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Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    I'm guessing the latter then you were caught short. I don't think it's a matter of forgetting history it's a matter of me saying I can't compare my history of that of my ancestors. I don't live in the past but yet I recognize and acknowledge it's existence and it's effects on the present and future.

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  2.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Bamababe said: Menelik the only confused person is you. If black women have no options which is bullshit, then wouldnt the US census say that? Menelik replied: I said Black women have no options? I don't think so! I said the following: what you really mean is that Black women do not have the same OPTIONS! Let’s not confuse things here! This is exactly what I said, Bama, and the whole site can read it! So I'm confused, yeah? Or simply unable to humbly acknowledge when I'm caught short? Menelik Charles London England

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  3.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    e-dub said: It is been my experience that the social pressures brought to bear on black women by the black community are a common cause for black women to note date/marry white men... Bamababe said: I’ll say it before and I’ll say it again, the main reason you don’t see more bw with wm is because of ...loyalty to the black man from black women. Dear Menelik Charles; it is my observation that greater peer pressure is brought to bear on black women. I would say the root of this is that black male/white woman combination is viewed to stay within the black community and the white man/black woman combination is viewed as exiting the community. Bamababe said: I agree with you E-Dub and my point for the reason why a lot of black women still date within the race rather then explore their options loyalty and a sense of obligation to the black man. Menelik replied: @ Bamababe that's funny, if you read the quotes above you will notice that e-dubs made no reference whatsoever to Black women's loyalty to the Black community in general or to Black men in particular! menelik Charles London England

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  4.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Menelik the only confused person is you. If black women have no options which is bullshit, then wouldnt the US census say that? And I just pointed out that three of my black gf's all have WHITE husbands. So while you trying to lump my one comment onto ALL black men, aren't you doing the same to black women and white men as well of which you have no proof or stated any to back up your comments?

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  5.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Seriously Menelik you going to raise hell over that comment? Give me a break SERIOUSLY?!? Dude get a grip ok? I think most people understand what I was talking about apparently you STILL don't get it. Why doesn't that surprise me?

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  6.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Bamababe2k9 said: Black men don’t have that some pressure when it comes to dating outside the race as we do. Menelik replied: what you really mean is that Black women do not have the same OPTIONS! Let's not confuse things here! Menelik Charles London England

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  7.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Bamababe said: Like I said, black men for years have dated more white women then we dated white men. That’s the point. Menelik said: That is not the point at all: you said the following: Bamababe said: Black men in my opinion NEVER limited themselves but black women do. Menelik replies: to use the term NEVER in the context of African-American history is utter nonsense since it instantly erases ALL OF AFRICAN HISTORY IN AMERICA INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY THAT OF SLAVERY AND THE RECENT PAST! Menelik Charles London England

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  8.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    I agree with you EDub and that was my point too for the reason why a lot of black women still date within the race rather then explore their options loyalty and a sense of obligation to the black man. Black men don't have that some pressure when it comes to dating outside the race as we do. ANd you are right, these days most black families are run by the mother because a lot of the black fathers aren't around due to one circumstance or another.

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  9.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Salsassin, Sorry to burst your bubble, but there was no one African American history. Different regions, classes, etc had different experiences. Menelik replied: why on earth do you think you're bursting my bubble, Sir? The general back drop of African-American history is one of slavery, de-Africanisation, and racial discrimination for ALL classes and shades of African-Americans. Maybe you'd like to deny this fact too! But as I was about to say - this shock jock in Talk Radio...he had an almighty chip on his shoulder! Always putting people down: always beginning a sentence as though he'd won a war, and ending as though burying his victim! Menelik Charles London England

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  10.   e-dub says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Dear Menelik Charles; I would say that peer pressure is brought to bear on black males to date/marry within the race. However, it is my observation that greater peer is brought to bear on black women. I would say the root of this is that black male/white woman combination is viewed to stay within the black community and the white man/black woman combination is viewed as exiting the community. Secondly, I didn’t’ anything about the patriarchal nature of the black community, I would say if anything black society is more matriarchal but that’s just my observation. And to the subject of observation, if not my own observations whose observations should I use? Just curious Take my opinions for what they’re worth

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  11.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    It's hard to have a discussion with someone who quite frankly doesn't make a whole helluva a lotta sense and compares everything to movies. When you actually make a point, then maybe I'd have a better answer

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  12.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Bamababe said: Menelik I get you don’t like IR dating or marriage but like I asked in a previous post, why do you and some other black men have a double standard? Menelik replied: what standard have I EVER put forward here, and how have I doubled it? This is but ONE question now, Bama! Do try and address this question first since you failed abysmally to address the others! talking of films, have you ever seen Straw Dogs. It's about dogs made out of straw...a bit like some peoples arguments lol Menelik Charles London England

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  13.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    @ Salsassin, thanks for quoting me at length. I am most proud of my insights as I am of my intelligence (as, of course, are my parents!) but do you have to insult everyone you choose to pick a fight with? You end every point with a put down of your chosen opponent? All of whom appear to be Black men? What was that I said about RACIAL ALLIANCES? Still, I figure you are far from a silent partner in any such union lol And what of the quote above? This was NOT made in reference to the masses of Black women in inter-racial relationship (and you, sir, will never prove that it was!) but in regards to a tiny group of so-called Black female Empowerment bloggers whose work racially abusing Black men I can quote at random, if you wish! As regards my relationship with Andrew, well, I will no more publically renounce than your President will renounce Pastor Wright! Weird, isn't it, how Black people are asked by white people to snitch on or condemn a fellow Black or be punished or abused in some fashion or another. Anyway, you remind of the main character in the Talk Radio. Check it out. There's one scene when the shock character is asked...well, that would give the story away but I will say that it was really quite sad. menelik Charles London England

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  14.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but there was no one African American history. Different regions, classes, etc had different experiences. Many of the people you would call Black today weren't even considered Black back then. I'm not talking of individual cases. Yes the majority was worse for Black identified people. But there was a significant minority that held reins of power

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  15.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    1) could not white men just about ‘have’ any Black woman he wanted (by force if necessary) throughout most of US history up to the 1970s? Salsassin said: No, they couldn’t. Her status mattered a lot. As well as his status. I am sure Anna Kingsley and other rich plantation owners could not just be ‘had’ by any White who desired them. Menelik replied: "I am sure Anna Kingsley and other rich plantation owners" were status-representatives of the masses of Black (?) women in much the same way the rich 'n' famous Sidneey Poitier isn't representative of most Black men! Menelik said: 2) were not Black men “limited” by fearful Black mothers, and by white men wielding legal authority and a noose, from so much as looking at white women up to the 1970s? Salsassin said: Again, depended on status, region, woman’s status etc. Upper class Blacks in Boston were kown to have Irish maids, for example. Yes, they ‘had’ them too. Menelik repled: and the US of A was known as one of the most racially-divided and racist nations on earth (2nd perhaps only to South Africa) and this was the general context in which both the masses of Black men, women and children lived their day-to-day lives! Citing individual instances of power or fame cannot, surely, deny the general reality of African-American history! menelik Charles London England

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  16.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    I see he didn't correct me nor address my questions either so I figured he was. Just a guess lol

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  17.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Menelik Charles is just another of Laurelton Queens buddies the IRR sisters do not perceive white men as being intrinsically superior to Black men...far from it in fact! Instead they see (and write about) Black men "rejecting" them for white, light, and Latino women and this wounds them deeply as it is not only romantic and sexual rejection in their eyes but especially racial rejection! The scorned 'sistas', who already have issues with colour and hair texture, then seek out white men with whom to form what we see as romantic unions but are instead RACIAL ALLIANCES in which the white male is a silent partner! It's an unspoken contract in which the Black female promotes white male superiority over the Black male in exchange for a symbolic honorary white status. The stress this 'contract' causes Black women is immeasurable and so they seek to displace it onto the men who continue to occupy their hearts...Black men! Thus, we must interpret all of their IRR work as sub-conscious distress signals or SOSs'. Thing is, only a Black man could possibly read the signal correctly. White boys would never have a clue! Menelik Charles London England http://blackmenconfrontingthelies.blogspot.com/2009/01/wisdom-from-brotha-menelik.html Another troll like Queens.

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  18.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    1) could not white men just about ‘have’ any Black woman he wanted (by force if necessary) throughout most of US history up to the 1970s? No, they couldn't. Her status mattered a lot. As well as his status. I am sure Anna Kingsley and other rich plantation owners could not just be 'had' by any White who desired them. 2) were not Black men “limited” by fearful Black mothers, and by white men wielding legal authority and a noose, from so much as looking at white women up to the 1970s? Again, depended on status, region, woman's status etc. Upper class Blacks in Boston were kown to have Irish maids, for example. Yes, they 'had' them too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQBZBXHSqI

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  19.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    I don't know you but seem to take the side of Queens and his crazy arguments now if I'm wrong you are welcome to correct me

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  20.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    I don't think you really covered anything. I don't recall hearing lots of bw/wm marriages back in the day and I bet the numbers prove me right that there were still more marriages among bm and ww then bw/wm. Like I said, black men for years have dated more white women then we dated white men. That's the point.

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  21.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Bamababe said: Menelik I get you don’t like IR dating or marriage but like I asked in a previous post, why do you and some other black men have a double standard? Menelik replied: what standard have I EVER put forward here, and how have I doubled it? This is but ONE question now, Bama! Menelik Charles London England

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  22.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Bamababe2k said: Menelik I did answer your question you didn’t mention Jim Crow or Martin Luther King, now if you didn’t understand the answer then that’s your problem. You didn’t like the answer I gave. Menelik asks: 1) could not white men just about ‘have’ any Black woman he wanted (by force if necessary) throughout most of US history up to the 1970s? 2) were not Black men “limited” by fearful Black mothers, and by white men wielding legal authority and a noose, from so much as looking at white women up to the 1970s? You are correct, I didn't mention Jim Crow or Martin Luther...and nor did I meake mention of JFK, Malcolm X or the brothers at the 1968 Mexico olympics giving Black Power salutes. But I did allude to the period up to the 1970s which just about covers the Martin Luther King and Jim Crow eras, dontcha think? You referred to no history whatsoever in your original statement here: Bamababe 2j9 said: the main reason you don’t see more bw with wm is because of social pressure mainly for the wm and loyalty to the black man from black women. Black men in my opinion never limited themselves but black women do. But I believe that’s changing these days. Menelik says: the truth is that Black men's options were severely limited as YOU should very well be aware! Not so white men's options since Black men in general could not (and in some cases, dare not) prevent a white man from propositioning a Black women in any way he saw fit! Just accept that you got it wrong on this ocasion, Bama, and live life! Throwing straw men all over the place, does not an argument win! Menelik Charles London England

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  23.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Menelik You can call it an option or alternative but I've said most black women prefer to be with a black man, but college and corporate america has given us the option or alternative as you like to put it now of dating and marrying white men. I have a college friend who is in corporate America who had a white guy pursue her and they got married a couple of years ago and she dated both black and white men in college. Her sister is married to a white guy too and so is another college friend of mine.

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  24.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Bamababe said: I think another problem is a lot black men aren’t on the same level education and job wise as black women, therefore black women are turning more to white men as well. You date who is available to you, for more and more black women, that’s white men. Menelik said: and for more and more white that's an Asian woman! And since you suggest Black men are not on Black women's level academically (such Black women just loath thugs!) then the white man isn't so much an option as an ALTERNATIVE!!!!!!! Menelik Charles London England

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  25.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Menelik I get you don't like IR dating or marriage but like I asked in a previous post, why do you and some other black men have a double standard?

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  26.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Menelik I did answer your question you didn't mention Jim Crow or Martin Luther King, now if you didn't understand the answer then that's your problem. You didn't like the answer I gave.

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  27.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    @ Bama, with respect, I'm getting nothing wrong! Remember I asked QUESTIONS...I made not a single statement! So because a famous black man or woman married a white person in the 1960s means that Jim Crow did not exist, correct? or that Martin Luther King was not marching and dying for the cause of humanism and racial integration, correct? Bama, just answer the two questions as asked and stop accusing mean historical revisionism when you failed even to make mention of history! with Respect! menelik Charles London England

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  28.   e-dub says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Dear Bamababe2k9; It’s called hypocrisy. Don’t make too much out of man some say man is the animal that prays but I suspect man is the hypocritical animal. Interracial Marriage has always been legal in the United States but it hasn’t always been legal in every state. For example, in my current home state of Washington it has always been legal. It was even legal in some of the Southern states such as Louisiana. (And no, I can not name any other Southern States that permitted interracial marriage) I know the Louisiana story because my great-great-something-or-rather married a black woman from Mississippi and moved to Louisiana so they could be legally married—there was also a bank robbery in the story that I also suspected encouraged his relocation. But I digress . . .

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  29.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    I think the problem I have with this is the hyprocrisy of this whole argument that it's ok for black men to date white women, but not ok for black women to date white men. It's ok for black men to explore their options which they have been doing for years, but not ok for black women to do the same. There were white women who were oppressors of the black race as well so why do they get a pass and the white man doesn't? Why Queenie says the white male magazines don't encourage white men to date us, I don't see Cosmo or Vogue encouraging white women to explore their options outside their race either. So I'm asking a very pointed question, why the double standard?

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  30.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    @Menelik I think you are getting your history mixed up here so let me straighten it out for you. Slavery ended in the 1800's so a white man basically "having" a black woman and I assume you mean rape is wrong. Interracial marriage wasn't legally allowed in the US until the 1960's. As far as black men go, several of them were dating and marrying white women in the 60's. Sidney Pointer had a white wife back then, so did Sammy Davis Jr., Quincy Jones etc. so as far back as the 60's and I assume even further, black men have dated and been with white women. I think most of the racial hangups about interracial dating and marriage is a generational thing. If you were born during or before intergration, you probably have more of a hangup then those of us who were born after intergration had occurred.

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  31.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Bamababe 2j9 said: the main reason you don’t see more bw with wm is because of social pressure mainly for the wm and loyalty to the black man from black women. Black men in my opinion never limited themselves but black women do. But I believe that’s changing these days. Menelik asks: 1) could not white men just about 'have' any Black woman he wanted (by force if necessary) throughout most of US history up to the 1970s? 2) were not Black men "limited" by fearful Black mothers, and by white men wielding legal authority and a noose, from so much as looking at white women up to the 1970s? Menelik Charles London England

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  32.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 10

    Scoff/Sarah The first time I kissed Scoff, I felt so much guilt, it was like I had betrayed my family, and the whole black community. Thank you so much for bring this out, as in some my earlier post I mentioned, oh my God I kissed a white boy, what will people say, (the black community). Menelik replied: nice piece of romantic revisionism, babes, but you forgot to mention the socio-political and racial context in which your apparently forbidden kiss(by white society!) took place. Please make mention of it, sweety, then the sense of having betrayed your oppressed (by white men) community will make more sense. If not then do please consider a career as a novelist at Mills & Boons... a place where fantasy transcends reality lol Menelik Charles London England

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  33.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    Thanks Sarah, like I said most of us know that black women are more loyal to black men, therefore we stay and prefer to stay within our race or at least most of us do. I don't think that's a secret.

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  34.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    Ms. Bama So true even the thought of a black girl, with a white boy would of caused some very serious & I do mean serious problems (mid 1960's). The first time I kissed Scoff, I felt so much guilt, it was like I had betrayed my family, and the whole black community. Thank you so much for bring this out, as in some my earlier post I mentioned, oh my God I kissed a white boy, what will people say, (the black community). Yes I'm still around Mr. Queens, just staying on the side lines, I still love you, but please I'm sure you have more important things to do than post on here all day. Go put that talent to work, doing good things. Hello to all my friends God Bless all Sarah a big hug for Ms. Godiva

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  35.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    I'll say it before and I'll say it again, the main reason you don't see more bw with wm is because of social pressure mainly for the wm and loyalty to the black man from black women. Black men in my opinion never limited themselves but black women do. But I believe that's changing these days. I think another problem is a lot black men aren't on the same level education and job wise as black women, therefore black women are turning more to white men as well. You date who is available to you, for more and more black women, that's white men.

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  36.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    They deserve not to have losers such as yourself as boyfriends? 100% Indeed.

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  37.   Member says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    LOL MzBrown OH now black women didn't realize they could date outside of their race. (Hitting head)Damn black men "brainwashing" us. Okay guys please forgive us and let's start all "over again". Nothing wrong with white guys being the second option. These sellout black women are a disgrace. You said this Mz Brown "I think it wasn’t so much not realizing the option, it was more just not considering the option." See, you didn't consider the white boys before, but now the sweet chocolate apple pie is ready for them now?? (Mimicking black women) Nice and hot (Waving over here) (Jumping up and down, single available). See, I bashed black men, now do you want men??? Kick rocks you loser sellout black women. You are getting what you deserve! Have a nice day.

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  38.   LillyCalla says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    Laurelton you were right when you said you don't see white men going to the ghetto to pick up black women for a date especially ones with kids. I think its important to talk about the truth behind white men dating black women sometimes its about love but most of the time its about fetishes and hatred. Don't be too upset with black women though, we try our best to live in this world.

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  39.   MzBrOwNSuGaR says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    @Sal You said: If all people married what was their first choice, before they explored the world, their choices would really suck. No, that is not selling out. That is pure stupidity. It is called personal growth in perception. Many Black women never realized they had the option to choose outside the Black community in the first place. It’s funny how Black women who live in much more integrated communities, such as that of the army, have a much higher incidence of choosing inside or outside the Black community for their “First Choice”. I guess those that choose to get a better job are “selling out” to their first job which was probably the only choice they had at the time. I think it wasn't so much not realizing the option, it was more just not considering the option. But other than that, well said Sal

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  40.   MzBrOwNSuGaR says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    @ Queens: you said this to otherbrother: "I do admire you for supporting the kids. But I don’t know where all this anger comes from. Mzbrown just said you should respect your wife at “all times”. You don’t have to listen to these nappy headed black women’s advice. Because most of them “fold up” anyway. But the fact you got on Mz Brown ass. Shows me there is something “deep” there" LOL!! will you PLEASE leave the psychological analyzing to Dr. Phil and bring yo nappy headed self here so I can give you ya bipolar medicine.

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  41.   MzBrOwNSuGaR says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    @ other Brother First off, let me say that if you do all the things or duties that you say you do for your wife and family, then I have no problem being the first to commend you on that. Second, what I said in response, to your post of being " the man that I am" who " can holler and holler good", was just that, a response, cause you put that out there on a public discuss forum, and that's what people do, respond. For you to say I have insecurities, and all the bit about accepting a man that hits and that other you said, was assumption. You don't know me, or nothing about me. Insecurity is a person's own SELF doubt, and that has nothing, or should have nothing to do with a person not liking, or appreciating, or being comfortable with a spouse that hollers good at other women. Tell me one thing, what exactly is "hollering good"? And how does that constitute an " execellent husband" supporting his wife's emotional dreams?

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  42.   Malarki5 says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    @ e-dub, you mean the pressure from all those Black families dominated by patriarchal black men, right? I guess the family is the place where the cultural rules are layed down so you must be talking sense since Black men dominate the family...and by extension, the Black females within it. Of course, there was NEVER any pressure from Black mothers etc historically for Black boys and men to stay away from white females was there now? Oh, and isn't it strange how YOUR EXPERIENCE apparently counts for so much in your argument...along with the truth, of course! LOL Menelik Charles London England

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  43.   e-dub says:
    Posted: 24 Mar 10

    Mr. Queens; You assume it is white men that will not date/marry black women. It is been my experience that the social preasures brought to bear on black women by the black community are a common cause for black women to note date/marry white men not the other way around.

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  44.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 23 Mar 10

    The average for the nation is 5%. But 7% is dismally low. LMAO!!

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  45.   Member says:
    Posted: 23 Mar 10

    LOL Sal You said this......... "Black women had an interracial marriage rate of 1.5% and in 2000 an interracial marriage rate of 4.1%." You act like 4.1 is a big jump. This is still dismally low. I want to know why white men pick black women last to date? I haven't received a straight answer from you yet. By the way, 7% is dismally low for foreign black women. (Putting chin on hand) If you had a "case" you're client would get the electric chair.

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  46.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 23 Mar 10

    Still trying to argue the strawman. LOL. Since 1970 to 2000 Interracial marriage of ANY type increased from 0.7% to 5.4% of all marriages. Anything within this percentage would be within the norm. Black women had an interracial marriage rate of 1.5% and in 2000 an interracial marriage rate of 4.1%. It is Black men that changed their dating and marriage patterns drastically. 1.1% in 1970 to 9% in 2000. What shows even more that this trend is more about Black women changing their selection pools over that of White men, is that while only 4% of African American women are intermarrying, 7% of Foreign born Black women are intermarrying. New Marriages, New Families: U.S. Racial and Hispanic Intermarriage, 2005, Lee & Edmonton.

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  47.   Member says:
    Posted: 23 Mar 10

    (Listening) (Putting hand on your shoulder Sal) We can argue about the numbers. You said this.............. "The only reason the percentages go down is because they are percentages of black marriages as a whole regardless of gender. Black men start to out marry at a much higher rate. Black female out marriage has also increased but at a much more moderate rate. Of course the marriages that do occur are much more solid. Divorce rates there are no different than that of White males with White females. Not so in the Black male marriage arena. In fact. Black men divorce Black women more than White men due. But to be fair, I believe racial antagonism in this country serves as a filter. White men who marry Black women tend to have gone through a culling out process such that those that do get married tend to have similar statistics to marrying someone of their own group. Animosity from society has already tested their commitment before marriage." We are not talking about divorce rates. I am asking you what happened with white men not marrying black women "at a rapid rate" from the 1960s? Black men nearly triple black women when it comes to marrying white women over the same "time period". What black men do has no affect on the marriage rates of black women "wanting" to be with white men. You either trying to imply that or misinform people. Stop blaming black men indirectly in your posts. What is going on with white men concerning marrying black women? That is my question. Calling me names is not going to solve anything. I do have a degree in Criminology but anybody with a High School Diploma can tell you "white men are hardly marrying black women". You can call it "moderate" ,"slowly". However, you want to label it. Now if you want to make up numbers "about that' You be my guest. By the way, stop making excuses for white men. By implying "society is testing the commitment of white men to marry black women. That is a "cop out" , at worse a poor excuse. Come up with something better. Because I am waiting.

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  48.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 23 Mar 10

    More stupidity from our resident idiot savant, minus the savant part. Again Marriages are important because they confirm commitment. You can have plenty of other relationships that may have commitment, but there is no way to confirm it. Thus they become speculation. So we deal with marriages that are factual and verifiable. I posted up a link from 1980 and quoted the years. I was being anecdotal of the past. Of course Idiot minus Savant fails to perceive that. He also keeps on claiming a failed statistical claim that there are three Black women for every one black man. Remember that this guy claims to have studied criminology and to be an auditor. LOL Now you can go to the census and get the most recent data available: http://factfinder.census.gov/home/saff/main.html?_lang=en What was the male Black population in 2000? 16,465,185 So how much should the Black female population be in 2000 according to Lobotomized Queen? 16,465,185 X 3 = 49,395,555 Black women in 2000, according to brain dead. What was the actual female Black population in 2000? 18,193,005 18,193,005 vs. 49,395,555 hmmmm, me thinks Lobo Q is way off. Now, I provided a source for 1980 just to show a past trend. But let me dummify it for Lobo Q here. In 1960 there where 26 thousand Black women married to White men. Ten years later 24 thousand Black women were married to White men. Ten years after that 27 thousand Black women married to White men. Eleven years after that the number jumps to 75 thousand Black women. Just one year after it jumps even more to 83 thousand Black women married to White men. This is an upward trend. And in fact, much more marked when you consider the percentages they represent of the whole Black female marriage trend. 0.85% 1960, 0.71% 1970, 0.78% 1980, 2.09% 1991, 2.31% 1992. The only reason the percentages go down is because they are percentages of black marriages as a whole regardless of gender. Black men start to out marry at a much higher rate. Black female out marriage has also increased but at a much more moderate rate. Of course the marriages that do occur are much more solid. Divorce rates there are no different than that of White males with White females. Not so in the Black male marriage arena. In fact. Black men divorce Black women more than White men due. But to be fair, I believe racial antagonism in this country serves as a filter. White men who marry Black women tend to have gone through a culling out process such that those that do get married tend to have similar statistics to marrying someone of their own group. Animosity from society has already tested their commitment before marriage.

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  49.   Member says:
    Posted: 23 Mar 10

    Interesting comments The same people that claim I am "losing the argument". Do not even believe "Sal's numbers. However, he wants to "spin it". He needs to prove to people why white men are reluctant to marry black women. By Sal's "own admission" he said this...... "Marrieges are important because they factor out casual dating vs confirmed commitment." Oh really, some of the sellout black women said it is not "all that important"to be married. Also, for sellout black women to be married, they must have "men" willing to marry them. You seem to dance around that Sal. LOL I have been consistent on this blog. So consistent, that I back up my statistics with research. All he can do is "make up numbers" that can never prove his point. The same link SAL put up. Source: U.S. Bureau of the Census Internet Release date: 06/10/98 (Pretty old) Get up to date information "Latino Mail". All my information is current. You mentioned the church statistics I put up. Let's say 10 to 1 is far fetched. It is still safe to say there are at least 3 black women for 1 black man. You can lie your way out of it. It makes no difference to me. The statistics also speak to "the type of man" they would want. I am pretty sure black women want a man that goes to church. Sal you said this earlier "Interesting statistics: http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/race/interractab1.txt In 1960 there where more Black women marrying White men than there were Black men marrying White women." What the hell happened leading up to 2010? Dear Other brother I am not "hollering" at other women and have a "black wife". You are a honest guy. First you said Sal is beating me in a misinformed fight. LOL You don't even agree with his numbers. But somehow he is beating me. I feel like Floyd Mayweather. Inever get the respect I deserve. I beat his ass with "recent statistics and articles". They still say "oh it wasn't convincing enough". I don't make up numbers. Sal can google African American History but has a link of a 1998 report. LOL I am heading to work. LOL

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  50.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 23 Mar 10

    I gave the link. They came straight from the US Census. http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/race/interractab1.txt

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