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Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 14 Jan 10

    And for the record THIS is what kind of struck me as B.S.... ---------------------------------------------------- Comment by bigeyes31 on 8 January 2010: @Robs Try praying to him and not about him,LOL. Ask him to help your unbelief. What will you lose if you try?? --------------------------------------------------- ...and then it is later said that "no one was trying to convert anyone"......AND even if he said he had prayed before, who are you to tell him HOW to pray......A BIG FAT PFFT ON THAT.....what if someone told you to draw a big pentagram on your floor and kill a chicken (ridiculous notion....but I think you get my point)???? Like he said acceptance is the first step....you can "care" and all but once you start seriously telling someone how to be/do/think anything you've crossed a very personal line (especially when it comes to RELIGION or spirituality). I relate to Robzz because of the whole being labeled a "heathen" or "devil worshipper" (which again is PERSONAL choice...and you'd be surprised what REAL SATANISTS believe) simply because you don't espouse one belief or another. RELIGION IS A DRUG to alot of people and sometimes it is best to just keep it personal (between you and your closest friends and family). Nowadays it just helps people justify all sorts of wrongs And who really cares who is "out of the dayum box"??? It is ALL about respect people. We all are basically trying get the same results in our lives, there are just different paths.....RESPECT EACH OTHERS.....PERIOD. Peace and Have a EXCELLENT day, Good People

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  2.   Robzz says:
    Posted: 14 Jan 10

    OH yeah Bigeyes I almost forgot Cash is King! Yeah My moneys with Red Cross. Don't trust anyone else. Although... puttin all the money in one basket can be foolish word Tatt Havent checked out that book. Too busy hittin' the school books. and to all the haterz...I'm takin' Bible study. AKA Western Mythology LOLz. Easy A

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  3.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 14 Jan 10

    Dang it...I hate the "copy and paste" move but I feel it is needed here..... "Aethiest- one who does not believe in the existence of a Supreme being,ie. God. Breakdown-does… NOT=NON… BELIEVE=…NON-BELIEVER. LOL. It’s ok to label people what they label themselves. Especially, if they say numerous times that they don’t believe in God and state that they are an aethiest. Logic people, come on, stay with me, LOL. Utopic thinking really does cause a disconnect…JUST A THOUGHT…LOL. But seriously…" BUT SERIOUSLY....(LOL) First of all....I am very glad that someone owns and uses a dictionary here. But sometimes people are required to do a little more reading between the lines to get to the root of things. Robzz may call himself an atheist and even say certain things that an atheist MIGHT say but my (educated/logical....lol) take on this is he might actually lean more toward being an AGNOSTIC (have fun looking that one up....lol). I mean, judging from more of what he actually says when he tries to explain himself (futile in here at the moment) he actually sounds more open to different possibilities than the atheist label would have everyone BELIEVING. Some people just WANT to read things wrong to justify having so much to say on a subject. (NEVER used the word Utopia...amazing how that keeps coming up...LOL). Hey Ich, how's it going..... some black people call themselves the N-word so what your point there, dear man....lol. OYE BEAUTY!!!!....Woman, how have YOU been???.... I have missed your presence here and it's nice to actually "see" who gave me the infamous name of "Jarrita Hotsauce".....as you can see I am still living up to that one....LOL...Happy belated Birthday, sis and keep coming back for more. Robzz, What's up with you, man......I see you are still hanging in there....I like your style (on this subject) and your points about science....WONDERFUL. I wish others would open their minds a bit to the fact that science and religion DON'T have to be at odds..quite the contrary. Hey..did you check out that book??? If you haven't, you REALLY should. OHHH Daffy...I mean. Queens...(lol) I see you still have a taste for my bath water....that's cool......LOL. Are you sure you weren't an "altar boy" in church......that would explain alot...(tee hee) You know you really need to hush now because I told you a long time ago I agreed with alot of your views on the "church and religion" - right about now myself and Robzz are probably about the ONLY ones....notice no one else is even addressing it...LOL - you make some EXTREMELY valid points there. That and your core/original definition of "sellout" are just about the ONLY things we really agree on....LOL. And BEFORE YOU EVEN START on what might be perceived as a tiff between myself and another female here, I will say again that having a COMMUNITY/FAMILY here is all I have ever been concerned with.....but when I detect B.S. I call it out....plain and simple. That does NOT mean I have a special "hate-on" for the person - I JUST WILL NOT BE PUSHED INTO A CORNER OVER SOMETHING I NEVER SAID OR DID.....PERIOD. You know this better than anyone, my sweet Daffy...lol. Alright I have said enough (for now....lol) Sorry, MustangDave...but this is the way of the blog right now.....so be it.....SOMETIMES you just have to go with the flow and let it runs it course. This is just one of those topics that very well could go on forever. (depending on who stops by...lol) Peace and Blessings tatted2death

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  4.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 14 Jan 10

    Beauty you are great. You are not the face of "religion" but the body of Christ!This is what Jesus was talking about. You HAVE to think outside of the box to follow him. People will not like you, think you're crazy, and question you for doing it. You can't be a "belonger" and follow Jesus.Stay strong. Also, it's great to put a face with the name. Stay strong! Mr.L Queens That's what I meant when I asked everyone to consider donating. They need us man. I donated money too. I'm thinking of volunteering with my medical background. Keep praying. @Robzz You are right about the blood shortage but I mean't money but I just read an update saying that they are running out of supplies so blood, money, clothing, food is perfectly perfect. I picked the Redcross because I felt like it's trustworthy enough to ensure that the money actually goes to the victims. I don't want anymore hurricane Katrina scams. Also, the first reports said that they had sent only 200,000 dollars in relief. I was like, those people are going to need more than that. Peace Everyone

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  5.   BEAUTYBEYONDWORDS says:
    Posted: 14 Jan 10

    I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!! SO MANY PEOPLE GIVE UP ON THESE YOUNG CATS IN THERE, BUT I WALK BY FAITH AND NOT BY SIGHT! THEY NEED POSITIVE ROLE MODELS AND THEY NEED MEN TO STAND UP AND BE MEN AND TEACH, TRAIN AND MOTIVATE THE NEXT GENERATION. OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE LOST MAN! BUT GOD.... HE'S ABLE TO DO EXCEEDING ABUNDANTLY ABOVE ALL THAT WE CAN ASK OR THINK...ACCORDING TO THE POWER THAT WORKETH IN US!

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  6.   zcrider01 says:
    Posted: 14 Jan 10

    I have been sitting back and watching these posts go back and forth, back and forth for quite some time now. It has gotten to the point where when I get an email stating there has been another comment, I just simply delete it without even reading it. MRLAUREL....or whatever your name is... Some beautiful black woman must of ripped your heart out of your chest and stomped on it. To put the icing on the cake, she must have also through your heart into a meat grinder by leaving you for a white man!! This is the only explanation for a man who claims to be so "BLACK" yet take up so much of his time bashing black women who choose to date white men. I feel sorry for you because it must be hard to sit back and carry the load of hatred that you have in your heart. I feel sorry for you because you are a walking timebomb ready to explode on any interracial couple that you see. YOU, my man, are a poor example of an educated black man. In case you havent heard in all these years, being black is an honor and a privilege and YOU have flunked! You need some counseling in order to help you fully understand why you are carrying around all of this hatred. You need counseling to help you deal with the loss that you obviously have had and cant seem to let go. Yes, I am sure that you will burn your keyboard up responding to this one...but go right ahead, maybe it will take your mind off of the love that you lost so long ago....TO A WHITE MAN!! Kisses!!

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  7.   Member says:
    Posted: 14 Jan 10

    Man I sent money to the Haiti victims. I am praying for the victims. Beauty you are a strong woman to work in Jail Ministry. They need more black women like you. Tatt needs guidance from you. You can also thank Tatt for my new album. It is dedicated to all the desperate sellout black women that learned from my blog and turned their lived around. "THANK ME LATER" (Full length blog Album) Hit singles "Act like a Lady ft Mrs Kitty" "HIGHER than ever been" "Born to win" "I finally made it" "Blog famous ft Rocky" "My blog will be alright if I put Julia on every hook" (Bonus track) LOL http://www.mrlaureltonqueens.blogspot.com/

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  8.   BEAUTYBEYONDWORDS says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    WHAT ABOUT THE BIG BANG THEORY? OR THE EVOLUTION? HMMM...OUT OF THE BOX - I WOULD SAY SO! I DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE BELIEVE OR DON'T BELIEVE, CUZ I KNOW MY REDEEMER LIVETH! I WASN'T RAISED IN CHURCH, BUT I BELIEVED IN GOD. WHEN TROUBLES SEEM TO BECOME MORE THAN YOU....AND YOU FIND YOURSELF IN SITUATIONS THAT SEEM UNSOLVABLE... WHAT DO YOU DO? SO MANY CHOOSE TO TAKE THEIR OWN LIVES, BECAUSE NO ONE TOLD THEM THAT... JOY COMES IN THE MORNING...OR THAT THE LORD WILL FIGHT YOUR BATTLE... OR TO TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND LEAN NOT TO YOUR UNDERSTAND, BUT IN ALL YOUR WAYS TRUST IN THE LORD AND HE SHALL DIRECT YOUR PATH!!!! THE JOY COMES THOUGH....WHEN YOU DO IT...YOU TRUST HIM AND YOU SEE HOW HE MAKES THE CROOKED PATHS STRAIGHT IN YOUR LIFE!!!!!

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  9.   BEAUTYBEYONDWORDS says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    GOD HAS TRULY BEEN GOOD TO ME... HE IS NOT SHORT OF HIS WORD! I DO JAIL MINISTRY AND I TOLD THE INMATES TO SAY LIVE BY THIS IN 2010... " IN 2010 - WITH JESUS- I WILL WIN! " ON DEC 16TH - THE LORD BLESS ME WITH 33YRS!!!!! I AM JUST EXCITED!!!!!

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  10.   BEAUTYBEYONDWORDS says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    CHECK YOU OUT LAURELTON.... YES BIGEYES.... I MEAN JESUS ALL THE WAY!!!!! AIN'T NO STOPPIN ME NOW.....

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  11.   Robzz says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    Ichibod, I think atheists or "non-believers" feel as though we think more outside of the box after we learn about history. Such as the Theory of Heliocentricity which states that the Earth orbits the sun and not vice versa. Which at the time of its discovery, was rejected by mainstream religion. And then when Kepler discovered that it was an elliptical path that the Earth took around the sun, the mainstream was opposed to that too. Atheists on the other hand, have seemed to have a greater appreciation for these kinds of discoveries, and a sense of exhilaration at the discovery of being wrong about something we thought for long to just be so, while religious people tend to be more offended because it conflicts with their faith in things that they long so much to be true. As far as modern mainstream religion, this is no longer an everyday conflict to scientists, since Bishops and Priests everywhere have tendency to accept these universal truths as they are discovered. Most Bishops and Priests accept the Theory of Evolution as fact, and that Adam and Eve are just mere methaphor's for early human existence, and that they did not themselves exist. They are just tools used to teach "Original Sin." But then go on to give sermons and teachings that don't explain this to their mass. It's no wonder there are so many misinformed religious people. In order to think out of the box, it is important to have an understanding of the boundaries of that box, and how something outside relates to what's inside. Without a factual foundation, and unwillingness to accept the scientific method, it is possible to think outside of the box, but not necessarily effective or useful. bigeyes, Yeah my area has been begging for blood before that even happened! We are so short on blood and platelets here in the Baltimore/Washington area.

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  12.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    @Ichibod Well said! Everyone, please consider going to the American Red Cross's website to donate to help Haiti earthquake victims. It's the first thing on their homepage. Peace

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  13.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    Exactly, 85kguy. That's why I wanted to make sure Robzz knew that if I felt as though my faith were being attacked at the beginning of this discussion, it wasn't by him. Some of the posts I read were like hearing a gay porn actor swear that he was really heterosexual. "I am just an actor and it was all for the money. I get nothing out of it." Tatts, Christians call themselves "bible thumpers" all the time. That's what they're supposed to do, afterall. Thinking outside of the box is what has many of us calling ourselves Christians. Believing in something we can't see and stuff that hasn't yet happened? How much more "out of the box" can you get. MustangDave, If you have anything to contribute to the topic, by all means, please do so.

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  14.   e-dub says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    Dear Robs; Good luck on finding the woman of your dreams

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  15.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    Never allow folk to move you away from praising and promoting your Christian faith. That is an insult. It is best to show people your Christian character and the personal image you want to project to them. The more you show it the more they respect it.

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  16.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    Anyways , I'm satisfied. Moving on and up. Peace

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  17.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    I agree that that there are those who are not practicing what they preach. This needs to stop and stop today. On the other hand there are people who ARE making it their business to live by the examples Jesus set. Not everyone is "playing church"or playing it as "card"??? Are you serious??? "race card"?? That's another subject. Anyways, there are many who are living according what Jesus taught and not "religion". There's a difference. "Religion" is easy, following Jesus will make people angry with you. Peace

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  18.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 13 Jan 10

    Lesson's learned, last Sunday at the small Baptist Church I go to, the preacher mentioned somthing in his sermon. So many southern churches have funds to help, over sea churches that are mostly Black, hmmmm but some where in their charters it will say white only in the church. So as we can see it is an ongoing process,with no end. Like I mentioned earlier the religion card is played more than the race card. Now we really should get off this topic, and get back to the intent of the blog. I will admit that I did really enjoy reading the post. Maybe we should open a new White & Black religion, as I once heard from a news caste the most segerated day in the week. Again Blessings to all Scoff

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  19.   Member says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Hey beauty Happy 2010. Somebody said what does "religion" have to do with dating. Well, it can be a very important aspect for "any" woman that is dating a man. It makes her feel you have a moral compass in life. Like Scoff said the church is more than just worshiping god for a majority of black women. The "dilemma" for many women is that many men have stopped going to church. But the recession has slightly changed that. More men are going to church in these struggling times. I also would change calling Ich and Big eyes religious zealots. I would say "firm" on their religion as they should be. I am firm on my religion also but I can question the theory of evolution. What does trouble me is when religion enters in secular life. Fine, you don't believe in abortion. But you will take away the "right" of a woman to have one. I don't believe in that. People say "well your killing the baby". Perhaps that is true or it is not depending on conception. Do you think it is right to force a woman to have a baby and give it away for adoption to struggle in life? You won't pour money into social services for struggling mothers but you will stand on a picket line "saying no to abortion" every weekend at Planned parenthood. You dumb sons of bitches. Spend your time at a group home for struggling mothers. Donate some money to help them out. You got a sign talking about "no abortion". Society is strange. I remember when I was engaged back when I was 21 and my fiancee at the time was pregnant. We was both in college, anyway she went to Planned Parenthood without me because I had to work. So the nurse says to her "aw" don't worry many fathers don't stick around. So my fiancee calls me and says "she thought I was some knocked up teenage black girl without my child's father around. I was embarrassed. I thought it was funny at the time. Then the abortion protesters were yelling at the white girls but not the black girls. This is just my observation. Maybe they were afraid. I don't know to this day. Anyway, people need to address these third world countries with a booming baby rates that is starving or on the brink of dying of disease. Just because "religion" says don't use a condom. Catholic religion does not believe in contraceptives. So yea, there is issues in religion that people really overlook here. I am for the positive message of Christianity but we are not practicing what we preach. Mr Rob has opened up a good discussion. Good day.

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  20.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Robzz, Please don't say that. That is NOT what I'm about. You seem not to want to believe that I'm not against your perpective. I agree that this maybe isn't the right thread for religion but honestly, I was responding more to your frustration than anything. I'll say it again, I want you to find what you are looking for and I know you will because it's out there. Trust me, it takes more than what's said on here to cause me to "blow up" or any kind of pain. The power to do that just doesn't reside on here. Peace

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  21.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Jumping in, religion and the black woman, having viewed this first hand, I must say that the Church is a very important part of their life. Besides being a source of spirtual content, it serves as a network for information, politcal, as well as community news. Now when you are invovled with a person take the whole package, not just bits and pieces. As far as being an aethis, good luck in the here after. (Humor) Now for a little incident that happen in my youth. I had two friends that were the rogue types, always pushing the limits with the law. After doing some heavy duty plundering in a local farmer's barn, they were walking down a back road. A local law officer, stopped to questions them about the incident. Allen the older of the two answered all the questions, to the officers satisfaction, summing up his long winded dialogue with officer we are good Christen boys we would never do anything like that. Allen knew the officer was a deacon in a local chruch so he thought he would play the religion card. His partner in crime,Tony was a very smart boy, but had a problem with going to chruch all the time and wanted to always argue religious points. Well the officer seeing the chance to save two souls asked the boys if they have been saved. Tony started into one of his long tirades about religion and what the hell did it have to do with them, and by damn it was none of the man's bussiness if they were saved or not. Well one thing led into another and the officer arrested the boys, and later they were found guilty. To this day Allen is still mad about Tony not keeping his mouth shut on the religious thing, both are still local rogues. The whole point is I've seen, alot people use their religion to fit the situation, ( like Allen) Any way just an old man throwing his nickle in. Blessing to all Scoff

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  22.   Robzz says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Hey MustangDave, Is that any kind of play on Dave Mustaine's name? Yeah I'm just being a royal pain in the azz to bigeyes. I've never run into any other problems with interracial dating...the only problems were the interfaith parts of it. I'm sorry this turned into like the last 40 posts on here. What's up Tatt?

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  23.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Beauty, Hey kiddo! You are right to say a LONG time! You came in kicked butt and left, LOL. I hope eveything is going great for you and even more blessings in 2010. I hope you are still staying strong. Peace unto you

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  24.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Beauty, Hey kiddo! You are right to say a LONG time! You came in kicked butt and left, LOL. I hope eveything is going great for you and even more blessings in 2010. I hope you are still staying strong. Peace unto

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  25.   BEAUTYBEYONDWORDS says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    HAPPY NEW YEAR- EVERYONE!!!!! HEY MR. LAURELTON...TATTED....BIGEYES.... HAVEN'T BEEN ON THIS WEBSITE IN SUCH A LONG TIME....WANTED TO DROP IN AND SAY HELLO!!!!

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  26.   MustangDave says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Can we move off the religious aspect of inter-racial dating. And can we move off the BS back and forth dribble being thrown back and forth on here as well.....

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  27.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Aethiest- one who does not believe in the existence of a Supreme being,ie. God. Breakdown-does... NOT=NON... BELIEVE=...NON-BELIEVER. LOL. It's ok to label people what they label themselves. Especially, if they say numerous times that they don't believe in God and state that they are an aethiest. Logic people, come on, stay with me, LOL. Utopic thinking really does cause a disconnect...JUST A THOUGHT...LOL. But seriously... Mr. L.Queens, I don't mind being label a religious zealot. I'm comfortable with my faith in Christ. Robs can think out of whatever box he likes but if he hadn't come to the conclusion about trying to date believers in Christ and expecting not to run into problems about his aethism...he had another thought coming. I'm glad though that he did come to his own conclusion about what he thinks he needs to do in his future dating. Great. I'm not opposed to anyone's perpective but I have mine too. Peace

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  28.   Robzz says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Thanks Laurelton. I feel like we agree 100 percent on the issue regarding religion and religious differences. Only thing that's different than you and me, is that I believe there isn't a God and you believe there is. I really am accepting and in agreement with people that God could exist. I just have the stipulation that if he exists, he has no idea we're here, and probably doesn't care either. lol This all started because my issue was because of the negative press that the word "atheist" brings and what is meant by "non-believer" as Tatt pointed out. I do believe in something, I believe this all "just happened" and that there is "no God" to put it in layman's terms. I asked this question on here originally because I wanted an answer as to why. I still don't agree with the answer, but I accept it as truth. Finding somebody with compatible views is the obvious ticket to success, I just wanted to know why it's such a big deal. I'm not satisfied, but thanks to everyone for the help, I am a little bit more satiated. I threw that passage from Exodus in there because I was using a tactic called "cherry picking" or even "quote mining" if you will back on y'all. I guess it didn't have an effect on you, just as it doesn't have an effect on me when you do it. After all, evolution is "just a theory"

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  29.   Member says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Dear Robs You are a good man to withstand the "storm" of the religious zealots such as Bigeyes and Ichibold. Of course with all due respect. Robs I was born into the christian religion. Anytime, you want to "think out of the box" people throw "man written" bible scripture at you. If you listen to the Black Israelites in Brooklyn or Manhattan. They can read scripture backwards and forward on you. Basically they say black people are the original Jews and are very accurate on scripture when it comes to Christianity. But the average "person", regardless of color will dismiss them as angry black men. Sort of similar as to what they are doing to you Mr Rob. Some black people should know better considering Europeans introduced Christianity to the darker races to conquer them.I forgot the Mel Gibson movie I saw about the Mayan Empire I think it was. Anyway, can't bother looking it up. Bottom line I believe in God, but scripture can always be "interpreted " in a different way. For example, some prophets had multiple wives. So why I can't have two black wives? I assume the modern day "congregation" would look down on that. Give you another example, Mormons use to marry girls when they were 14 years old. Modern day, they throw your ass into prison for that. Therefore you must compromise your beliefs because of people "who tell you" what scripture to believe. Now back to dating. Listen, in every black church, black women make up the MAJORITY. It is much more than religion for black women. It is a place to socialize and "talk". Make networks of friends and etc. Mr Rob you look at the situation all wrong. I remember growing up my mother took me to choir practice every damn THURSDAY. They didn't sing much but they sure gossip endlessly. They did pull it together come Sabbath and sang their little hearts out. Anyway, just giving my perspective on it. I wasn't even going to talk about Tatt. She liked being fondled in church and I think I was one of the boys. Good day to everyone.

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  30.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    I see you all did "continue on"...whooo...lol. Hopefully we can get back to some banter where people aren't labled "NON-BELIEVERS" (we all know what kind of connotation that term has......pfft) and the like.....(I wonder who would blow up over me calling others "Bible-thumpers"....hmmm....JUST A THOUGHT). Peace and Blessings tatted2death

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  31.   MzBrOwNSuGaR says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    To Mr Laurelton Queens: I am just now discovering this blog and I am sure there are some posts that I have missed. I will first say I love black men, and to be honest, to me, they are the sexiest, most attractive creatures GOD has made, and yes I would love to find that right one. Having said that, I have also met some who were not black, but good and decent, and I have felt attraction to as well. You so often use the term "sell out black women",when I think everyone can see the large number of black men who have turned to white women, especially the black men who are famous and/or wealthy. It is not just wealthy black men, and also the very young boys are with white females. I can count on one hand the number of black male/black female wedding announcements I see in my local newspaper each year. You mentioned the white men wanting the black woman for sex. The fact that black women do have so many black babies with absent fathers certainly prove that some black men are no different from the white man in that regard. My question is, given the fact black men have gone to white women, and the large percentage that are incarcerated, on or selling drugs, gay, or already married or spoken for, all narrows the number of available perspective black male partners, how is she a sell out if she has to look outside of her race for a relationship? Statistics show that the black woman is the least married of all races, male or female. What exactly does she sell out by not remaining alone, to appease someone else who doesn't like interracial relationships? And, when we all have the freedom and right to have our own likes and dislikes, tastes and preferences, are we supposed to abandon that right for the same above reason?

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  32.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    @Ichibod AHHH ya killin me,LOL.Thanks. Those words coming from you, a true scholar means a great deal. You really don't know! You always knock it out the park yourself Ichibod! You lit a fire under me. Hey, be my guess, use it,LOL. Peace

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  33.   Teesa says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    @ bigeyes31 I never said it invalidated anyone's positive experience. That is why I said if it is for you then good for you. Don't try to twist what I said. I am happy you are having a good experience. Really I am. Interesting. PEACE :)

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  34.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    You are a bad girl, Natalie! I still remember the time you had to remind that one blogger that she was not the moderator of the site. Classic! "Objective met." I'm going to use that from now on.

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  35.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    @Ichibod, Cool. I knew you would get here soon, LOL. This is the danger in nonbelievers taking small passages from the bible and totally taking it out of context. That's why I kept saying, you have to first BELIEVE. I don't think you or I felt attacked. He posed certain questions and musings and got answers. Maybe not to his liking but nontheless. Peace

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  36.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    @Teesa Well, if it doesn't apply to you then it doesn't apply to me. People who choose to believe ALSO have their own mind and heart to guide them. That was YOUR experience. Other people have experienced something different. Your bad experience doesn't invalidate their positive one. Robs, by HIS own admission, understood the point I was making to him about finding those women that share his views so that he won't experience what he went through again. So, I'm satisfied. Objective met. Peace

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  37.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Bigeyes, I was just reading that and you got to it before me. King James Version doesn't say "slaves" in that passage. It's not about owning slaves, it's about measures of discipline and idiots who go overboard with it. The same goes for merely spanking children and down right abusing them. Like I said earlier, this is where sifting through laws that don’t apply to us get us. As for the "oppressor's religion" thing, I guess we blacks shouldn't be learning in the oppressor's schools, drinking from the oppressor's water fountains, and dating/marrying the oppressors either. Again, a non-believer is wasting their time reading the Bible. At times, it's not even a matter of not understanding it, some people are just too skeptical which is why it was compiled for believers. Read Jesus's parable about the sower and the seed. Non-believers are the stony ground, where the seed falls, but cannot take root. Nice one, Azrazyel! Glad to see you back. I was thinking the same thing at first. I still think so. How are things with you and your lady? Robzz, I just want you to know that my posts were not directed toward you. If I were to feel as though my faith were being attack earlier, it was not by you. I view athiest websites and watch videos from athiests amd agnostics on YouTube all the time. I stopped so YouTube would stop suggesting them to me whenever I logged on. I see their points much like a gambler would. "I see you, and raise you 50." Every point that a non-believer makes has already been covered in the Bible which is why we believe and many non-believers begin to. By the way, welcome to the site. You should find it's many search options and filters very helpful in finding the best choices. Good luck! Okay, seriously now. Let's get back to the topic. There are religion threads on this site. This particular thread is not one of them. However, I did have fun for a minute.

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  38.   Teesa says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    No it doesn't apply to me. I have my own mind and heart to guide me. I grew up in the church. People tried to make me believe what they wanted me to believe. When I asked questions they told me not to question it just follow it. I lived with the hypocrites and sat next to them on the pews during church service. I lived the life and saw the real and true way of religion. At first, I thought it was only my religion and decided to try others. There was no difference in the way they taught their beliefs. It was follow me and don't question it and believe what I show you. The bible was written and edited by men. So how can it be without flaws? I believe that if religion keeps your soul happy and a good person then so be it but no one has the right to tell someone they are going to be doomed if some religion isn't a part of their life. I own my soul. I own my destiny. I own my mistakes. I own my victories. I lived the religious experience and it isn't for me. I finally listened to my inner voice, regained my freedom and haven't looked back with regret.

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  39.   e-dub says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Robs, Good luck

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  40.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    @Teesa The same goes for you too.

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  41.   Teesa says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    @bigeyes31 "People will give you idealistic thinking disguised as objectivity ,but not truthful answers." The same goes for you too.

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  42.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    @Robs I'm glad you signed up. Good luck. As fas as that passage in Exodus. This particular book was an account of the Iraelites oppression by the Egyptians and also when the left Egypt. It also contains ordinances of how they were to GOVERN themselves once they formed their own community after leaving Egypt. They were not slaves, they were Hebrew servants.Hebrews working for Hebrews,again nothing like Europeans. Very much like indentured servants and were to be treated well, NOTHING like how Europeans treated black SLAVES. Indentured servants were indeed the property of the employer until that service period was up. No different than being fired, written up or pay docked in today's work world. Just happens to be a different type punishment in those days according to , or as it pertainded to THEIR customs and culture. After seven years they were to be released from their service, again NOTHING like what Europeans did to blacks. You can believe or not believe in the bible. It's really , really your choice. I won't go on and on defending the bible because I don't have to. It speaks for itself. I'm glad you seem to get what I'm saying about accepting that people are brave enough and objective enough to read the Bible in faith and humility in a time where believing in God is considered silly. There are many and will be many more. I think by my giving a REALISTIC hypothesis for why Christianity played such a large role in the girls end decision, WAS the most objective approach on here. I'm not one to tell you what I think you want to hear because in my opinion(only an opinon) that might not help you avoid the pain of another situation like that. People will give you idealistic thinking disguised as objectivity ,but not truthful answers. I truly don't want you to feel condemned at all, on the contrary! I want you to be freed up from the pain of what happened. That's my only reason for even posting this much. I wish you the best and want you to find that person that gets YOU. That's all anybody wants Robs. Peace

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  43.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    It's cool Robzz. Whatever floats your boat. lol I was just stating what I thought I saw, Teesa. No hard feelings. It appeared to me at least that it was another reason to not date a certain race. I respect your experiences and I wish the best for ya. It initially seemed as one of those excuses people make up to justify their means...white woman saying "all white men have small penises" etc. lol

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  44.   Teesa says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    I never said once that I decided to start dating white men because of religious reasons. Dating is for getting to know a person. Dating doesn't mean that you will have a long term relationship with that person regardless of race. I was simply stating my experience. Don't try to twist my words. Wow... I am real and what you read is what I mean.

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  45.   Robzz says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Thanks Teesa! Azrazyel... I could honestly say that most white woman that I have met either have views very similar to mine, or Do not take religion seriously... I don't use that as an excuse to date white girls! I'm actually quite surprised that only one person on here recommend I don't date black girls (e-dub) I thought that was the obvious answer and only e-dub came up with it! It's cool e-dub For me it's as if all black girls are religious and as if all white girls are not...although I know that's not true... so I can see where Teesha is coming from. But I'm still tryna date black girls! that hasn't changed

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  46.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    Teesa: While I respect your choices in dating and religion, I think it's kinda dumb to say "I noticed while dating black men that most were into christianity or some other form of religion." If you're not interested in religious people, shouldn't that be a clear indication that you would find that out before committing to them? Sounds like an excuse not to date black men. As if all black men are religious? As if all white men aren't religious? Jeesh,it's so easy to see through words and find the meaning of what you're trying to say. Next time maybe try and make it harder to read?

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  47.   Teesa says:
    Posted: 12 Jan 10

    I am a black female who was raised as a minister's daughter in christianity. I believe in karma and that we all have souls but dislike religion and have no interest in it now. I have been judged because of my disbelief but feel like my life is about my happiness. I noticed while dating black men that most were into christianity or some other form of religion. It was hard for me to connect with them because of it. My boyfriend is white and he grew up Catholic but doesn't believe in religion. We have been together for over two years and it has been the best relationship ever. So Robzz you will find the right woman for you. I am living proof that their are black women that share your views.

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  48.   Robzz says:
    Posted: 11 Jan 10

    Hey it's Robs again. I just signed up. Thanks tatted2death! I just wanted to defend myself. I said this before and I'll say it again. I have indeed read the Bible cover to cover, as well as the Qu'ran from cover to cover. And I have read even more books supporting atheism. How many Christians can say that? That girl is Christian. I choose to use Christianity as an example because I am born and raised Christian and most people I'm talking to and about tend to be Christian. Only difference is I don't believe it. Mr. Laurelton Queens, thanks for reading my posts objectively and defending me. As I read what people are saying here, I am coming to the realization that bigeyes31 is probably right about my position in the world of dating and relationships. I require somebody that is able to see things just as objectively as me, and if she needs a belief in God to lean on and needs even more for me to believe as to be able to make some sort of connection with me, then she is not for me. My frustration stemmed from the fact that I don't give a rats butt what my partner believes, but they tend care about what I do or don't believe. If a woman says she only wants a moral, loving man and thats all she wants and she finds that in me but then rejects me because I don't believe...then that is her problem. She is not for me, that is craziness, irrational, and not someone I'd want raising my offspring anyway. I took my Bible off the shelf and opened it to one of my favorite pages. Not favorite because I believe it, favorite because It makes me scratch my head til it bleeds. Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20: If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. Right there in the Bible it says that it is okay to own slaves, beat slaves, etc. And there's more examples of this stuff. I don't get how I can be brave enough, objective enough, and moral enough by my own devices to reject a book that says that, and then get condemned for feeling that way. If there is one thing I could ask all of Black people in America as a whole, and get back an honest, real answer. It would be: "Why on Earth did you accept your oppressor's religion?" I just want to know. Dr. Fleming and Dr. Florey wanted to know how some people can be "miraculously cured" or why some of the bacteria samples in their lab had all died and why some didn't. If they were religious, they may have just said "Oh My God it was a miracle!" or "By Jove!" But they did not, they objectively looked at the evidence and discovered Penicillin. It is people like this that are going to someday cure cancer and AIDS, people that got man on the moon, people that made things like iPods, HDTV, and just about everything we take for granted in everyday life possible. I have the potential to accomplish something great with my life, and I require a woman that is strong enough to stand behind me through it. So even if she is religious, she's at least got to be able to see eye to eye with me on something like that. PPeeeacceee

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  49.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 11 Jan 10

    It is, what is. Peace

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  50.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 11 Jan 10

    FYI, PEOPLE..Objectively reading does NOT = SUPPORTING....but whatever...LOL....continue on.

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