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Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   MzBrOwNSuGaR says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    To Ichibod: I started to come back with a long copy/pasted response to you but I won't. I will say that if the "retarded kid needing a rescue" was aimed at me because of my post to boots, lets not get it twisted. It's not a question of rescue, but respect. I find it very sad that men who have black mothers, grandmothers, sisters, aunts etc. are ok with ANYONE, be it white, black, or green, calling black women out of their name and making derogatory remarks about their ethnic features. When that is done, it goes much further than just being aimed at the so called "sell out" Again, on your remark "some" women needing rescuing, I can honestly say that I have seen you come to the "rescue" of "other" women on other blogs here, so, like I said, it's all about where, or to whom, one directs his respect. I can also remeber seeing on one of your posts, else where, how it hurt you to hear black women say thay are not attracted to their own men. How come you can't see that we can feel the same hurt? And for the record, the majority of black women are very much attracted to BLACK men. I do agree with you, the fighting back and forth has gone wayyyy to far, and to be honest, I don't read most of it. I think those who have been involved in it are enjoying it immensely, and my email box is paying for it. (I'm gonna have to stop the post from coming to my inbox i guess.) Gosh, this was supposed to be a short post, lol. I hope this doesn't sound like I am picking a fight with ya Ich, that's not the case at all.

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  2.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    I think there are some good and interesting conversations to be had on here but people don't like to be brow beaten into submission because someone doesn't agree with their views.

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  3.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    I also notice that all these thread by this James dude seem to always be about piting the ethnicities against each other. It is all about which ethnicity is better at this or that. It is a bunch of stereotyping hogwash. Seriously, the most racist person on this page isn't even queenie, well ok, he ties the author of this threads. They are both equally full of shit and post blogs that are only there to cause intrigue and strife. This message board seems less about bringing unity as it is about smack talking and competition.

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  4.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    Yeah like I said the other day I miss yahoo chat where you had your own rooms and you can just ignore people.

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  5.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    The part that blows chunks about this board the most is that you can't start your own threads and there is no active moderation.

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  6.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    @Sal nice analysis, can I use it? Too late I'm taking it lol

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  7.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    Yeah, but it's like that bubblegum that you have chewed for way to long, and all the juice is gone and now it only tastes like stale saliva. Just spit it out and let some other unfortunate sole step on it. Goo like that never goes away. You just have to scrape it of your shoe and move on.

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  8.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    @Sal I know you are right. He's like that scab on my arm that I keep picking at,can't help myself. Plus it's fun teasing him and pissing him off for my own enjoyment.

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  9.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    OK, I am bored. Yeah it was entertaining for a while, but Queenie is one trick pony. All he is going to do is spout the same accusations over and over again. Shoot, all you have to do is requote your answers from the last time. He has completely and utterly shown himself to be the ass he is to everyone on the board except to his own deluded mind and maybe one or two fellow hatemongers. So why waste your time entertaining him? We showed him the ass, now let him fart in the wind. After all, that is all he is, a foul wind that stinks but other than that, has no effect. If anything, he convinces women who are on the fence that there truly are assholes out there that they might want to avoid. I think he idotically perpetuates the very stereotypes he claims he is trying to fight. Fart on Queenie. You have been officially Beano'd.

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  10.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    Queenie you are right and I'm STILL not going to tell you either. I get defensive because you are an asshole who thinks he knows everything and has a God complex because one or two people might actually agree with the dumb shit you say although you don't have PHD and never dated outside your race before. And on top of that you act like a dick to most of the women in here who you don't agree with or whom you don't like because of your own issues which you refuse to address when addressing others. I entertain your foolishness quite frankly out of my own bordem. When we have other things to discuss you'll be forgotten like yesterday's newspaper and toss to the side. Or maybe I just get tired of you and will ignore you for good. Now, back to Grey's and my basketball game.

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  11.   Member says:
    Posted: 05 Mar 10

    LOL Sarah Palin, what do you know about Sarah Palin? It is not assumptions when you something hide. You got all defensive for no reason. You never denied any of my accusations. See, I am not claiming that I date "two black women". Now if I said that, they would call me misogynist and a womanizer. When you date "two white men", it is called "exploring relationships". QQ Looking past the self hating pussy. I wonder if she would say all that about a white man. At 35, I bet you have a lot of "mileage" on you. All of the white men you dated, I wonder if you call them rednecks and crackers after they left you with your panties down. Keep nodding your head at family events. I wonder if her white husband got white trash family members? She is to pussy and self hating to confront them. But she can run her mouth about projects, blunts, and whatever else she says about black people. What about trailer park white trash people? Keep wearing that hood rat dress you prostitute. That was the only way you was going to get anyone at 45. LOL You got to be kidding me wearing a prostitute dress to see you're white man's mother. His poor white mother was like "who is this dirty 35 year-old prostitute you married"? (Looking at my watch) I have to go. Oh yea, I am going to work on my new post with you're prostitute picture. Motel room and everything in the background. (Shaking my head) LOL WHY do they make it so easy for me? LOL (Smiling)

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  12.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Queenie stop u are sounding like Sarah Palin. You talk a lot of shit but don't know what the hell you talking about. I bet you say you can see New York from your apartment in PA. LOL I don't answer to you that's the thing you don't get nor like. You don't know me, nor do I want you to know me. You making assumptions based on a few words I told someone and you pissed because you thought you were going to crack on me about my life instead I made you look foolish and that's the REAL truth. You don't care about Christnity you basically just said that yourself. This is about you trying to call out me because I showed you UP in front of your boys. So your crack back was trying to call me out about. Quite Frankly I don't owe you and anyone else an explantion in what I do in my life,but for some reason you think someone "owes" you something. Or I should explain myself. Mr. Queens let me tell you something, before you start sweeping around my porch or anyone else's for that matter, you need to to clean up your porch first.

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  13.   tamn8ercl says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Mr Laurelton Queens, You don't know what I'm talking about? Your words. I quoted you! You bragged about your mother getting busy to get you out of the project. Wow, you would think that after people try to say that you twist words, you wouldn't pull the same thing on me. I'm just quoting you. So you aren't going to address the fact that your sellout mother was a loose woman who screwed her way out of the projects. Then why do you brag about it? Now you are bragging about your mother being some White man's “favorite black prostitute”. hmmmmmmm You were raised by a sellout loose woman...now you hate Black women. I don't blaim you. Your mother sound NASTY according to you.

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  14.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Dear Bama You said this.................... "Oh and a lesson on Chrisinity. Doesn’t mean “perfection.” I never claimed to be an expert nor do I claim to be perfect. But I do have my right to share my opinion and if you don’t like it, tough titty." This is my thing with you. You said your deal breakers are men that are agnostic or don't believe in god. You implied that in "so many words". How can you set those "rules" or "expectations" and you do not live up to none of those "ideals". You want a "moral man" but you practical no "morality". NO, the lesson on Christianity you should "know better". You are basically saying " I am not perfect" so I can get away with what I am doing. You should strive to live up Christian principles. I do not live up to Christian values. I admit that. Will I ever change? I don't know. But I sure will not ask people to say 'Hey man defend me". You out of line altogether asking men or women to "defend" you. I will never anybody to defend me if I was a womanizer. I will just say you know what. I am trying to resist temptation. Somebody said you shouldn't judge people. Jesus judged people. There are numerous stories in the bible of Jesus judging people. People will always judge people. Even if you wasn't sleeping with two men, why do you need to date "two" white men? Explain that to the people here. One of those white men could be with a "black woman" looking for a man to be with. Other black women should take your ass to task for the shit you are doing! I plan to address this on my blog. This is the type of thinking that make black women fail. Good day.

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  15.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Dear Tamn I don't know what you are rambling about. I wouldn't call your mother a prostitute. My mindset does not think in that manner. I think you got serious issues. Maybe you feel like a prostitute in your marriage. You read off all these stereotypes about black people being in the projects. Maybe your white husband was with a black prostitute. That is why he was attracted to you. He might think your outfit reminded him of his "favorite black prostitute". It always funny to me how black women can read off stereotypes and never question a white man "about his" fetish for black women. When was his first experience with a black woman? They are so eager to get married at 35 because they feel lonely and desperate. They "grab" onto anything. I tried to give you a "pass". Keep your statements out of the gutter concerning family members. I do not get pleasure out of arguing with an old lady that "managed" to get married at 35. Like that was some "great" accomplishment. If you were so great, you would have been married in your late 20s or middle 20s. Nice Monica Lewinsky dress. That might be my new post.I like that title. (Putting on gym clothes).

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  16.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Oh and a lesson on Chrisinity. Doesn't mean "perfection." I never claimed to be an expert nor do I claim to be perfect. But I do have my right to share my opinion and if you don't like it, tough titty.

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  17.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    No actually Queenie it's not your business because A)wasn't talking you unless you traded your penis in for a vagina recently B)The only person I answer to is Christ but you think somehow are Christlike because according you are an "expert". On what we don't know but that's the world according to Queen. Son you just jealous because like I said you thought you were going to crack on me for not having a social life and when you found out I actually have one, you pissed because it happens to be with not just one man but two while you have NO ONE to speak of. So you can assume and say what you want, doesn't make me going to tell you the whole story and basically you don't know anything. That's what bothers you the most is you don't know anything. Like I said you a hyporcrite because you do have a double standard for black men and black woman. In fact do you have any original thoughts? Because you haven't given a reason that I've seen for why you are not into IR dating because you are the one hiding your true feelings. Sounds like to me, you are the one in hiding. Oh and let us know when you get that that Bullshit oops I mean PHD. LOL

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  18.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    QQ Bama Why are you hiding now? You don't want your "two" boyfriends to know what you are up to? These sellout black women are simply amazing. Going to the YMCA. My kid got suspended from school. Now I am losing money. Queen Latifah you can "run" but you can't hide.

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  19.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    (Picking up my drink) Actually, my mother was a virgin when she got married and had me. My mother was raised upper-class in the Caribbean. Maybe, you are projecting your experiences onto me. You can always counter with "your upbringing". I would like to know how you were raised Tamn? I am pretty sure it is equal or better to my upbringing. I suppose you have a PhD Queens Latifah? If you did, you would know the difference between being perceived as a slut bucket for being with two white men at "the same time". You haven't denied that these two men don't know about each other. You made an interesting statement. Why should somebody listen to me if I don't have a wife or girlfriend? They are free to listen to me or not listen to me. Nice counter argument. If I am such an easy target, why can't you admit you are sleeping with "both men"? There is no shame in that. Just be honest about it. It becomes my business when you start giving indirect device to black women, who is actually "living" that Christian lifestyle. As for Tamn, you seem obsessed with blunts and the projects. I don't even know what you are rambling about. Did thugs "run" a train on you and your white husband does not know about your past. I know why you bring that up. You was with a couple thugs in your past. You was hitting that "blunt" with them. You let the age thing bother you. LOL You asked me not to post the picture. I can respect that. I am gentleman.

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  20.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Queenie throughtout this WHOLE conversation, you still don't know the truth and I still haven't told you. LOL

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  21.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Queenie you the worse type a black man. You have a double standard. It's ok for black men to date and marry white women and you too afraid to confort them because they'd probably would smack the shit out of you for being in their business. You are an easy target because you don't have a PHD of any kind in any science nor do you have the experience to speak on the subject. If I sleep with 30 men at the same time what business is it of yours when you trying to give out advice when you don't have a wife nor a gf. Why should anybody listen to you? The only thing you are an "expert" in is being childish. Oh but you do have a PHD (A playa hater degree)

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  22.   tamn8ercl says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Mr Laurelton Queens What nerve calling her loose after you brag about your mother having slept around and "My mother got married at 22" so you wouldn't have to be a "black man" "in the projects, smoke blunts, and never had a father." Is this why you are angry with Black women? Because of what your mom did? Raised by a sellout....hates sellouts. Serial killers who had mothers who were prostitutes usually murders prostitues, so I guess it makes sense.

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  23.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    (Coming home again from a long day at work). Why are you running to ICH because I said something to you? I respect Ich and I am sorry he got dragged into this. However, you said you was dating "two white men". That is out of youre mouth Queen Latifah. Even Big eyes was "skeptical" about that whole scenario. She wanted to "keep the peace". I am not going to keep the "peace". You jumped on her like some 300 pound bully. You don't control the conversation here. I don't have a problem with Sal. I have gone "back and forth" with him. I point out the "reality" of dating for black women. He will never admit he got a wife or girlfriend. He is like Marquez and I am "Floyd Mayweather". You point out "wishful" thinking about interracial dating. When you don't have an argument you say the statistics do not make sense. No wonder, none of these men will be in a "serious relationship" with you. You are "coy" about sleeping with both men. Basically, you gave yourself away by not "denying" it. On top of that, you said you was a Christian. You sitting her talking about "deal breakers" and you having sex out of wedlock. You should be the LAST one to talk. Ich is a Christian. What makes you think he is going to "cosign" a loose woman? He is a better man than me. I would have cursed your ass out. I want you to come and spank me with your " big redbone ass"! You are like the worse type of sellout black woman. You want people to defend you being "loose". You got some audacity. You are running to everybody to get me "off you". First it was the "site supervisor". Now you are running to other "black men". Was you abused growing up? Why are you running to the authorities so much? It is just a debate. You want to take "your toys" and leave. You was a spoiled brat wasn't you? You won't even do that. You want to "give out" the toys and tell people "how to play with it". I will lay your big red bone ass out on the bed and pull the phone out of the jack and throw your cell phone out the window. You are a damn tattle tale. My baby niece does not even do this shit.

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  24.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    No, it's not okay. How many more posts can you find by black men using black women as there reason for dating other races than black women using black men as their reason for dating white men? Oh, notice I said black men and other races as oppose to white women. I could care less. I merely observe, he just makes it a point to question the genuine nature of a black woman's reasons for dating white men... as oppose to other races of men. Some women act like they're some retarded kid about to get punched for accidentally drooling on someone's shoe when it comes to his comments and someone to come rescue them. And maybe you just haven't been here long enough to see what black men have had to say about his antics. It's get old after a while and not worth trying to do anymore. I pity those that always feel the need to respond, It's just like that video of that bus fight with "Epic Beard Man". The ChinaTown bus fight video was pretty funny too. That black lady felt the need to hit that chinese lady over some nonsense and then got her butt beat. Call it silent consent or whatever, some people just need to grow up. Kids in school couldn't stand me because I never fed into their taunts and insults. Even now, I just stop answering the phone for people I don't care to deal with anymore regardless how long I've known them. It's like "sticks and stones may break my bones" is something that we learned as kids but can't seem to figure out how that would and should still apply later in life. After many of his posts, I wait to read responses to the results of his fact finding missions. I don't get to. I only read scathing and childish attacks on his character from what appears to be women, evidently fitting the discription, rising to the occasion to fight. Just calm down. Ofcourse, I see him as the kid in school that had to sit in the corner numerous times for laughing at kids struggling with short words in reading class, but struggling with short words is indeed an issue that needs to be overcome in order to advance to the next grade. It's all about perception.

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  25.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    If black women are sell-outs for dating white men, then what does that make the black men who date and or marry white women? Aren't they sell-outs too? Oh but I guess that's ok because they are men.

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  26.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Ichibod Most of the shit this man says is not because he actually gives a damn about "sistas" it's to put us down as if we are pieces of shit on the bottom of his shoe. It's a damn shame that really Sal has been the ONLY man on here black or white to call this fool out. Most of the guys have sit on their hands and said nothing.It's like you guys are afraid what he is going to say about you. A lot of the women on here are tired of his bullshit and decided to say ENOUGH. When is enough is enough?

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  27.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Salsa, That was an awesome essay. I already knew much of that stuff by my own family history as well as MY overall interest and study on the subject(s) of... black history (go figure). "When non-scholars suddenly learn historical facts in adulthood, many assume that their ignorance results from a vast conspiracy, rather than from their own lack of diligence." This is so true and why I can't stand listening to some people spout off history especially in regard to race and other human relations. Psychology and Theology do more for me in that instance. I learned about the Dewey Decimal System in the 1st grade. For a library to be filled with millions of books, i.e information, knowledge; believing that around 6 different books a year for 12 years contains everything there is to know is quite silly. Besides, only elementary school really teaches you what you need to know: reading, writing, and arithmetic. All other grades are designed to train the mind how to learn and apply knowledge. It's sad that many teachers don't even realize that and school board committees struggle to find ways for new generations of students from various walks of life to adapt to an educational process that was perfectly fine and has been for decades. It is important for parents to stop believing that it is the schools responsibility to soley train and raise their children. I was in gifted and honors classes all through school because my home environment was conducive to learning. Many homes only have a bed, bath, food, and toys to keep kids quiet, but lack disciplince and/or respect for authority and priority. I heard in some state they were trying to pass a law that would pay teachers based on student performance. See, this is the type of crap I talking about. I'm so glad I graduated 14 years ago. Some low life kid with no home training making it hard for others to eat. Also, that video of the bus fight was hilarious. The man was walking away, so dude should have sat down and shut his hole. I got rid of my braids years ago. That guy said he was 50 in a radio interview. Too old for that nonsense. Oh, boy. Now there's the OTHER one that made me block this blog from my email. @ MBS, Many black men have spoken up asking him to "cool it" or "to not lose focus". As far as the "the very rude and offensive remarks", do you mean by his presentation or his facts? I simple can't see how a group of women agree to ignore him, and then 2 of them continue on with him for close to 100 more posts. @Sir Laurelton, Like Chris Rock said, "There's a reason to hit everybody. Just don't do it". Always good to see you doing what you do.

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  28.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    My thing is if you not into interracial relationships, then why be on here other then to the stir the pot. I can't speak for everybody but I would say most of us aren't looking to be converted. This ain't church and we aren't looking to be save from the "big bad white man,." Hell most of us are either are looking for love, good conversation or good advice or all three. @Queenie since you love sports so much here is my breakdown to you: There are lies, damn lies and statistics. If a lot of black women aren't married, more then likely aren't a lot brothas aren't married either. So, it ain't just us.

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  29.   tamn8ercl says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @ Mr Laurelton Queens, Wow I love your ignorance. I don't have to give you permission to use my pics. I posted them in public, you idiot. I don't want you to but I can't stop you. If you could read, you'd know that I'm 35 and was married before. But 35 45...it's all the same. It doesn't matter. Now let's look at what you said. Your mother had you before she was 22 to give you a father and get you out of the projects? So you think you are better than other Black men because their moms didn't sleep around to get them out of the projects? Your self hatred is amazing! Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!Your mother screwed you out of the project!!! HAHAHAHA I don't think I would've told that to anyone! WOW!!!! I see why you are so hard on Black women....mommy issues. TSK TSK

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  30.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Dear Tamn I guess you are allowing to me to use the picture. The "self hating tirade" was interesting. Projects, blunts, and etc. What are you rambling about? You are wearing the same outfit the supposed "hood rats" wear. Now that is "ironic". I got nothing against black people that are in the projects and struggling. Not everyone can be as "successful". The recession is really "bad" in the country. I hate to break the news to you but not every black man lives in the projects, smoke blunts, and never had a father. None of which applies to me. My parents have been married for 31 years. My mother got married at 22. You are 45 or something like that. Nobody is disputing your "looks". Anyway, good luck because you are going to need it. You have a nice day.

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  31.   tamn8ercl says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Sal Now I'm going to have so fool sitting in the projects, smoking a blunt, and whacking off to my pic. Ewwwwwww :-P

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  32.   tamn8ercl says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Mr Laurelton Queens HAHAHAHA I care what street corner trash thinks about me so much!!! :-( I'm old!!!! Why can't I be 21 like you!!!!!!! :-( PWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You remind me of some homeless person laughing at my new hose!!! HAHAHAHAHA Almost forget...I'm pregnant and 50! WooT! I look good for 50. I know I look better than any 6 kids having hood rat you can pull. If you could pull quality you would feel so inferior to White men. Let's recap. I put down Black women. I'm 50 years old. I'm arrogant. You forgot to mention that I don't care what you think because low class ghetto trash like you clean my toilet. At any rate...when will you learn that low class ghetto trash don't have opinions. No one cares. LMFAO!

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  33.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    LMAO!!! @ the Gentleman part

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  34.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    LOL Sal I know you didn't put up a video of a disturbed white man getting some lucky punches in. Anyway, Tamn looks good for a 50 year old woman. I am not a hater at all. I like the green dress. I never twisted what you said. Let's review it. "@ Mr Laurelton Queens LMAO @ sell out Black woman. Am I a sell out Black woman? I love my White husband very much and he loves me. I’m not unmarried like 40% of Black woman" (Drinking orange juice) You are playing word games here. I thought Queen Latifah was arrogant but you take "the cake". It almost like you are "sticking it" to other black women. You also said this............... "I’m putting down Black women. So the f*ck what! Your twisting of words are not believed by anyone. So because I feel sorry for you… I’ll play along. I put down other Black women." (Raising eyebrow) You are a middle-aged black woman that just got married or whatever case. You act like you won "Let's make a deal". Anyway, I have to head back to work. Tamn I am asking permission to use your picture on my blog. The one with the green dress. It won't be anything mean or nasty. I am a gentleman of course. You have a nice day.

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  35.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Qv_nq3uw4& Queenie beating the crap out of poor white dudes.

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  36.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Sorry bub, not married. Keep researching. LOL Most people on this site are chatting with each other, not arguing on this forum moron. That is why they aren't posting. Notice all threads are dead. And in your dreams that anyone would be breaking my jaw. Now go fix my cable.

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  37.   tamn8ercl says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    *You can't piss off people who already know that they are better than you.*

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  38.   tamn8ercl says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Mr Laurelton Queens, HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm putting down Black women because I suggest that they should too ignore color win love comes into play?!?!?! HAHAHAHA Whatever!! I'm putting down Black women. So the f*ck what! Your twisting of words are not believed by anyone. So because I feel sorry for you... I'll play along. I put down other Black women. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Here is a helpful hint for you. You piss off people who already know that they are better than you. You are low class trash so your opinion means nothing. :-D

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  39.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    (Waking up drinking coffee) (Reading Queen Latifah's comments). NY PRESS "Really". You are putting up a "NY Press Article". The statistics don't change. If it makes you happy to put up that article. LOL I wasn't even going to respond to Tamn. Instead, she indirectly "puts" down other black women. "LMAO @ sell out Black woman. Am I a sell out Black woman? I love my White husband very much and he loves me. I’m not unmarried like 40% of Black woman because I met my perfect mate and had to ignore that he wasn’t Black. That wasn’t easy as we both have a prefrence for our own race. It was just love. Firt time swirl for us both." It is not about the 40 percent of black women not being married. It is about the "root cause" of the problem. Do you think white men will "solve" that problem? You are an attractive woman. I look at the overall population of black women. The ones that Sal hides from his "Latina wife". This person said this......... "Comment by boots on 4 March 2010: SAL… you need to stop lifting large segments of your history text book and placing them in front of us when you dont really understand what’s in front of you" Yea, why google this bullshit. You are not helping black women. I rather you keep the "serving" them the Koolaid about white men "falling out" of their penny loafers for them. I haven't seen a white man comment in awhile here. Maybe 1 or two. The excuse is "because I am here". Fight for your black woman. I am pretty sure Queen Latifah gets tired of defending you and making excuses for you! Boots I salute you! Look at this racist coward. "Comment by Salsassin on 4 March 2010: Boots, go shine some. You are obviously clueless." Come MAKE ME DO IT! Go tell one of the black girls you date, brothers or fathers that shit. You will be eating out of straw after they break your jaw! I have go to my "ex woman" is making me breakfast. You have a nice day.

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  40.   MzBrOwNSuGaR says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    to boots: Just a question. Have you read some of the very rude and offensive remarks that have been continually made, and don't you agree that justifies the ladies to speak up, and why you or none of the other black men don't at least speak up and ask him to cool it? I guess that was three questions huh? LOl

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  41.   MzBrOwNSuGaR says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    to tamn8ercl : Congrats. I especially liked that neither of you excluded your own race, but you just happened to find love and went with it. You strutting your stuff in your pics gurll, and your wedding picture was very beautiful.

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  42.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Boots, go shine some. You are obviously clueless.

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  43.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Intermarriages in the US have been historically lower than in other countries where the average has been 40%. In the US it has been below 4%. But except for the Jim Crow era, that rate has been pretty consistent. Of course part of the reason was that African Americans were only 14% of the population. If about 2% of of marriages where interracial black/white in 1860, we are looking at about 14% of the African American community that was marrying interracially in 1860. That is huge chunk of mixed kids there were not being born out of rape, but from loving relationships.

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  44.   MzBrOwNSuGaR says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    waitin willy said : "i really dont understand what the hang up is about white men dating black women or latino dating black people . i have been involved with black women since i was a kid it feels natural to me that i being a white man dating a black woman - it is so natural to me its like breathing oxygen ineed it to live -samegoes for black women i need them to live so all those people hate white men who date black women i feel soory for you because you really dont know what your missing - black women are the sweetest kind of women on the planet" That was nice to say Willy. I admit everytime I come here to read, I hope to see something like that said by a black man. I know, I'm in the wrong place for that, I guess LOL!

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  45.   boots says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    SAL... you need to stop lifting large segments of your history text book and placing them in front of us when you dont really understand what's in front of you

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  46.   boots says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    This is the same old...bs you here all the time it's in vogue today White man forms an alliance with black woman... gang up on black man... tell the world how bad black man is ... then talk about how beautiful IR marriage is... at the same time always talking about finding "love" you guys want so called love at the expense of truth and justice. All you blk ladies want to take everything that this Salsassin says as GOSPEL"yall" need to do some fact checking.........

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  47.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    Myths Across the Color Line Essays on the Color Line and the One-Drop Rule by Frank W Sweet May 1, 2007 I n this context, “myths” are counterfactual beliefs taught to the young in order to exemplify social standards that they will be expected to follow in adulthood. The U.S. endogamous color line is a rich source of such myths, believed by African Americans and non-Blacks alike. Ten color-line myths follow. Some come in two versions: Black and White. Myth 1. White folks have no African genetic admixture. — In fact, about one-third of White Americans carry traces of sub-Saharan DNA from Black slaves whose descendants passed through the U.S. color line within the past three centuries to join the White endogamous group. (This is separate from knowing that the human species emerged in Africa, and non-Africans descend from a small band that crossed from Africa to Asia about 75 millennia ago.) Nevertheless, the amount of sub-Saharan DNA in White Americans is insignificant. Hence, there are two ways of looking at this, both accurate. One says that most of the DNA of sub-Saharan origin in the U.S. population is found inside the bodies of African Americans. The other says that there are twice as many White Americans as Black ones who have detectable sub-Saharan DNA. Myth 2. All Black folks have some African genetic admixture. — In fact, about five percent of African Americans have no detectable sub-Saharan DNA. This is due to the difference between ancestry and admixture. Membership in the African-American community follows family histories via the hypodescent rule: children of interracial marriages are usually seen as Black. Hence, all African Americans have some Black ancestry. But half of your DNA comes from your father and half from your mother. The other half of parental genes are lost at each generation. If a family has had much out-marriage with Europeans, it can happen by random chance that all of an individual’s sub-Saharan markers may have been lost despite known Black ancestry. Myth 3. European genetic admixture in African Americans comes from rape. — This myth comes in two versions. Some Whites say that admixture resulted from Black-on-White rape after the Civil War. Most African Americans and White liberals attribute it to White-on-Black rape during slavery. In fact, although rape has happened across the color line in both directions, the current levels of African genetic admixture in White Americans and of European genetic admixture in Black Americans match what one would expect from the number of actual documented intermarriages. Before 1691, intermarriage was routine. Before the Civil War it was nearly as common as today. The intermarriage rate fell drastically during the Jim Crow era but has now recovered beyond its former level. Also, for as long as records have been kept, Black male/White female intermarriages have been more common than White male/Black female intermarriages. In some places and times, such as 19th-century Boston, the difference was extreme. Finally, among Americans with “mismatched” mtDNA and Y markers (matrilineal from one continent and patrilineal from the other), most have patrilineal European markers, but a large minority show the reverse. Myth 4. The one-drop rule was invented to decide whether you were a slave. — In fact, the one-drop rule (that you are Black if you have any Black ancestor, no matter how distant) was a Jim Crow era phenomenon. It was first made law in 1910 Tennessee and spread nationwide over the next two decades. During slavery days, racial membership was the opposite of the one-drop rule. A person of any visible European ancestry was presumed to be free. The court cases Gobu v. Gobu, 1802 North Carolina, Hudgins v. Wrights, 1806 Virginia, and Adelle v. Beauregard, 1810 Louisiana established the U.S. caselaw that if you had any discernible European ancestry you were presumed free, and the burden was on the alleged slave owner to prove that you were legally a slave through matrilineal descent. This law was then followed in hundreds of court cases without exception until U.S. slavery was ended by the 13th Amendment. The only identifiable U.S. group that consistently advocated the one-drop rule long before it was embraced nationwide, was the African-American ethnic community, first in the northeast, then in the south after Reconstruction. White Southerners fought against the one-drop rule until the 20th century because it might tarnish old-wealth Southern gentry. They eventually accepted and incorporated it into the Jim Crow system of state-sponsored anti-Black terrorism. Myth 5. Before the Civil War, all African Americans were slaves. — In fact, about half a million African Americans were free in 1860 and about four million were slaves. The myth supports the notion that African-American ethnic traditions descend from the slave experience. But most of today’s African-American ethnic traits descend from the literate, civically active free Black communities of antebellum Boston, New York, and Philadelphia. Such traditions include the AME church, church-centered neighborhood communities, ethnic self-identity and pride, even the term “African American” and the principles of hypodescent and the earliest one-drop rule. Those traditions were forged by such men as: Paul Cuffee, Prince Hall, Richard Allen, Martin Delaney, and Frederick Douglass, of whom only the latter was ever a slave. Many families of the Black communities of the Northeast had no slave ancestry, descending from colonial African indentured servants before slavery (lifelong hereditary forced labor) was adopted in British North America. In contrast, ethnic traditions in the Lower South, where most slaves were, resembled today’s Latin America, where most free citizens were mixed to some extent, almost everyone (slave or free) was of the same ethnic self-identity, and a single sharp color line did not exist. Myth 6. All slaves were Black. — In fact, whether you were a slave had nothing to do with your appearance nor with how much African ancestry you had. Slavery descended strictly through the maternal line. You were a slave if your mother was a slave, and she was a slave only because her mother was a slave, and so forth. Thousands of genetically White (European) Americans were kept enslaved in the antebellum South because they had a distant matrilineal ancestor who was a slave. The most famous example was Thomas Jefferson’s son, Eston Hemings. Even though he was of overwhelming European ancestry, he was a slave because he had been born to a woman who was a slave at the time. But when he was manumitted by his father’s will, he took his place in the community as a White Virginian. Myth 7. Before the Civil War, all White southerners were slave owners. — In fact, some White southerners did not own slaves. This myth comes in two versions. Defenders of the antebellum South say that few southerners owned slaves. This is correct. But it is correct because only the head of each household was usually considered the owner of all the family’s slaves, and most people are not the heads of their households. Detractors of the antebellum South say it the other way: “Most southern households owned slaves.” This is also correct, but the bulk of southern slave-owning households owned only one-to-three slaves, fewer families owned more than that, and only wealthy families owned entire plantations of slaves. Myth 8. All slave owners were White. — In fact, many slave owners were of mixed Afro-Euro ancestry. This myth also comes in two versions. Confederate defenders say that hundreds of Black people owned slaves. This is incorrect. As of 1830, 474 wealthy biracial families of the South Carolina elite owned 2,794 slaves (about one South Carolina slave in a hundred), but they were not considered socially “Black.” Similarly, in 1830, 967 families of the French-culture Gulf coast gens de couleur libre owned 4,382 slaves (about one Louisiana slave in twenty-five). Seen another way, of the 1,834 Colored Creole households in 1839 New Orleans, 752 of them (41 percent) owned at least one slave. Again however, those families were not considered socially “Black” (a term applied back then only to people of unmixed African appearance). The Black version of the myth says that the only African Americans who owned slaves were those who purchased their own wives and children in order to protect them. Although this sometimes happened in Virginia after 1830, when manumitted slaves were exiled from the state, it is incorrect overall, as can be seen in the number of slave owners and the numbers of slaves recorded above. Some of the wealthiest and most famous slave owners and slave traders in the South were of mixed Afro-Euro ancestry. Myth 9. Black soldiers fought for the Confederacy. — In fact, no Black soldier ever legally fought for the Confederacy. To the very end, the Confederacy enforced a national law forbidding Blacks to serve as combat soldiers. (They could serve as musicians, teamsters, and laborers.) The law was repealed in the last few days of the war but to no avail. Again, there are two versions of the myth. Confederate defenders imply that the biracial slave owners of South Carolina and the Gulf Coast who fought to defend slavery were Black. This is incorrect because they were not legally Black. They were seen as Coloured, biracial, or White with some Black ancestry. On the other side of the myth, some African-American re-enactors point to the Black regiments of the Corps d’Afrique of Louisiana who asked to be mobilized into the Confederate army, along with the other state regiments. But they were turned away due to the law mentioned above. Then they applied to, were enlisted in, and fought throughout the war as regiments in the Union army. Myth 10. If it were true, I would already know about it. — The most destructive U.S. color line myth is that if a little-known fact were true, then everybody would already know it. As one person said: “Your claim that some Blacks were free before the Civil War is ridiculous. If it were true, it would be trumpeted to the skies. In my whole life, my entire life, I have never heard of such a thing.” — Written by a 15-year-old participant of an online discussion group. At one level, ignorance of the nation’s history is understandable. K-12 schools cannot teach all of America’s past. Children and teachers cover an overwhelming amount of material. So whenever school boards discuss curricula, they must decide what to leave out. And they often decide that history-teaching should aim for citizenship skills, specifically, to teach those myths that students must learn if they are to function in U.S. society. Once they can function as citizens, if any of them want to learn the detailed facts, they can do it in college. At least, that is the rationale. At another level, ignorance breeds more ignorance. Most people do not take college history and so they go through life thinking that what they learned in K-12 is all there is. In The End of Blackness (New York: Pantheon, 2004), Debra Dickerson tells a story of when Senator John McCain was informed that his great-grandparents were slave owners. He was dumfounded. According to Dickerson, although McCain often talked about how his ancestors had fought for the Confederacy and that they owned plantations, it had never occurred to him that they owned slaves. When non-scholars suddenly learn historical facts in adulthood, many assume that their ignorance results from a vast conspiracy, rather than from their own lack of diligence. Dickerson, who repeats many of the above myths, explains her own prior ignorance by saying that, “whites cannot allow themselves to know their unbowdlerized, unexpurgated history.” But the facts are available in any college text or monograph to anyone who takes the time to read. She should have said, “not teaching kids historical facts during K-12 is harmful to society.” But being ignorant of college textbooks and then accusing them (which the person has not read) of falsification is the worst myth of all.

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  48.   Salsassin says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    tamn8ercl, indeed, he is a lucky man.

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  49.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @Menelik, Good to see you, Sir. I didn't see you earlier because I had to unscribe to this blog. I couldn't take anymore of a certain blogger's posts filling my email.

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  50.   Bamababe2k9 says:
    Posted: 04 Mar 10

    @BE I agree. Hell a lot of black men aren't married either so it's not just us. lol

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