acting like a child. You crying about them doesn’t prove them incorrect. You bitching about them doesn’t prove them incorrect. If you truly want a stance, show me a recent (respectable) study with significantly different percentages. At any rate, I said I was responding to Caribprinces' post and giving a possible reason why. I am having trouble grasping why you assume I posted the stats to be mean and out of apparent randomness, unless I am a victim of extreme selective reading. (This is obvious though ^^) I never said I give a flying shit about it. In fact, I said that I can’t smell it. And I am very familiar with the way smell works. I can give you the scientific breakdown, if you wish. Your comprehension is astounding. I never said it was how their bodies smelled naturally (or not implied in the connotative light). I never said anyone said a whole race smells like anything. If I smell something and think it smells like a frog, then it’s not being mean. It’s just a smell my brain is relating to another. Read: “A lot of people seem to describe A LOT OF white people as…᾿ How is that generalizing the race as a whole? If a lot of people in a particular group can be related to X, then how is it incorrect to assert that a lot of people in that particular group relate to X? You honestly don’t understand what I was saying? It isn’t complicated. And you bring hypocrisy to the max. You said that you only date one race, and so did she. So how is what she said any worse? If I were to choose, I would say you’re far worse. The only thing I question of her response is the money, which can still be reasoned with. Maybe she makes that much and wants her husband to as well. Maybe she likes the idea of someone who can support a family. Women are hardwired to be concerned about how well their mate can provide for them and possible children. At any rate, YOU can’t seem to realize that YOU are putting yourself on a pedestal and spitting on the ground she walks on when she is doing the same thing as you. What is so repugnant in her post? What is wrong with being attracted to who you are attracted to? What is wrong with desiring who you desire? People can’t “choose᾿ what they want. People can’t “choose᾿ who they’re attracted to. It is definitely influenced, but it is not chosen. In fact, isn’t that why interracial dating is frowned upon? Because so many people don’t have the fucking decency to stop bitching over things they can’t control? If you’re white, and you want to date a black person, it’s so goddamn wrong. If you’re white and you want to date a white person, it’s so goddamn wrong. Whoever you are, if you want to date, it’s such a fucking sin because people like you, geneandthem, can’t get off your fucking high horse long enough to realize that it doesn’t matter. Your uneducated and selfish opinions just don’t matter. She doesn’t have to have YOUR approval for what she wants. Nobody needs anyone’s approval, especially not yours. It’s none of your fucking business. We should be able to post what they want on this website without being railroaded by people like you. Regarding the rock situation, please reread my post. You’re fucking with what I said. I am assuming that you are going to have nothing intelligent to say to me, as you haven’t thus far, so don't be surprised if I don't respond back. Once again, I skimmed your response because it is filled with so much bullshit, I didn’t feel like reading the whole thing. -RoChi
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poetlove says:Posted: 12 Jul 08Oh yeah y'all was kinda rough on bheard also. Just like some love interracial dating some don't and she got ambushed on here for stating her opinion. That's what blogging is, respectfully stating your opinion. I respect people here because you could sit at home stew about these things but atleast we speak here. Sometimes not that respectfully(there's always gonna be some). If any sistahs here would like to help with an actual documentary on this email me at s8forlife@gmail.com. You're comments and thoughts could really help. Like I said i'm not against and certainly not for. I just would love to weigh the pros and cons of black women/white men. There's always black men/ww thrown in our faces. It's kind of a lopsided issue, and puts black men in an unfair position. I can ask a sister why she does it and she 'll quickly throw out there that y'all do it so why can't we. I just want to get an understanding of this and what normally leads to it. I know i'm gonna get it but please no weird, sexually suggestive or hate mail. I'm just a God loving man wanting to examine a certain thing that society won't really talk about except a movie here and there. If you want to give some insight in a tasteful way, get in contact and we'll be definitely glad to take your concerns/testimonies.
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poetlove says:Posted: 12 Jul 08Wet chicken wow, like I previously said I'm not down for the interracial dating thing. But I wouldn't say all white people smell funny. That's ike saying all black folk look alike. I came to this site cause I'm an avid blogger and i'm intrigued on interracial dating. I personally love my sisiters, but I like to see why others make that decision. I personally yes do get a little discomfort from seeing sisters dating outside their race. I state also I'm not God so I can't judge anyone, and if you're happy with your decision my or nobody else opinion should matter. I just personally again love what I came from black women. As far as the rockerchick thing goes yes that is originated from black people just like ragtime, jazz, the game of chess and the alphabet. I also have a deep fondness for black women in the rocker genre just because they are bringing it back to it's core, even if most that do it normally date white men. Yes the ghetto's in Brazil and Haiti are really really rough, that just sticks out to me cause I've researched those places thoroughly. I just wanted to stick my twocents in everybody be easy so it won't be a long day Al "Enigma poetry" W P.S where's rr, :)
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geneandthem says:Posted: 12 Jul 08RockerChick27 So first off! I didn't say anything to you nor did I respond to your post! Secondly don't tell me S@$&, Not to cool it, or nothing else for that matter! I only date one race also, so what ever you thought or assumed about me you are way off! Why don't you start at the very top of this blog and read before you open your F#%$@%# mouth! Read my other post! This blog is "Why white men love the black woman" Your not a white man nor are you talking about why we "WHITE MEN" Love the black woman! With your PERCENTAGES? Where the hell is it that you get these percentages? I would love to see the panel of people taking these poles and how affiliated they are! Are you just reading some crap that you read on the web and posting thinking it is true! "But to answer the question at hand, I simply am attracted to white guys" What question????? WHERE IS THAT QUESTION IN THIS BLOG!!! Once again the title is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"Why white men love the black woman" So unless your some transvestite bump that S%$# on down the street some place! Your problem is that you are so caught up in society and percentages and all this crap your talking about you are forgetting the whole reason why we are all here! INTERRACIAL DATING!!!! Not breaking it down, and putting percentages on crap! "but where we think we'll find them is a matter of life fucking our perceptions." Didn't understand your point here? "matter of life fucking our perceptions" UMM NOT SURE!!! And that CRAP b heard wrote was sickening! And here you go with the whole smells crap! A PERSON OR OBJECT OR ANYTHING SMELLS FOR NO GODLY REASON YOU F#%$^%$ RETARD!!!!!! Your a Black woman, if you rub coco butter all over your body you will smell like coco butter!!! If you rub Chicken all over your body you will smell like chicken! If you rub S$%# all over your body you will smell like S%$#! If you don't shower for a week you will smell like you haven't showered for a week!!!!!! Saying that a particular race smells a different way is STUPID a dog smells like a dog that is unless it is pampered and taken care of frequently!!! You are a sick joke! Half of these people in here date interracially just as a fad! For some thing to post crap and break something down about! When you truly love Interracially you don't give a flying F#$% about all this S%$# your talking about! It just doesn't matter any more what people think or what percentage of race dates another race! THAT CRAP IS NON-EXISTENT IN THE MIND OR A TRUE INTERRACIAL DATER!!!!! And the guys that smell like to much cologne Means there young, or never had a father figure to tell them to turn it down a little woman don't like that! Or you just really date some tasteless men! I poured cologne all over me when i was a CHILD! I am grown now!!! Any one who doesn't take care of them selves can start to smell! I have been all over I have lived in a few different countries! BLACK PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT IN EVERY CULTURE!!!!!! You talk about the American ghetto thing! Yeah it is like that here but I would love for you to see the Ghettos in Brazil, or Haiti, Or Colombia, or Venezuela! It is different every where! All people are different! All people have different smells! If you smell a white person that smells like a wet chicken I can guarantee that there is a black person that smells the same! Some people from Thailand and India smell like curry! That is because they it a ton of curry! But any body that lives there white, black purple or green will smell that way if they eat curry all the time! Your silly and you sound naive! You even talk about the whole Heavy metal thing like Rock isn't black! Like its different because you do it???? Black folk made rock in roll! Every one knows it! But only idiots think certain races of people smell like wet chicken!
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poetlove says:Posted: 12 Jul 08yes they pulled rr's hideous and self hatred comments
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RockerChick27 says:Posted: 11 Jul 08
A few things to say: @ tatted2death, haha thanks. I prefer to be enlightened. And, no, you definitely are not the only black woman who can rock an electric guitar! @ geneandthem, you totally need to cool it. It is not racist to be attracted to only one type. This is aimed at tatted2death as well, but is a black woman who only dates black men any more accepting than a black woman who only dates white men? Or any combo? We're all the same, truthfully. We are all looking for the same kinds of things, but where we think we'll find them is a matter of life fucking our perceptions. Back@geneandthem, I hope you realize that, whilst harshly criticizing B Heard about her spelling and grammar, YOU made a lot more mistakes than she did. I also will add that lots of people find certain 'smells' within races. A lot of people seem to describe a lot of white people as a "wet chicken" smell. I personally don't smell it (then again, I've never sniffed a wet chicken). But... every boy I know wears so much cologne, I can't breathe anyway. And BIG MAMA has a good point. If the man works to provide for the family, then I certainly won't care what he smells like--so long as the smell washes off in the shower! LOL! -RoChi
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geneandthem says:Posted: 11 Jul 08Sorry guys I think they pulled it before I got to see it! I do not see any comments by a RR? I'm scared to even ask!
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LegalEase says:Posted: 11 Jul 08YIKES RR: Thanks for sharing but that was extreemely harsh. It is fine to like who/what you like but you do not have to denegrade anyone else in the process. How do you feel when Afro-men say those cruel and demeaning things about us? Since God made us all, there is beauty in each of us, so let's stay positive and encouraging on this site.
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tatted2death says:Posted: 11 Jul 08Where the hail is Ashley when you need him......lol.
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woman2 says:Posted: 11 Jul 08To rr: That was a loveless and shallow comment.
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rr says:Posted: 10 Jul 08
And to Dennis, you are a fine white brotha, you'll find the right blackwoman, just wait and see..
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woman2 says:Posted: 08 Jul 08What the world needs now is love sweet love. It's the only thing that there's just too little of.... The white man and the black woman together ruffle many feathers on many sides. I know that slavery in America has a great deal to do with it. What about pre-slavery? What about Moses marrying an ethiopian. His sister wasn't too happy about that and look what happened to her! Without love, it is nothing....none of it....I would hate to think that I gave up love because of the color of skin. It would be just like the Creator to send such a test of faith.
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Member says:Posted: 07 Jul 08
B Heard, I read your blog that you posted, and I found it to be rather interesting. As a matter of fact, i considered it to be just a matter of opinion. But when you start talking about White Men having a scent. Now you're out of line. Odor is odor. no matter who's ass it comes from. And i know what you're getting at.........Honey. you need to squash that. That whole WET DOG crap is not but a myth. A racist one at that. But since you went there. Let me take it a little further. I think if a White Man, get up and work from 8 to 5 and put in some over time, to take care of his family. Bust his hump to make ends meat. And manage (unlike some people) to stay ofF AMERICA'S MOST WANTED. And still able to make that car note on time. He can come home smelling any damn way he want. I'm not afraid to break out the Air Wick. And have his bath water nice and hot. While making out my store list at the same time. Hey! geneandthem, how you like MY spelling!.....LOL
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Member says:Posted: 07 Jul 08
B Heard, I read your blog that you posted, and I found it to be rather interesting. As a matter of fact, i considered it to be just a matter of opinion. But when you start talking about White Men having a scent. Now you're out of line. Oder is oder. no matter who's ass it comes from. And i know what you're getting at.........Honey. you need to squash that. That whole WET DOG crap is not but a myth. A racist one at that. But since you went there. Let me take it a little further. I think if a White Man, get up and work from 8 to 5 and put in some over time, to take care of his family. Bust his hump to make ends meat. And manage (unlike some people) to stay ofF AMERICA'S MOST WANTED. And still able to make that car note on time. He can come home smelling any damn way he want. I'm not afraid to break out the Air Wick. And have his bath water nice and hot. While making out my store list at the same time. Hey! geneandthem, how you like MY spelling!.....LOL
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tatted2death says:Posted: 06 Jul 08OK Ashley now.....breathe....slowly....lol I see what you mean (yet once again).....you know they are sent here just to try and torment the TRULY open-minded ones like ourselves so let's just not waste our lovely keystrokes on them.....LMAO.
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geneandthem says:Posted: 06 Jul 08B Heard, Are you ok? Did you hit your head, Or are you a smoker? You sound racist, Young, and seriously uneducated! Why you would be in a interracial blog is Beyond me? "they have a sent and its not a good one." Ok your first problem here is the SENT that you used is to SEND something like a letter! The CENT that you meant has to do with smell and it is spelled SCENT! DO you know how stupid and ridicules that makes you seem and look to every one here! And my biggest issue with you is this! THE NAME OF THIS BLOG IS """"Why white men love the black woman""""" Your a black woman and you only date black men? Why would you be posting random feelings about how you feel in a blog that has nothing to do with what you are talking about? Also SPELL CHECK YOUR WRITING!!!!!! If you are going to be a idiot in your post at least you can help your image a little by making your post a little more legible! IDIOT!!!!!!
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Member says:Posted: 05 Jul 08
If thats your cup of tea go for it. Myself I love nothing more then a Beutiful Black Man. Iam not attacted to the white man never have never will. For one if thier not sporting muscle they don't look like nothing to me and thats my thought. Second they have a sent and its not a good one. Third my dad is a Black man and I would never date one especially a broke one, If he's not making six fingures its a waste of time. Am A Beautiful Black Woman And I Have A Beautiful Black Man. I wouldn't choose to be any othe Race But Black. Black Don't Crack And Thats How I like It.
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mick60a says:Posted: 02 Jul 08What I look for in a woman, regaarless of race, etc. is simple. I aly who has a good sense of humor, beauty inside and out. They inside beauty always shines through. Inner strength too , a woman who wil not let anyyone step all over here but yet can be tender at the right moments It has to sort of clikck with me Simple and easy :D
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tatted2death says:Posted: 27 Jun 08Thanks for the acknowledgement, Ashley.... Yes, I have already had the pleasure of reading your posts but refrained from replying (seemed like you had alot of admirers at the time....lol). You, too, seem like someone with his "head on straight". Anywho, I tend to believe most people have "good-sense"; they are just a little too lazy to use it. I guess it really is simplier to use generalisations to justify ignorance...and it takes just a little more brain power to see beyond the obvious. Another thing I have noticed is quite a few "interracial daters" are actually "racist haters in sheeps clothing". Time and time again I have witnessed a woman with children (that are obviously "mixed', for lack of a better term) that she really seems not to care for (name-calling and berating them in public) and I can't help but wonder if behind closed door she doesn't let a little racial epithet fly loose every now and again. But then again it seems as though too many of young women nowadays just simply aren't cut out for motherhood...PERIOD(regardless of race). And I have heard it said that quite a few women enjoy the "interracial" sex but really don't "like" the "race" of the man they are dating. Such madness is obviously more rampant than I thought(Ashley....you never lie, man....lol). ...in closing here I would like to thank "Rochi" for her posts.....I completely relate and am glad to know I am not the only woman of color that own an electric guitar...lol. Also I like your outlook on "different skin tones". That is such an evolved way of thinking....here's hoping it catches on.. though osmosis or something....lol. PEACE
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Mark says:Posted: 27 Jun 08Wow! Mr. Bill is just trying to show off his grand education and his superior sensibilities with that one statement. He is above all of us racists (black and white) because he refuses to acknowledge any race but the human race. BRAVO! BRAVO! Long may he bloviate...hopefully, so hard he passes out. Anyway, I think all kinds of women are attractive. As whats his face once said, "Beauty is in the eye of the beer...um, ah, rather, the bee-holder" (better wear sting proof gloves). I do find black women to be fascinating. I don't know why, I have only dated a few black ladies, so I can't make any general statements, like black women are all confident, or love you with more passion, but I'd love to find my soul mate. Any takers? I don't know if you can post e-mail addresses here but mine is mrpepe333@yahoo.
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Muriel0318 says:Posted: 27 Jun 08Hi t, Respect is the key word for any woman, particularly for black women. I am 55 y/o and will not put up with any kind of disrepect. However, I have notice white men tend to go out of their way to show me a little more respect and grace.(openning doors, saying yes or not miss, for example) I cannot say I have been dispected by black men. However, even though I talk to as many people during the day as I can, I have more banter with white men. By the way I like talking to men.
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t says:Posted: 26 Jun 08
The reason I date black woman is that they approach me. I am white, good looking, and have a lot friends. But I rarely approach woman, I can if have to but I hate BSing around trying to run game. If I am out somewhere if I make a lot of eye contac with a black woman to show I am interested she almost always comes to me. The things that my black male friends complain about black woman I have never expereinced. With one excpetion every black woman I have dated has been a pleasant experience. Several of the black woman i have slept with I still talk to. I don't talk to any of the other woman I have slept with. I have learned to go out of my way to respect black woman, I have always gotten twice as much in return.
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Jane says:Posted: 25 Jun 08I'm not sure if this is a new thing--White men loving the sistas--but I have noticed more and more white guys seem to be loving me. I am finishing up my PhD in Sociology at a pretty posh uni and have noticed the men in my program going nuts over me. If I had to venture a guess I believe some of it is of the, "Whoa, she's smart, funny and HOT!" variety and some of it is good old curiosity. I find the attention amusing since I've been with the same nerdy Jeff Goldblumy Jewish guy for nearly ten years (he's been dying to get married for about nine and I'm a foot dragging stubborn woman!)and am not looking for a partner. I'm noticing the white men in my age group, 35-45, are the most rabid. I suspect this is because they want it all: someone their own age who can share their experiences but who also looks like a 21 year old. These guys don't seem at all hindered by my age the way they are with white women in their late 30s. Black women and white women seem to have different "sell by" dates (most of which are self imposed) and I guess that tends to make them a bit desperate and needy. Before my partner I dated mostly affluent, smart nerdy black men who shared my interests in culture, writing and education and never considered white guys. In my defense the only ones who approached me where K'Fed types, which would not have been okay with my Huxtable-esque parents (both are physicians.) I didn't fall in love with my partner's race; I fell in love with his warmth, his intelligence and our shared life experiences (both of his folks are physicians too!) For me, dating a white guy was never about prefering them over black men or based on a belief in the "no good black dude" myth, but rather it was about falling in love with a person who mirrors back all the things I love about myself and me being able to be that person to him as well. Now these other chumps, I have idea what to think of their motives, but is nice to be the "prom queen" once in my life. Even if I am 35 and prom is mostly dissertation work groups and internships. Please forgive my spelling and whatnot. It's early and the coffeemaker is ass dragging!
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poetlove says:Posted: 22 Jun 08Before I start my comment I'm not for or against any form of dating. With that being said I think white men love black women goes back to the mystery of the unknown. I mean even when racist acts in the south were committed towards black women, it seemingly always ended in rape. I myself love sisters and will always be that way but in the spoken word world. You find circles or cliques that don't know race just artistic love. Which at times turns into relationship love. The same way people normally venture outside of their comfort zone with someone they work with. Back to the topic at hand in my hometown the capitol of confederacy you are starting to see interracial couples pop up like weeds. I just go by the notion you should like somebody for who they are not their color. I seem to only attract Hippie white girls, traditional asians, and afrocentric sisters , so it's all about what attracts you to a certain person
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woman2 says:Posted: 21 Jun 08I was married for 34 years to a man outside of my race. At the time I had no concious fear of the effect our relationship had on other people. I was clueless. I married at 16 years old and I suppose there is some truth to ,"ignorance is bliss." Now that I am more aware of the world we live in and how demented some people are, I hessitate to be in an interracial relationship. Mind you, when I met my ex husband, I believed the bible and love songs, in a forever love and forgiveness of wrongs. I believed others when they gave me their word and gave of myself with no reserve. It was after seeing the brutal ways men and women treat one another of their own race because of the absense of love and trust that make me to believe that....no relationship of any shade can fully function apart from humbly acknowledging our authentic needs with the love and support of those closest to us.
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Rockerchick27 says:Posted: 20 Jun 08Flirty1... no disrespect, but I feel as though that us an obvious question. The only reason people hold back from what they want (in this case) is fear of rejection, be it from the person themself, their own family, friends, etc. Lots of people disapprove of plenty of relationships. It's not reserved for white men and black women. -RoChi
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Flirty1 says:Posted: 20 Jun 08I've often wondered if all this talk about men being afraid to approach black women is really just fear of rejection?
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Member says:Posted: 20 Jun 08
Rayne, I read your post, about your gentleman friend's family. And how they are accepting of your's and his relationship. That's wonderful. As for those that are not accepting. Take those words treat it like water. And let it run down your back. Don't carry the negativeness around with you. Because if they're not going to help your relationship. Please don't let them be the one's who put a end to it. I'm on the side line cheering for your success. And his.
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Rockerchick27 says:Posted: 19 Jun 08Sorry for the long post XD. I thought you guys might get a kick out of this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4-f0n3G_GmM. The song more than the vid, but the vid is cool as well. -RoChi
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Rockerchick27 says:Posted: 19 Jun 08This is about Truth’s post on January 30. I know where he is coming from, and I don’t think an American-raised person will understand as well. It is well-known that American-raised blacks do tend to act much differently than non-American-raised blacks. Although it not all, it is quite a large piece of the pie. Only a person born and raised in another country and moving to America can tell you that there seems to be a huge difference with the actions and attitudes of blacks. Although not in all of them, this ghetto bitch/pimp attitude is prevalent. It’s not predominant anywhere else really. Am I saying it is nowhere else? Of course not. But it’s almost like the norm in America. And to respond to CaribPrinces' comment about some white men feeling intimidated by black women, when you take the facts into consideration, is this really surprising? To date, nationwide statistics still indicate that, of all the race and gender combos in America, (American-raised) black women are the least open to interracial dating. Of course there are plenty who would date or marry outside their color line, the percentage is still in the single digits. I’ll have to get an update with this next fact, but if it is around the same number since the last time I checked, the national number of marriages between WM/BF is still 4% (or is it 2%?). Many black (American-raised) women just are not open to it (and many black American men, as well). Though outdated and tired, the “White people enslaved us for so long and now want to date us?᾿ attitude is very rampant, as well as the “God made us different colors for a reason᾿ “There are enough black brothas for the sistas,᾿ “Only self-hating black women date white men᾿ attitudes. The people responding and acting like these aren’t the facts are naïve. But to answer the question at hand, I simply am attracted to white guys, mainly because they are what I was around as a child. Don’t get me wrong---I was around plenty of black guys as well, but I seemed to connect better with the white dudes. Read: I am black American and I love heavy metal rock. I play the electric guitar and have done so since middle school. I am in a band (about three years now) and we rock here and there. I have a few tattoos and my tongue is pierced and so is my eyebrow. Although… here (Maryland), everyone, despite the skin tone, seems to have either a tongue, eyebrow, or nose piercing (or a combo). Where I grew up, color didn’t seem to matter much; it was more like how you acted. If you were white and you acted like a ghetto person with no life, then black girls dated you. I was actually appalled by a lot of the black people in my second high school (we moved a lot). Well… it was more like this whole group of ghetto hispanics, blacks, asians, and whites, but the black girls were the worst. Mind that these were the girls who wore plastic-looking weaves, really long nails, and somewhat slutty-looking clothes. Of all of them, I remember only one being directly from Africa (but moved to America at a young age). The rest were Americans. Most of the black boys (and a lot of hispanics and a few white boys) were in this clique and only wanted to fuck and hang with the ghetto-est black girls. I was not one of them and was not trying to pretend I was. Naturally, the boys in this group never wanted to date me. I attended a ghetto school, clearly. My point is that, because I was a rocker chick, I was seen as a sell-out and a white-washed black girl. (When I moved to Baltimore, it was sooo much worse). I’ve only ever gotten offers from white boys--rockers no less--but you don’t see me complaining =) Since then, I’ve just been attracted to white guys ‘cause they’re so much nicer (personal experience). With the college I’m in, it’s totally different. I get offers from black guys, but I don’t accept any. Not because I don’t like them, but we don’t seem to be able to connect as effortlessly. It doesn’t really matter now that I am in a relationship anyway ;p Makes it so much easier. As for attraction itself, it is pure science and very complex. The generic answer would be that we’re attracted to who we can relate to. Often times, a person can find themselves not particularly attracted to someone until they take the time to talk to them. The brain will accept the signals eventually (if they connect), and will start releasing all of the necessary chemicals. There is the fantasy aspect. You are attracted to who you think will make good babies and a potentially good mate. It’s all evolutionary. On another note, I don’t like to use the term “interracial dating᾿. Skin tone is just another trait, and I don’t define someone as being different from me with how they look (genetically). It’s like rejecting someone because their fingers aren’t the same sizes as mine. The term just makes me feel like I’m dating another species, lol. Okay, I’ve typed enough. -RoChi
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Rayne says:Posted: 19 Jun 08Sarah, we met as neighbors, living across the hall from each other in an apartment complex. I was having trouble with my car one day, and he offered to look at it. I didn't know that he was a mechanic....lol. As for his family, the majority accept our relationship, others do not. We really do not let other people control how we feel. But do respect their opinions. Everyone has an opinion, some are more vocal than others. We have been together for almost three months. As for how often we "fight". I can honestly say we have not had any fights, but we do discuss our differences. Communication is so important. When two people fight in any relationship, neither can listen to obtain any type of understanding...this is my opinion. BigMama, thank you again, I truly respect and appreciate your posts.
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SaratogaDoug says:Posted: 17 Jun 08Hello everyone, Today, I came accross this website, okay I was looking for a place where I could find some sisters in the area who may have interest in me....lol. Although I am the type of white guy that is a little more aggressive (In person), I haven't seen any women of my preference in person, since I have moved too Saratoga Springs NY. To that end, my intention today is multi in purpose. First, I would like to add some insight as to why I date black women soley. Second I would like to "holla" at CaribPrinces, but I am not sure where else to reach her, other than here (lol, seriously though I am). Ok, so here it is. Initially, I found black women attractive as a boy (ages 14-18). Then it was only the model type on the cover of magazines. Keep in mind, I was never around black women until I was in the military at age 18. My initial, preference was only based on skin tone, eyes, musical inclination, and rythym. Those specific physical attraction, mostly created by what I saw on tv, were enough to create a desire for an actual relationship. I hope this initial basis for attraction is specific enough to deduct some conclusions for the readers. Next, I dated my first black girlfriend around age 19. This is where the excitement started! I found that most the items described by CaribPrinces in an earlier entry were true to me. Having said that, a lot of other race women do also have these traits. To recap, some of those traits were intelligence, age well, body type (which I would by lying if I said wasn't very important to me), and sense of humor or commitment. I would like to add a few to the list, like a sexy smile in a dim lit room over her shoulder, this is one that I know no women on earth other than a black women has the power to overwelm me. Now, haveing been in three long term relationships with black women. I know truely that I will probable not ever be in love with any women from another race. In fact, I have put my best foot forward to date white women in my area (because that is all we have) and although I am attracted and do find white women attractive, I am not attracted to them. After reviewing what I have written above, I feel no more closure has been added. Dam, guess I was naive to think I could do it better myself. So looks like I will keep "doin me" and not paying attention to the haters. Doug
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phatkitty says:Posted: 17 Jun 08
Legalese, dont even think about it, go with your heart, if you think too much you will procrastinate and you might miss out on something wonderful. Goodluck, let me know how it goes. ps. I would love to go sailing too.(lol)
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geneandthem says:Posted: 17 Jun 08Thanks tatted2death Finally someone with some real sense! You should read some of my prior post in this same blog. There are some real idiots in here, and the crazy thing is that these people are the people doing the interracial dating?? How is that possible?? How could you be a interracial dater and be this closed minded? Or clueless? This place is wild!!!! Ashley,
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tatted2death says:Posted: 17 Jun 08...oh...and also...just to clarify. I DO recognize some effort on the part of some women on here to be more "broad-minded" than most.....but the tactics are still rather "narrow" (i.e. comparing yourself to others, seeing others as "better/worse"). Please, people re-read what you write and try and see some of the propaganda that is being regurgitated. Whatever has been "force-fed" to you (via the media, childhood peers or some other misguided individual) need to be supressed. Again I say STOP THE CYCLE.......ok now I kindly step off my soap-box.....lol.
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tatted2death says:Posted: 17 Jun 08ok......I will reply once and ONLY once to "A white girl"....NO, I did not get you confused with anyone else unless there was a "guy right after" you going on about their "exclusive" physical attributes ("I have really soft skin, great hips and boobs (with pink nipples) and I have silky long blond hair which no black women has."). I was not personally attacking you on any level just making you aware of something that maybe you weren't. (if you already knew it, maybe it didn't come through to me in your post....sorry). All the (!) in you reply to my post got me thinking though.... maybe there is something to this theory I have. ANY....(I REPEAT>>>>ANY) woman that comes online and has to put themselves in some sort of "special" category might have some deeper issues than any of us can solve or even fathom. My only wish and hope here is that anyone that has any of these "complexes" truly finds peace in such a manner that does not continue to compromise anyones well-being.....including their own. Not being snide here at all.....just not wanting certain cycles to be perpetuated. Nuf Sed.
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conanld says:Posted: 14 Jun 08
Some more thoughts of mine on the enchanting power of showing interest in a person of the opposite sex! I’ve already explained how much I as a man can appreciate a woman who shows an interest in me, but looking back on my experiences of years past, I believe that I can provide some anecdotal evidence that women too are just as responsive to male attention as men are to female attention. Almost universally, whenever I have felt and expressed a genuine interest in a particular woman, and when I have done so while in the presence of other women, I have noticed a significant increase in interest in me from the other women observers. This has happened to me in bars, on buses, in bookstores, grocery stores, ticket counters, work; it really doesn’t matter much what the place is. What’s important is that I have expressed an interest in a member of the opposite sex, and others in the vicinity have noticed that. Heck, I’ve even had some men try to hit on me on some occasions when they have witnessed me show an interest in a particular woman. (By the way, I am NOT “gay᾿). Now it’s true that this effect is more pronounced when the woman of my affection is a black woman, and the observing women are white, but that’s another story for another day. Even when all of the women are white, or when all of the women are black, the effect is still there and it can be at times very obvious. Perhaps the most extreme case happened to me when I was around 33 years old (I’m 56 now). I had walked into a “high end᾿ bar and immediately noticed this very attractive woman. I made several passes at her to no avail, and I even tried to position myself close to her hoping to catch her eye, but she wouldn’t have anything to do with it. The only way I could have grabbed her attention would have been to risk a rude intrusion, so I eventually gave up, and looked for another woman to talk to. Before long, I found a willing companion and we were beginning to enjoy each other’s company. Shortly afterwards, the woman that had “spurned᾿ me, suddenly came up behind me, and said easily loud enough for me and many others to hear – “Why are you with her? You should be with me! Life just isn’t fair᾿! How about that one? Now it’s hard to know for sure what her true motivation was of course, but lets assume for discussion’s sake that her comments were genuine. Ladies, you do NOT want to be like that woman! If there is any chance that a man may suspect that you are not interested, then he WILL more likely than not, move on, and find someone else who is interested! Don’t play hard to get. I’m not suggesting that you act like a “floozy᾿, what I am suggesting is if you are interested, then show your interest! Here’s some tips for women and men alike – go out with an opposite sex friend or two, to a nightclub or other place of entertainment. Just talking with your friend will make you more attractive to the observers in the room! The same will be true for your friend(s). He or she will also appear more attractive! I have an image forever burned into my mind. One night at a dance club, I noticed this extremely obese man sitting at a table surrounded by women! You would have thought that he already had enough female companionship, but I was stunned to find that there were a lot of women observers, who just had to find out what was so special about this guy that looked like he had a harem surrounding him! He had more fun than any other guy in the entire place!
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conanld says:Posted: 14 Jun 08
Hi Legalease. I hope these comments will help Few things melt a man’s heart like a nice flirtatious smile, especially one that emanates from an aura of confidence! Naturally, this can be easier said then done oftentimes, but that’s probably why a confident flirtatious smile can be so cherished and effective, because it’s not something that you see everyday, it can be tricky to pull off without a hitch, and many people are just too afraid to try it! Everyone has insecurities of some kind or another, so there’s some risk involved, but so what? Believe me, it’s always worth the try, especially if you are truly interested in a particular individual. I have smiled warmly at a lot of women in my life, and a lot of them do not smile back, but in those instances when they do, it’s a wonderful experience, and it can magically open doors to future relationships! I have discovered over the years, a very interesting anecdotal “fact᾿. Can you guess what single factor rises above all others, when it comes to whether or not you will receive a warm smile in return? It is the other individual’s confidence level, and comfort with their own psyche. Physical appearance of the other person really doesn’t have that much to do with it. I have had beautiful women smile back at me, and I have had “plain᾿ women smile back at me. I have also had my share of both whom have completely ignored me for various unknown reasons. If you are not comfortably smiling at strangers, or even at opposite sex friends, there are other things that you can do that are also effective. If a man senses that a woman is interested in him, this can change the entire way he perceives her. Now all you regular readers know that I am a white man who in particular is attracted to black women, but white women can turn me on too. The reason I mention this is because a year ago, I encountered a white woman on an airplane (who was probably 25 to 30 years younger than myself no less) that suddenly made her presence known to me. It was like she appeared out of no-where. At first, I was almost annoyed by the “intrusion᾿, but then her persistence and attention wore me down very quickly. All of a sudden from my own perspective, this woman went from a state of being almost annoying to being very sexy! There was no doubt in my mind that she thought I was an attractive man. I could tell by all of her doting attention. Like other similar times in my life, had I not been married, I most likely would have asked her out on a date, despite our age differences because she was so very intriguing. As it was, we talked a lot, and I helped her with her luggage, and then I was on my way. It’s important to note that I did not initially find this woman to be particularly attractive, and yet it did not take a series of dates for her to very rapidly change my mind! She pulled off that magnificent gesture in a matter of no more than about 1 or two minutes time! All she did was make it abundantly clear to me that she was interested in talking to me, or at least that’s how it appeared to me. I’m sure she must have been quite skilled in her approach, because it was quite effective. So the bottom line is this ladies – show interest! It won’t work all of the time, and maybe it won’t work most of the time, but sooner or later it WILL work, and you will be very glad you made your move! God Bless
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Legalease says:Posted: 14 Jun 08Hi Cherris: I loved your post and the thread between you and Conald. I was wondering if you were truly considering writing a book, if you thought of a think tank. I have several Afro-female friends who have and/or are dating white men (one couple is engaged to get married on the 10th of October this year) and I find myself recently attracted to a man who is white. I have been doing my own unofficial survey on why WM/BW are now getting together. I have actually stopped couples to "interview" them. I have been getting facinating results which I would love to share with you. I have my own theories and have been getting some interesting results from the couples I have interviewed. I am a professional BW and have had some interesting experiences with WM especially in the work place. I have been met with a myriad of responses and comments about what "black women" are like. I do not think they know how to handle me. I believe they are different from the men of Conald's generation becasue we actually went to school together and sat in the same classes. They are curious but they do not approach. In any event, I would love to participate or at the very least explore the thread that you and Conald were writing about. I hope to hear from you soon, Legalease
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Legalease says:Posted: 14 Jun 08Hello Everyone: I just came across this site last night and I am intrigued. I sat up all night reading all the way through the blog and must say I am uplifted and dismayed by some of the comments I have read. This is like a vanilla/chocolate swirl soap opera. LOL!!! People like Conald, who made me teary eyed with his comments and with whom I would like to chat with more for some understanding and Ashley who is so full of passion, seem to have a chocolate cult following. There are others and I could go on but the reason I am writing is because I am a 40ish year old, dark skinned, Caribbean-American woman who finds herself hopelessly attracted to a 40ish year old WM. I have dated men who are Asain, Hispanic, White and Black (African, African-American and Latin-American). I have had my share of issues and successes with each man I have dated so to me men are men no matter what their racial make up. I, like Sunshine, have always been approaced by WM. For instance, I was in Chocolate City (DC) and there was only one man in the whole club guess who he asked to dance, you guessed it, ME. This has been going on my whole life. I even considered therapy to find out why BM will not date me. My brother says I appear to be "all about business" but that does not stop WM. Friends say it is becasue I do not smile enough, but that does not stop WM. I hold two degrees, I can bake my butt off, mocha torte anyone?, I love to try new things, I am well read, travel, love music and theatre, and have an amazing sense of humor. So I cannot for the life of me figure out why the BM never wanted to date me. I can say now I learned to date men who want to date me no matter what color they are, they just have to have like minded interests. I have heard some of the WM say that they are afraid to approach BW, please do not be afraid. Come up to us, ask us out, we are women just like everyone else. We work and love hard, we have our weaknesses and strenghts like everyone else. We are finally making head-way through a socitey and world that has consistently told us we are not and were not beautiful enough to measure up to the more traditional standard of beauty. We are just waking up from that painful slumber to explore our own beauty and we can use all the encouragement we can get at least I can. Anyway, I am standing down from my soap box to present my issue. First I have to say that I have no issues with black men, but have noted from my own experiences that they do tend to want more lighter skinned or white women. I hold no grude but as I have often stated in the past please do not put me down because you prefer non-Afro women. I do not, nor have I ever held grudges against brothers who have excercized their options, I just ask that you do not stop me from exercizing mine. With that said, I am hopelessly attracted to a 40ish year old , Italian WM. We get along great and I love his quirky sense of humor. He has an amazing heart and like me, is deeply spiritual. He gives amazing hugs which melt me everytime I am in his arms. He does not know that I have this crush and I am not sure I know how to tell him. He has dated women of color in the past and I know he is not adverse to interracial relationships. We have gone out as friends and have talked for hours. He has been hurt a lot (but then again who has not) and is reluctant to date anyone. He has told me that the next person he dates, he is going to take it slow. He has even asked me out to go sailing about a month ago but has said nothing about it ever since. I do not know what to do. I would love to hear from Conald or Ashley on this. Heck, I want to hear constructive advise from anyone. We work together for the same firm but not in the same location. I do not want to take up anymore time and thank you for reading thus far. I have so many questions to ask the WM who have made their interest known. I look forward to uplifting and encouraging comments for anyone who would like offer advise. Thanks, Legalease.
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Member says:Posted: 14 Jun 08
Rayne, I wish you all the love and romance and respect that your heart and mind can handle. Remember what i said. Love yourself first, don't allow any kind of head games. Most of all please be truthful and lay it out on the table. He has to respect your honesty. He has to see from the get go He's Not Dealing With A Child. (Trick's Are For Kids) And don't be afraid to say NO! Be Bless Rayne.
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sarah says:Posted: 14 Jun 08rayne, i too am black and in a interracial relationship. How did u too meet and how does his family feel about u. How long u too been together and how often do u 2 fight? Sarah
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Smooches2008 says:Posted: 13 Jun 08I would like to say thank you UK! You said everything I've been thinking! We are the most imitated and mimicked of all women. We have always been sought after for our unique beauty our beautiful skin tones and of course these lips and hips. Not to mention we are a very mentally strong race of women. I love all my beautiful sisters of all races. However, I admire, adore, up lift, encourage, support, and love my beautiful black sisters! That embark on this journey with me through all the BS we will endure because we love colorlessly
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Rockerchick I love your passion, if you were into brothers I'd be planning to perform in your city soon