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Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   uniquelydeey says:
    Posted: 21 Oct 09

    wow...talk about alot of heated drama and debate pertaining to the "black woman/white man" relationships! i've read this blog from top to bottom! it amazes me how peoples attitudes differ so vastly when it comes to this matter. i am an educated 30's black woman who is gainfully employed, am completely independent in the financial sense), and have been attracted to white men all of my life, and have strictly dated accordingly for quite a few years now. however, upon moving from my native state (texas) i've found it extremely hard to find white men who are truly "black serious" vs merely "black curious". i've asked several of them that i've dated/associated with what their attraction is (which, by the way, i've been the first black woman alot of them have ever dealt with on any level outside of "hi"/"bye"), and i seem to get the same responses over and over...either "i'm attracted to how beautiful their tanned skin is and their sexy bodies", or "i want to know if what i've heard is true"..that seems to be the depth of it. granted, i'm a visual creature as well, but i've gotten so disgusted with the narrow-mindedness, i've resorted to online methods and meeting men outside of my area. if i'm asked what my attraction is to white men, yes, looks will be in the answer, but i'm also able to give a more in-depth answer as well. so, just a little statement to all the white men who ARE "black serious", THANK YOU...for being real with yourselves, following your hearts, and not giving a dang what your families or society might think! kudos!! :-)

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  2.   parables says:
    Posted: 19 Oct 09

    I think it is a sad day for women when we have to make "competition comments" like "black women are better than white women" It turns my stomach.... One of my best friends is white and is one of the most beautiful people I've ever known...not just physically...her ESSENCE! People like what they like...period. I'm just thrilled to pieces that I can date or marry who I want REGARDLESS of color. Come on, Surely we are ABOVE classless comments like this. Moving on....

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  3.   bealvly says:
    Posted: 17 Oct 09

    Hello Scoff and Sarah. You have no idea how my husband and I have been blessed by you sharing your beautiful story with us. It has strengthened us, uplifted us, and made us smile. My husband and I met online. We had both put a profile on the yahoo personals website within weeks of each other.....just on a whim. He contacted me, we chatted for a couple of weeks, and then decided to meet. The amazing thing was that we had lived right around the corner from each other for 18 years, and didn't even know it! We've been together every since. I hope that everyone has a blessed and safe weekend. bealvly

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  4.   Mulwany says:
    Posted: 15 Oct 09

    i love all you gorgeous women... I dont think I have a need to explain the differences between us... 'cause all i feel is desire and good will... please, would you beauties talk to me, just a word or two? bi promise you i'm sincere...

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  5.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 14 Oct 09

    Scoff/Sarah, Sarah, thank you for the kind words regarding my writing. I appreciate your encouragement, it makes me smile. You and Scoff have shared with me, now I will share with you. My fictional tale is not that long, as it is the shortened version of the novel. I will tell what can be told in the teasing...So, let's try to pick up where we left off. I will begin, again, at the beginning with Kaye's account first... Kaye - Preface I am black, he is white; he is Jewish, I am not, I am older, he is younger, he wants children, mine are grown. We are perfect for each other and totally wrong for each other. We could not be more opposite. Through the adversity, our love for each other has not diminished. ***** To be continued ***** And that, My Dear Sarah, is where I leave it for now. Give my regards to Scoff, and until the next time... With much respect and love, always... SE

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  6.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 14 Oct 09

    Scoff/Sarah, Sarah, it's so good to see that you have decided to return, I really missed you and I was worried about you, and sad that you were feeling sad!!! No need to apologize, you've done nothing wrong, you and Scoff are kind and considerate people, which is what we all should strive for, not only here but in our everyday life. Sarah, on October 6th, I left you my e-mail address. If you look further up this page you will see it. You can always write me via, e-mail, I would love to hear from you. So write it down this time(smile). My e-mail is oui2luv@yahoo.com. Where is Scoff today? Please send him my best. I hope you both and your families are well. I'm enjoying the beautiful colors of Autumn, my favorite season! love godiva

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  7.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 14 Oct 09

    So true my dear friend, it's good to be back, if possible can you you give me just a little tease, from your novel. Ms. Bealvly would you be kind of enough to share how you and your husband met, I'm sure that it would be different than how Scoff and I met, lolo. Again Ms. Wilde I wish I had your writing skills, such a gift. Blessing to all Love Sarah

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  8.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 14 Oct 09

    Scoff/Sarah, I am glad to see your return. He has no desire to dominate this site, he just wants to destroy any dialog between black women and white men, period. He has his own blog. He can do that there, nobody is interested in that here. By him arguing with everybody, it stops the dialog between people who want to communicate with one another. If you don't respond to him, he can do nothing. Why let that happen? Ignore him, he has no power over you. SE

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  9.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 14 Oct 09

    My dearest friends; Please accept my sincere apology for not posting, as I let my emotions over come common sense. Now that I have calmed down, I realize that I miss all of you so much. Ms. Godiva, Ms. SE Wilde, Ms. SA, and all those that I missed please forgive me. I miss our daily conversations too much to let a certain person run me off. Maybe one day we will understand why he has such a strong desire to dominate this site. Perhaps this is the only place he can vent insecurties, I guess only God knows. I know Scoff mentioned that we went fishing, oh what a day just he and I in the boat, the Gulf is so beautiful this time of the year. I could of caught more fish but Mr. Scoff said he didn't want to clean that many lololo. I love you all of you Love Sarah

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  10.   otherbrother says:
    Posted: 14 Oct 09

    Queens Good try, but no dice I didn’t say it was to complicated, I said I was to complicated for you. There’s a difference, which is obviously the case, If you can not comprehend the simple stuff the difficult stuff is just a waste of time. So now you admit you’re also a criminal watching bootleg movies is illegal, that might be too complicated for you to understand also though. I make no excuses I am just telling you how it is, I can not help that the truth hurts. If it hurts that much than stop posting otherwise just suck it up. I have not back tracked on anything, I only give you credit for the 10% of the time your right. That is not back tracking that is just giving you credit when your right. I can not help that you are wrong the majority of the time. Do not cry to me about your inability to debate me on facts that is your problem not mine. Good Day, Sir

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  11.   bealvly says:
    Posted: 13 Oct 09

    I discovered this blog by chance, and I have found it to be very enlightening, refreshing, sometimes disturbing, but overall very good. I am a black woman who has always been attracted to and dated white men. My husband of seven years is wonderful tall, handsome, blue-eyed white man. He has always treated me with utmost love, kindness, respect, encouragement for my goals and achievements. He is my greatest cheerleader, and my dearest best friend. He is a wonderful provider, a phenomenal , passionate lover, and makes many sacrifices in order for me to continue to entend my career in education. Thank you so much Sarah and Scoff for sharing your beautiful story with us. We are from the south, southwest Ga., so I understand perfectly well of what you speak..but it is true, love conquers all. GOD bless to all. I love you my sisters! bealvly

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  12.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 13 Oct 09

    "This is how a person sounds when they are defeated. They start saying things like ” oh it’s to complicated”. I won’t debate you because it’s like “taking candy from a baby”." Otherbrother said: "...as I stated before the very obvious, Ichibod is racist and bitter. I could write for hours with examples however we will never agree. So me discussing this issue any further is really irrelavant." You can write for hours and no one will agree because it isn't true. You do not have, nor has anyone ever seen any examples of anything racist from me on this site... ever! I said: (16 April 2009 - Black Women Have No Option) "The first wave is all I can do… to be fair. Any further warfare would be like murder, hate crime, or just down right taking candy from a baby and, shoving it down its throat, laughing while it chokes to death." And you think I'm bitter? You're a biter. Azrazyel said: "Hey, I don’t take anyone with no picture/profile hidden seriously. I mean you could be arguing with a 12 year old kid for all I know. Haha" And: "If this was a white woman I was talking to or any other race, I suppose I wouldn’t be black or have my brother’s pic, now would I?" (I really wanted to hear your answer to that.) Otherbrother copied: "Are you really black person and just posted a white persons photo? I know, maybe your 15 and posted your older brothers photo." I still want to know what that means, especially after you calling ME a racist. Stop trying to act like a badass and use your own material for once. Please, just go love your wife, raise your kids up to be smart, respectable people, and stop slandering folks that admit to misunderstanding one of your poorly constructed posts. Ichibod said: (1 August 2009) "I wasn’t arguing with you. You’re right, your punctuation needs work because that’s exactly why I misunderstood your comment. Open-mindedness includes giving someone the benefit of a doubt." And again: "I will admit, your missing punctuation mark had me misunderstand what you were saying entirely and my comment was not to you, anyway." Otherbrother said: "...again the question was why white men love black women, only White men who love black women can answer that..." Can you answer why there are so many black women answering that question then? Otherbrother let slip out of his butt: "I am this blog because of people who spread lies about why white men and black women are open to dating and marrying, and to encourage other white men to understand that all black women are not opposed to dating inter racially." Republican Joe Wilson said: "YOU LIE!!!!" You've done nothing more than flame Mr Laurelton Queens and give shout-outs to all the black ladies here. Does your wife know you're doing this? You can be reading your kids a book or something right now or massaging your wife's back or feet. Get your act together, and furthermore get your facts straight.

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  13.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 13 Oct 09

    Dear Otherbrother You are making excuses. If it makes you "feel good", than you taught me something. This is how a person sounds when they are defeated. They start saying things like " oh it's to complicated". I won't debate you because it's like "taking candy from a baby". Listen you backtracked on half of what you said. You don't even know why you said the "Family court system" should be overhauled until I said it. If you were so smart you would have countered my arguments. But it is always easy to safe face and complain like you are doing now lol. By the way, I saw his movies on bootleg. I wouldn't pay money for that crap. I will stop picking on you because it's not fair anymore. You haven't proved to me how women have contributed to rich men being rich. That was the original argument you failed to formulate an answer for. LOL Good luck smartest guy in the room.

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  14.   otherbrother says:
    Posted: 12 Oct 09

    Queens, Amazing you got another one right, I am out of your league, my posts have been on point I continue to prove you wrong time and time again, it’s like I am the teacher and you are the student. I can not go any further with the debate because you are having a hard time understanding the simple facts, the more complicated ones are obviously out of your league. I think some people us a phrase similar to this. Debating with you is like me taking candy from a kid, they do not have the life skills I have. As I said before I give you credit you stand in the ring and continue to take a beating, but you keep coming back for more, there are a lot of hard headed men like you, I believe eventually though you will come around. You seem not to have a problem with his movies; it is obvious you support what you believe his intent is, I mean paying to see his movies is supporting him. Do not worry I will continue to debate with you, see I know I am not the smartest guy on this blog, but you make me look like a genius

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  15.   SimplyMe says:
    Posted: 12 Oct 09

    I will SEWilde... I will, .. He is like a blind sniper.. shooting off bullets at every sound but missing the target 99.9% of the time, just wasting pointless ammo. But first - Queens: 1) YOU were the one initiating this with me by making a snyde rude remark, that I called you on. 2) I never stuck my so called fat nose in your discussion with otherbrother - I only commented on stuff you wrote to me..nothing else.. But clearly you cant keep your arguments separated.. contradicting yourself at every turn, you sound like a preteen. Resorting to critizise spelling doesnt make you win anything, it just shows how pathetic you are, but thanks for the entertainment. You can simmer all you want in your negativity and stereotyping.. have at it... Troll away... Later... NOT :-)

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  16.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 12 Oct 09

    Kingpin78, SimplyMe, Otherbrother, Scoff/Sarah, Have you ever thought about just ignoring all together, someone who insults you, instead of arguing at all? Just asking. SE

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  17.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Dear Kingpin I live in PA. I would go why not. Is it a big wedding? PA is boring. Williamsport PA It does get repetitive here. Give me your myspace or facebook name. Take it easy

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  18.   kingpin78 says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Mr. Queens.....hey isnt this getting old? Arent you tired of arguing with people on this silly website? I didnt go on here for like 8 months, i come back and you still sayin the same shyt. It's kinda ridiculous isnt it? I mean, think about it. oh, and btw, me and my beautiful black fiance are doing great. Marriage is set for next June. Just thought you might wanna know that, because i know how much you love seeing black women marrying, or even dating white men like myself. Oh, one more thing. You said you live in PA now right? Well so do I. I'm from the Poconos. Maybe if you close, you can come to the wedding.

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  19.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Listening to SimplyMe You said I have nothing good to say about women. I have fiancee and no she is not Guyanese. She is a good woman. What negative statement did I say about your man being Guyanese? You responded to me in some tirade about how you personally felt about me. You was looking to pick a fight and I decided to respond. Perhaps people have said something to you about your Guyanese man. You felt some "type of way" so you want to say something to me. I don't mind it. Now you said you can't win if you say "you dislike his ex wife". Just say how you feel about it. It doesn't make you less of a white woman to say you dislike his black wife. The way I think is totally "Art of War" 48 Laws of Powers. Your enemies are more valuable than your friends are. They got more to prove. Whether you like the nappy headed black girl or not. Really makes no difference to me because you "brought it up". You even chose interesting words like "if she was a bitch I would do this". You ain't doing nothing. You and I know that. Save the tough talk for those who believe it. I mean what would you do to her? I have yet to see a white woman get "it on" with a black girl physically. I think I saw one white girl "get busy" but the other black girls jumped on her. This was years ago. Black girls are notorious for "fading in fights". Once it gets to "intense" they back down. The reason I said infatuated is because you are. It wasn't a disrespect. Some white women get "consumed" with their man. Listen, I keep it real here. Black women will even tell you this. A white woman will go on about "her man is this and etc". Black women really just hate the fact you talk about your man so damn much. I am just delivering the message for them. Then you stick your fat nose in my debate with "otherbrother". Get your own opinions instead of jumping on the bandwagon. Half of what he said " he backtracked on" , He thinks family court should be abolished. I won't jump to conclusions just for you. Have you socialized with black people? Have you gone to a black church? Do you live in a black community? Simply, living the "hood" is not enough. Do you interact with black people. You even admit you know a "little bit" about black culture. Let me tell you something. Since you believe I just assume shit. My cousin was married to a white women from the UK. He brought her here to the United States from the U.S Army when he was stationed in Germany. So technically she was in the hood but never really "interacted with black people". Just like you she admitted she knew very little about black culture. Long story short, she left him for a well off white man in Long Island New York claimed she was beaten. Judge threw out the case and my cousin ruined over this lying ass woman. I am not judging you by this story. For all I know the little black girls may jump rope with you in your neighborhood. You judged me and then you get upset when I judge you. Stop looking for a fight you can't handle. Your the one that said your man is "Guyanese". Why not just say he is a "man" or a "black man". You put his ethnicity out there. Where do you see black men on here say " Yo that's my German white girl or Switzerland snow bunny". You can't even spell misogynist. I will let it go this time. You just don't know any better.

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  20.   SimplyMe says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Queens, 1 How interresting that you so easily pass the buck to me - you were the one that made an odd statement about my man being Guyanese and I askde why it was so funny... To that, you claim Im the one with the problem. Its quite amusing. 2. Once again you show your missogenist side - you just dont have anything good to say about women. White women have no back bone and black women are intimidated by what was it, sucessful black men - I cant recall. Sweeping blanket statemets seem to be your specialty.,, and if I was not friends with the X - you would probably come up with some derogatory stereotype for that to - so I cant win that one. Not trying to be on friendly terms with an X when they have kids together is just simply selfish and childish - its not about me, its about the kids. I have no beef with her, why would I and why would I not be nice to someone that has done nothing ad to me and is a nice person. Now if she was a bitch of course it would be different - but she isnt. As a levelheaded adult, one should try the very best to get along - for the kids (of course it doesnt work in many cases, but happens to work for us). That is not spineless, that is mature... Trust me, if she ever did anything I thought was unkosher or if she was a bith - She would have it. I dont take shit - ever. You just sound childish. People that are wonderful and great get divorced all the time, just because you are all those things doesnt automatically mean you would still be together. Hello.Marriage is about so much more than that - What a silly comment to make that they would still be togethere if she was that wonderful and great - how old are you, 14? As they have kids together, Oh, and Im so very impressed by your insight about my feelings for my beau.. infatuated... you made me alugh, Im not a spring chicken - but thanks for the try. And lastly, there you go again jumping into conclusios - assuming I have never socialized with black people, and that I think I understand them. I never claimed I get all the stuff that you have to go through as a black person, of course I dont - that is a duh. - but the way you put it - it sounds like we are two entire different species - and that is sad.That you even went down that path is odd, jumping into conclusions again. I did live in the hood for years when I first came to this country and although that does not make me an expert, I do think I know a little bit. Im not going to argue with you as you have nothing to come with other than, missogenist remarks, blanket statements and derogatory stereotypes. You just keep jumping into conclusions and repeat the same stuff over and over. Peace

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  21.   Member says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Dear otherbrother. Nice try but you lost the argument. You never gave a rebuttal to the comments about women being responsible for the success of rich men. I was will touch lastly on your statement about Diary of a Mad Black woman. It is a scene, albeit a movie scene created by Tyler Perry. Real Housewives of Atlanta is cameras documenting their lives.There is a big difference here. It is "loosely" scripted but I can't equate it to a Tyler Perry movie. It would be hard for me to believe that Tyler Perry movie scenes happen all over America. My personal opinion about why I feel that way is because Tyler perry seems to demonize middle class black people or even "well off black people". It is the constant theme in his movies. If you think about it real hard and notice in all his movies he has this desire to show accomplished black people abusing people. For example, the black female lawyer who thinks twice about dating a blue collar black man man with three kids. She has the right to decline to do that. The black female Jezebel sleeping with a white man while her black husband works hard. A family that preys. The accomplished black man leaving his equally successful black wife for a prostitute! Madea goes to jail I think. Do not insult my intelligence on this blog. I personally think you are out of my league when it comes to discussions but I respect your opinions. Good day

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  22.   otherbrother says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Queens Good post over half of it is what I said, that’s the best part of the post of course. LOL! I just love when you respond, because you just continue to show how out of touch you really are. No! What happened in the movie really happens everyday that is just one example of why marriage might be important to women, of course there are many others; however you do not understand this example so the others would be too hard for you to grasp also. The scene in the movie portrays a real situation that happens many times over in America, the reality show of Atlanta housewives portrays a myth of how black women are. That’s the difference, one day the light bulb will turn on and you will see what is really happening. Wills mean absolutely nothing today, they are the most contested and overturned legal document in America today. Just as prenuptial agreements mean nothing because of liberal judges who can not follow the law and use loosely written laws with their own interpretation to rule in violation of the law. Again I could give you multiple examples but those might e to difficult for you to understand since you had such a hard time understanding the simple one I posed to you in my last post. Now with this latest post I know you lie, see there are many people who marry who divorce and are on real good terms, both people are wonderful people, however they just fell out of love for what ever reason, every woman who I think is amazing doesn’t mean they are marriage material for me. Example I know some truly amazing women that are great people who do not want children, that means I couldn’t be married to them because that is what I want. Divorce has absolutely nothing to do with how good, classy, or bad, or unclassy a person is. So it is obvious you have no clue which tells me you lied when you claimed you have a huge success rate in getting black women married. I have to give you your props you definitely stick to your story no matter how stupid it sounds, and how baseless it is. You give me great writing material when I need to give examples of men out of touch with reality.

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  23.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Dear Otherbrother You said this " Bill Gates built his fortune single, however he could not have done it without his partner who has been married and his wife supported that effort enabling Microsoft to take off" How did his wife enable him? You are throwing things out there with nothing to back it up. She had children so that enabled him. He could have hired a baby sitter. Was she was in the boardroom designing the product? No, she wasn't in the boardroom or marketing department. He created those avenues for himself with his co partner way before he met her. I think some times women like to take "credit" for a man's success when she really didn't contribute all that much. If I became rich, my fiancee would feel that she was 'entitled" to half my success. But I would disagree. I would have been successful whether she was "with me or not". You also said this "The others your wrong though, without MJ Wife, Kennedys wife or Michelle Obama those guys would not have been nowhere as successful as they were especially MJ." Oh really, MJ needs his wife to help him dunk the ball! I never knew that. MJ wife was on the golf course making Nike Deals for MJ. That is news to me. Barak Obama needed Michelle to run for the presidency when she was against it. I have mixed feelings about that. She helped his "image". But the desire and drive to succeed is Barak Obama's doing. He went to Chicago "on purpose" to have a career in politics. I read his book and this man is very interesting. He could have been a big time Lawyer in New York after he graduated. Michelle Obama was instrumental in getting him the connections in the "black community"I agree with that. Obviously, you can't win elections in Chicago without black people knowing who you are. Again, she was "somewhat important" to his career. In Barak's Obama case she was instrumental I will have to admit that. As for everybody else I named. I stick by my statement. You also said this "Again you show your racism with the comparison to Housewives of Atlanta, Its TV, they make those shows for people like you, to keep you believing that crap." The demographic for that show is actually not for me. How is it racist when it shows black women on it? Shows my racism how exactly? You said this "These are the same black women you are talking about. A perfect example is robin givens and Mike Tyson, Mike is broke simply because he didn’t listen to Robin, most of the other successful men in this country listened to that woman at their side" Robin Givens was out of Mike Tyson life by the end of the 80s. Mike Tyson continued to earn millions right into the mid 1990s. So what are you talking about? Listen to her how? Does she have an MBA? Is she an accountant? Seriously, Robin Givens biggest role was that stupid show on television. I forgot the name of it. She was a teenager in it. You also said this "I will agree that family court system needs an overhaul, but it is the way it is today because men were not stepping up and doing the right thing, now it has gotten so far out of hand it isn’t funny. I call a spade a spade; you are racist no matter how you slice the apple, because you can have a civil debate that doesn’t mean you can not be racist. Most racist do not believe they are racist you are no exception." Why does the family court system need an overhaul? You also said this "Before I go let me break down marriage to you so you can understand, see in America we have laws, and some of those laws pertain to marriage. States marriage laws protect you many different ways when married that do not protect you unmarried. Lets take the scene of the Movie Diary of a mad black woman, when the guy was shot and on life support, the new girlfriend wanted the support pulled, if she was married she would have gotten her wish, but his wife only had the legal right to make that decision. Those are real life situations. Marriage gives you other legal rights that not being married doesn’t." Let me get this right, you told me not to go off shows like Desperate Housewives but you manage to talk about Diary of an Angry Black woman. You can't be serious. Doctors, 99 percent of the time, can tell if you are brain damaged to the degree that they must pull the plug. The man got shot in his back in the movie. Then they decided to pull the plug on him in 5 minutes and ask the mistress permission to do it. It's call Tyler Perry bullshit. I have worked in Hospitals. It just doesn't happen that way. So the incentive to get married if we are to go off "the movie". Stay married to your wife who you do not love anymore and make sure the mistress never pulls the plug on you! He was a lawyer he should have had a "Will". Good day

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  24.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Dear Simplyme I never said anything negative about your Guynaese man. Perhaps you have personal issues that you have to deal with concerning people giving you a hard time. You are entitled to your opinion but you jumped to conclusions about me. I grew up around a lot of Guyanese people unlike you. Just because you are infatuated with one man does not make all Guyanese men good. Even if he wasn't a hard working man does that make that man a bad person? The word supremacist is word white people made up. They thought or continue to think they are superior to minorities. I don't know who you are so I am indifferent to you. If your man's black ex wife was so great they would still be married. Instead you rather take the path of least resistant by making kind comments to her. Most white women do not have a backbone anyway. They rather avoid confrontation. I have ex's and believe it we hardly get along. Much less, my current fiancee getting along with them. She will never go out of her way to read off the accomplishments of my ex girlfriends. I think that is just odd. It's funny to me that people that never grew up in the black community, much less, socialized with black people are talking about who is racist or not. I never grew up in a white neighborhood so what right do I have to say your racist. Perhaps your environment is what shapes you. I can't expect you to understand black people. Basically what happens is they sleep with a black person and now "they think" they know all black people. I will address otherbrother. He seems to have an interesting argument.

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  25.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Oh my friend Mr. Queens, I take a few days off and go to the coast to do a little fishing, had hell of a good time. Just a bunch of old timers talking about the ol'days lololo. Just a suggestion, take a few days of R&R with your honey and relax. Stop enjoy yourself, as Sarah says blink your eyes and today is yesterday. Oh for general information, Sarah was able to come down for a day,that woman likes to fish, damn if she didn't catch two nice red fish. Just to let you know we are still a couple, we had to laugh a bit when a young IR couple stared at us bm/ww, hey we wanted to say something, but just laughed. Got to go now, time to clean up the boat and all that stuff, in the mean time put some ice on all those bruises, from the beatings you have been getting. To all the bloggers keep up the good work, excellent dialogue. May all be blessed Scoff

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  26.   SimplyMe says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    So Queens, You still have not answered me why it is so funny my beau is Gyanese.. I have this horrible feeling your going places with that... Places I dont think Guyanese people would appreciate.. I really hope that is not the case. He is the most upstanding, reliable, dependable man I ever met. He, and his siblings all have graduate degrees and he own his own company and is very sucessful in what he does... and he gives gack to the community, both here and in Guyana. And he does not pass judgement on anybody nnd is truly a very beautiful person inside and out.. and he does not have to settle for anything. He does not reject bw and he never talks bad about them. Matter of fact, if he did, I would NEVER date him as I dont accept a man putting down women period - of any color. I cant stand it and if he ever spewed dumb stereotypes about bw and why he does not date them, is the moment I put my running shoes on. And for the record, he doesnt have a "thing" for ww, I just happend to be white - that is not what he was attracted to - trust me when I say he could get a quality woman of any color. I dont care to date a bm, or any man that say they cant date within their race becasue their women are "X" and "Y"... The people that do that should really take a deeper look at themselves and why they end up with that result. There are quality women of all shapes and color. He has the utmost respect for his beautiful bw X wife- and so do I.. and she is a career-woman with a graduate degree as well. These stereotypes about ww and bw needs to stop... There is not particular stereotype for either that truly sticks..I have women friends that are all over the colormap and I see overbearing, dominating drama queens and cheap floosies .. and sucessful, sophisticated women in all camps. I wish you the best and hope that you instead of passing judgement, assumptions and negativity would uplift and support bw/ww/bm and wm alike. What goes around comes around... I have read some of your posts and you truly come across as a missogenist, and a supremacist - I really hope that Im wrong... but I doubt it. Peace.

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  27.   otherbrother says:
    Posted: 11 Oct 09

    Queens, The problem is you do not get it. Lets do this again you finally hit the 10% mark, Bill Gates built his fortune single, however he could not have done it without his partner who has been married and his wife supported that effort enabling Microsoft to take off. The others your wrong though, without MJ Wife, Kennedys wife or Michelle Obama those guys would not have been nowhere as successful as they were especially MJ. Paul McCartney I believe shouldn’t have had to pay a dime, however he doesn’t pay Alimony for heather mills he actually pays for his daughter. But behind Paul was his original wife whom he would not have had the same success without her. Again you show your racism with the comparison to Housewives of Atlanta, Its TV, they make those shows for people like you, to keep you believing that crap. Not just black women use child support wrong, many white woman due also. However there are just as many using it correctly and many not getting any support. What about those Black women, you do not see professional athletes saying hi dad on TV, NO they say Hi Mom. These are the same black women you are talking about. A perfect example is robin givens and Mike Tyson, Mike is broke simply because he didn’t listen to Robin, most of the other successful men in this country listened to that woman at their side You do not see such a disparity in the numbers of other races and other races have been long dating out of their race, so of course not. Hello 2 PLUS 2 is 4, the disparity is the biggest between black women and black men. As more and more black women date outside their race you do not see them whining either, but then you see the black men whining they are sellouts, HELLO! Again because your white friends finance black women who are with black men, does not mean even a fraction of white men do. I know of no white man who has had his Black woman leave him and go back to a Black man. All the ones I know have either dated another white man or a man of a total different race. The stats are not Brian Williams’s stats they are college stats, they are what they are, and more Black women are receiving BA, BS, and Masters than black men at an alarming rate. I will agree that family court system needs an overhaul, but it is the way it is today because men were not stepping up and doing the right thing, now it has gotten so far out of hand it isn’t funny. I call a spade a spade; you are racist no matter how you slice the apple, because you can have a civil debate that doesn’t mean you can not be racist. Most racist do not believe they are racist you are no exception. Before I go let me break down marriage to you so you can understand, see in America we have laws, and some of those laws pertain to marriage. States marriage laws protect you many different ways when married that do not protect you unmarried. Lets take the scene of the Movie Diary of a mad black woman, when the guy was shot and on life support, the new girlfriend wanted the support pulled, if she was married she would have gotten her wish, but his wife only had the legal right to make that decision. Those are real life situations. Marriage gives you other legal rights that not being married doesn’t. Your Welcome

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  28.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Dear Otherbrother Name some women that were directly responsible for the success of rich men? Sorry you are wrong again. Bill Gates wife didn't help him. Former President John Kennedy wife ain't help him directly. President Obama became successful despite Michelle Obama's concerns he might get killed. She wasn't on board when he decided to run for the presidency in the beginning. It is rather strange to me why the judge would award a woman for "being around" half of a man's assets and she never played a sport or bounced a ball. She never "built" a company from the ground up. Ex, Michael Jordan's wife, Sean Piddy Combs, Nas and various other rich white men. Paul McCartney comes to mind. Pure nonsense it is not about leaving with her nothing. It is about fairness. Why should family court "steal" money from your check if the marriage is over with. I assume she got a new man. The money should just go to the child. Instead what some black women do they spend the child support money on designer shoes and mini skirts to find a new sucker. Just watch "Desperate Housewives of Atlanta". Shows you the modern day middle black woman in America except for Kandi. I like her. Currently, some white men wasn't aware of this trap and now are financing black women going back to black men in relationships. They are footing the bill. Currently more women overall outnumber men in college. You don't see white, Latin and Asian women whining about not finding a man. They are actively networking and meeting the right men. Black women rather "pan handle" for white men. Brian Williams is a jerk. He misreads statistics. Yea you are biased. How I am intimidated by black women when I am willing to debate them about any issue. Currently, we are having a civil debate here. The problem with the Brian Williams statics it leaves out how many women never finish college or those in community colleges. They don't count night students and people take 1 or 2 course while they work full time. Family court should not be a soup kitchen for women to get benefits from hard working men. It shouldn't be a social program. Basically, Family court violates the rights of men. What right do you have to garnish a man's check and you don't even know the background of this woman. It is like rewarding bad behavior. I plan to elaborate on this further. I don't consider myself racist. You just seem to lashing out anytime we have a civilized debate. I stick to my statement educated black women are intimidated by educated black men. The disparity you speak of is just designed to feed the insecurities of black women. Thank you

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  29.   otherbrother says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Queens, once again your wrong, Tell me how wrong 9 out of 10 times becomes right 90% of the time. You kind of have it backwards most successful women especially black women have become successful without a man behind them. While most men whom are successful have a strong woman behind the scene. There are actually very very few successful men who haven’t had a woman involved in their success. Most women in poverty are there because of a man that’s the real situation. I have seen very few cases of a man paying alimony to a working woman, most of the time the woman is home not working because the man demands it, then when he is through with her he wants to leave and leave her with nothing and then move on to another women. Again , it is pretty funny you think black women are intimidated by educated black men, let me give you a figure, black women out number black men 3 to in college. They are not intimidated, they have a hard time finding on, and again for every three black women in college there is one black man. In black colleges the numbers are 7 to 1. It seems to me if a black woman wants to be with a college educated man some of them are going to have to date outside the black community. Because a black woman doesn’t settle for someone below her educational level doesn’t make her a sellout. Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:15 PM by Daily Nightly Editor Throughout the week of November 26, "NBC News With Brian Williams" will take a look at the issues facing African-American women across our nation in a new series "African-American Women: Where They Stand." The series will cover a wide-range of issues from their role in the '08 Presidential race, to the increased health-risks that they need to be concerned about. Monday's installment will discuss African-American women's progress in the education field. Nearly two-thirds of African-American undergraduates are women. At black colleges, the ratio of women to men is 7 to 1. And that is leading to a disparity in the number of African-American women who go on to own their own businesses. Rehema Ellis will talk to educators, students and businesswomen about why this disparity exists. I am not biased against you; you’re just wrong; most of what you post is lies and only meant to make yourself feel good about yourself. I am just able to debate without emotion, I debate the facts, and the facts show your wrong the majority of the time. I am not making assumptions about you I am just responding to your posts, you make a silly statement and I just counter it with facts, how is that being biased? Your posts scream “I AM INTIMIDATED OF EDUCATED BLACK WOMEN. Every post you do shows your racism, bitterness, and how intimidated you are, you say that with what you post, how is that biased?

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  30.   SimplyMe says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Queens... what is so funny about my man being Guyanese?

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  31.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Dear Kingpin I been off the computer. I am glad you and your wife is doing well. I am doing well with mine. Good day.

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  32.   kingpin78 says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    queens....get a friggin life. I go away for 7 months, come back on here, and you are still on here talkin the same shit. Get off the computer once in a while and go do something productive. oh and btw, me and my beautiful black wife are doing great..;)

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  33.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Dear otherbrother I think this is where we disagree. I think educated black women are intimidated by educated black men. You know how many times on dates black women say this to me "oh you must dating numerous women". Oh, you must dating a white woman. Simply because a black man has a degree. I never asked a black woman with a degree if she was with numerous men! That is a falsehood men are intimidated by educated women. That is the sort of thing you believe when you watch to much Oprah "Wimprey". How does her having a degree affect me? I don't need her money. I got my own money and degree. I won't hire a maid when she cook and clean. Since you got a degree and money, why do you want to get married? It is just a piece of paper. But you walk away from relationships when the man does not want to be married to you! I think women are insecure so marriage gives them that "security". What is the point of marrying you, if I can hire a Latina maid. Are you around just for sexual purposes? Explain it to me since you are so smart. Shit the maid might give me sex too. I don't understand black women sometimes. I can go toe to toe with any woman on any day. I can debate any topic any philosophy they believe. I may even agree with some black women. I am open-minded contrary to what people believe here. It wouldn't be a fair fight. I am 31 years old. I don't have any kids. The black women I mostly meet have kids or are single mothers. They would have to compromise their values to be with a man like me. They can always be alone. I really don't hide what I am about. Most white men will not raise another man's kids especially if the kids are from a past relationship with a black man. Black women can dispute that all they want. LOL I think you are just biased towards me because of the way I come across. My personal opinion I am right 90 percent of the time. I think women are comfortable with the "status quo". The man spends all his money on her. While she spends money on "herself". Marriage is not an incentive for men, it is for women. If you leave her, you must pay alimony or child support. Even if she ruins the relationship you are punished. A UK Black friend of mine broke it down. Why should men be punished for the bad decisions you made by having out of wedlock children with a man that you probably knew wasn't going to stick around. My UK Homey even went on to say that men shouldn't date black women with out of wedlock children that are 25 years old and younger. I was like "whoa". I really have to sit and think about that one. In conclusion to answer you assumptions about me. I think educated black women are insecure around educated black men that is why they are "controlling". That is my brand new hypothesis. I will agree with you that maybe black men are subconsciously "turned off" by that. I have a dominant personality so it wouldn't really matter how educated a black woman was. She is not going to get her way unless I let it happen. Some women like the traits in me and some don't. Not every woman dislikes men like me. That is the misconception here. It is not even about race because some white guys are like me. The bottom line is, some women just need guidance. The women that are successful have men behind them. Most women that are in poverty do not got a man. Statistics don't lie.

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  34.   otherbrother says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Queens, Just because you and your White friends talk to your dogs instead of your women, does not mean white men who are in a relationship with black women do. That is actually pretty funny you equating what you do to WM/BW. The problem isn't that educated black women can not be devoted to their man; the problem is usually a man can not handle a woman being as smart as them or bringing in more money than them. Their man hood is hurt, given some women will rub it in a mans face, but usually the man feels slighted like the woman is supposed to act less than she really is for his ego. I am sorry you can not afford to go to red lobster 4 days a week either can I, I have 5 kids but why be angry at those who can. If you need someone to cook for you period! HIRE A MAID a woman is not just a cook, they are supposed to be a partner that helps compliment your life as you should help compliment their life. Compatible and educated have nothing in common. It becomes more and more evident every time that you post that you are threatened by educated black women. You can not deal with women who can go toe to toe with you who can challenge you. You stated that you never settled for an uneducated woman just a compatible one. Again some of us can be fooled by words but not all of us, you settled, you stated that every woman as educated or more educated than you were too controlling, you didn’t say compatible, your statement was they were to controlling, so you really settled for someone less educated than you because they are not as controlling. Either way you look at it you settled, it really had nothing to do with compatibility and everything to do with your ability to deal with a woman on your level. Queens says: 1. I am a LEO, perhaps I do want control. Usually I make sound decisions 90 percent of the time. Most black women are indecisive. For example, if you said to a black woman let’s go out. She will automatically say “where”. Then you will say “pick a place”. She will still be clueless. I think this happened 90 percent of the time. Some guys might disagree with me. I think some black women are so wrapped up in academics they don’t understand the dating scene. You can’t learn how to date a man through a book or lecture. I would say some black women tend to listen to their nappy headed friends to much. They need to listen to me. My success rate getting black women married is high. Usually you are wrong 90% of the time on this blog, which would lead me to believe you usually make unsound decisions 90% of the time. I do not think you understand the dating scene, see it is not all wrapped around you, in a dating scene usually there are two people involved not just Mr. Queens. That is really weird your Success rate in getting black women married is high that also is pretty funny. I bet your success rate for getting them divorced is even higher.

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  35.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Let me respond to otherbrother. "Queens you are still dillusional, what drugs do you take, I need some. LOL You talk about sellouts, you however are a bigger sellout, You say EVERY black woman you have ever dated that was as educated as you or more educated than you was too controlling. Or was it really that you couldn’t punk them out, YOU couldn’t control them, so you settled for an uneducated black woman or one not as educated as you. I do not buy one bit that they all were too controlling. I have yet to see any of your facts that can not be disbuted by other facts. I think it is great that you are educated, however not everybody is easily mislead by links for stories or articles you post." I said the more educated a black woman is, the more she is controlling to a certain degree. I will stick by my statement until I see different. You call me delusional because I go off my experiences. I never said anything is wrong with education. I just happen to see a correlation concerning black women. I have dated all types of black women. Just the particular sub group of black women that are either "career students or women with higher education can be controlling. I am a LEO, perhaps I do want control. Usually I make sound decisions 90 percent of the time. Most black women are indecisive. For example, if you said to a black woman let's go out. She will automatically say "where". Then you will say "pick a place". She will still be clueless. I think this happened 90 percent of the time. Some guys might disagree with me. I think some black women are so wrapped up in academics they don't understand the dating scene. You can't learn how to date a man through a book or lecture. I would say some black women tend to listen to their nappy headed friends to much. They need to listen to me. My success rate getting black women married is high. I never settled for an uneducated woman. I settled with a compatible woman. That is the fundamental problem with "elite" black women. They believe, just because they are educated, they are entitled to a man. Everything can look good "on paper" but that does not mean you both are compatible. I wanted a woman that could cook and that was "neat". Also, a woman that was devoted to me not just college or her career. I call it the "Oprah' Syndrome. Quite often, white men often regret getting into a serious relationship with just a career driven woman. They talk more to their dog than their black woman. That is why interracial relationships fail. Black women can get away with taking their white man out to Olive Garden or Red Lobster 4 times a week. You got to cook for me period! Lastly, Simplyme you are with a Guyanese man. LOL Now that made me laugh.

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  36.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Hey Triccinicci! I hear upgrading to Windows 7 is supposed to fix the problems experienced by Windows Vista users.

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  37.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    Hello Andrew, A 18yo black boy shot a 17yo black girl in the back of her skull. It took place last week in Texas. She somehow did not die. The shooting was reported to have taken place in front of their toddler. I imagine this guy did not provide support. I think she and the toddler lived with her parents. A big story about young black men in Chicago last week. An honor student was killed who was not involved in any side of the youth gang conflict. The catalyst is supposed to be busing black kids from poor performing schools that are closing into new schools. We men that are black (no matter what complexion) have a darker black eye. I have tutored, Sect 8 landlorded, church attended, and faced and suffered public humiliation in order to stay out of trouble. Dating changed (going out on a limb here)for a new generation when kids grew up who were taught that South African apartheid was wrong. Sexual preference saw a big change (even smaller limb) when people learned that you could get HIV from a prostitute. When Magic Johnson (who is worth 300 mill more than Jordan by the way) made his announcement in 1991 street prostitution in a lot of areas shut down for lack of clients. In Texas that was San Antonio's Cherry Street and in Dallas that was Harry Hines Boulevard. Magic's confession and reveal saved a lot of lives. Dating on the job became quite common place and quite interracial with regard to educated or attractive black females after 1991 (hmmmm). On the other blog 10 percent of the women black men married in 2008 were not black women. Some IR men will date because they hate black men. Some IR women will date because they harbor envy and malice to white women, black men, or both. Just be smart about it. Life is short. You can only marry one. If someone makes your heart glow and you make her feel better than having a million dollars then you have my blessings. At the same time. An overwhelming majority of us are working on black community problems as a community. We inherited and/or created some of American societies greatest problems. I have cousins of both genders who are married interracially. I say it again: If someone makes your heart glow and you make her feel better than having a million dollars then you have my blessings. My own brother is part of the black male detriment. I have to worry about watching and molding his two sons. I sent one 425 bucks just last week! No time for competition, man!

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  38.   SimplyMe says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    While my story has apparently nothing to do with teh discussion at hand I wanted to put my 2 cents in... When people say they date outside their race beacues of X trait I get a bit flustered. Fact is that loud, dominant, sumbissive, understanding, indpendent, family oriented promiscous etc wome comes in all colors and shapes. You can find them in your own race.. period.. If you are attracted to people so be it.. I think SOME people are over analyzing things and come up with escuses to justify their choices. I always say that if you say that "all women/men in my own race are X or Y - there fore I date outside my race" - then your wome/men circle is broken and you should find another one.. e.g. a new venue to meet them. Having that said - I am a ww who is in a relationship w a bm... It just happend.. I never dated outside my race, neither did he. We met at a work function and at first sight, it was all over.. we were done for. Sure there were sexual attrraction but that wasnt the driver... we are in a long distance relationship (for a year) and we spent a significant amount on the phone talking about vaules, religion, politice and the like a LOT before we even were able to consumate our relationship - we truly go to know eachother to the core before that happend. I am Swedish and he is Guaynese and clearly we come from completely different cultures. Even so, we are truly cut from the same cloth and the similarities are at times scary. We finish eachother sentences and have the same idiosynracies and pet peeves. We completely understand eachother and could not be better matched. I can truly say that I dont give a rats ass what his, or my color, is - that has nothing to do with anything whatsoever. We simply love eachother for who we are. My point is that som while some people have fetishes, more times than not, I believe that love is truly colorblind - if you are open to it. Sometimes love comes in shapes you might not expect.. leave it to god and let him choose for you (for us that believe in god, if you dont, please leave that comment and add your own). Funny thing with people complaining about dissaproval from both balck and whte alike when it comes to IR dating... In the year we have dated, we have been in about 10 different cities across the US (due to our work) and I have never come across dissaproval or the "looks" that people are talking about.. are we ignorant or just lucky? I dont know but we dont give two craps about other peoples views.. we are happy and thats all that counts. Do your own thing, do what makes you happy and dont over analyze it....... Peace.

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  39.   julius26 says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    To SanAntonioBeauty You must be picking the wrong type of black man. Their are plenty of black men who dont hit woman your just unlucky hun

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  40.   otherbrother says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    No No Nobody ran me off, I have just been extremely busy. First let me try to answer a few questions: Godiva and Tatted you both are wonderful but unfortunatley your both wrong, as I stated before the very obvious, Ichibod is racist and bitter. I could write for hours with examples however we will never agree. So me discussing this issue any further is really irrelavant. 2nd Virginia is far from progressive when dealing with blacks period. Wheather Inter racial or Bi racial or black 3rd Sara and Scoff real or not, should continue posting they at least deal with real issues and facts. 4th Most black women who talk bad about black men due so because of their bad expierence with black men, as do most black women who speak bad about their expierence with white men Due because of their bad expierence. If you feel threatenend as a Black man, by a black woman who says she dates white men because she has had it with black men, then you have other serious issues. There are and I say again again there are plenty of good hard working decent black men, good hard working black men doesn't need anyone on this site to tell them that. Queens you are still dillusional, what drugs do you take, I need some. LOL You talk about sellouts, you however are a bigger sellout, You say EVERY black woman you have ever dated that was as educated as you or more educated than you was too controlling. Or was it really that you couldn't punk them out, YOU couldn't control them, so you settled for an uneducated black woman or one not as educated as you. I do not buy one bit that they all were too controlling. I have yet to see any of your facts that can not be disbuted by other facts. I think it is great that you are educated, however not everybody is easily mislead by links for stories or articles you post. 5th and finally, get over it, many black women for whatever their reason is, are finding happiness and love outside of the black community. That is a great thing. Black women due not only date white american men they date hispanic, oriental, and middle eastern and european men and any other man that they might find an attraction to. Good Day, oh yeah go Dodgers

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  41.   TricciNicci says:
    Posted: 10 Oct 09

    85Kguy, I must commend you. It is not the othere one, but you who are the philosopher. Nothing gets past you and the beautiful thing is you can see it coming all along. I just want to take a moment and laugh out loud in full celebration of your intellect. You are the wisest most precious out of any of them. The men who cannot keep up, but write every single day need to take stock. Your strong will, but unabashed ability to apologize when wrong, change perspective when shown and look anew without denying the historical influence ourght to make them bow down!Thank you for taking your time with S & S. You were a bit intimidating at first, but you knew what you were doing all along. I only say this because it helps other guys to see the natural inclination of wanting to be forceful (as men can be), but that is where they stop. The result then becomes much like a parent who spanks their child because it’s good for them, but they forget the salve of teaching the child – they just spank and wonder why the child is confused and angry. I applaud your step by step revelation of the impact the Scoff and Sara story has on the reader. You know you are correct…and so do they as well as everyone else who reads their words. You are correct again in seeing that Scoff has no real desire to come “public” as you say. Sara is settling and she knows it. STILL, THIS IS THEIR DECISION! Maybe their future will be different. Remember there are all types of attractions. The guarded secret of lust’s desire is one of them. Many movies and great dramas of theatre and stage have presented to this effect. Remember “The Thornbirds”? The minidrama played out on American TV some time in the 8o’s about the relationship between the Catholic Priest and the young Australian woman many years his junior? Some people enjoy having their cake and eating it too. Thanks for giving opportunity to view the perspective of the moral, social and psychological implications of living in such a manner and accepting the short end of Love’s stick. The gum shoe tactic is still my very favorite as these blogs are supposed to help us think (I think, lol), or at least not be opposed to making up our own minds. Most of all thanks for being sensible as you unfolded and shared your thoughts. I don’t think one foul insult to person or body came from you (I could be wrong, but it must’ve been a reeeaaaaaly terrible day if it did) during your presentations. Honestly, I think that’s all anyone could ask for. Besides seems in reading the blog, you’ve grown. I hope others can be blessed to follow suit. Oh – you were right about my computer. It only has 2 gigs even though it’s at 50% use. It slows and tries to crash only when I write on the blog. Other than that, it’s fine. I’ve got Vista which has problems with eeeeeverything! I’m not surprised. Take Care.

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  42.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    1. Scoff and Sarah are not real. 2. Scoff want Mr Queens to never change. 3. S&S will never be for public IR relationships. 4. Sarah tell the story cited above. These are all things that detract from the integration in relationships you black women want. (Sorry Queens lol!) S&S are not approving in text of public IR relationships. The shock and awe at some black actions keeps people away. It does not attract them.

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  43.   Andrew says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    Wow: I started at the beginning of this thread, WAS INTERESTED, and GRADUALLY became disappointed as it DEVOLVED. I've lived my whole life in Atlanta, Ga. I've dated all kinds of women.....I would have to say that I'm disappointed and confused by many of the remarks here. I'm attracted to beauty and intellect, irrespective of skin color!! I suppose I never allowed myself to become trapped by the assigning of "culture" or color..... Thank GOD that there are many more men like me..... I admit a preference for black women.....if only because of shared, traditional family values....and, least I forget to mention....my eyes enjoy the skin contrast during intimate moments. I do hope that the black men who are quick to draw their swords soon realize that loyalty to stereotypical behavior only increases the chance of me finding my soul-mate!! I prefer fair competition!

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  44.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    Grab your seat belts. Let's take a ride. 1. Sarah told us that she is having a secret affair. 2. Her children do not know of this. 3. Her children have children. 4. She takes her kid's daughter (grand daughter)to the house of a man who she is or has cheated on that kid's grand father with. 5. The parents do not know where the kid is. You want to say you are catching insults. You are catching criticism. This behavior is approved by you then cast a ballot right here! I say Nay!!

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  45.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    A black kid wears gold teeth and baggie jeans hung low. That kid gets criticism. The kid can't see straight on the present or future. The kid says. I am insulted!! The kid does not listen and hates the criticism. Sound familiar? Criticism is for your own good.

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  46.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    SanAntonioBeauty She is a gospel singer. I have some of her CDS. Again, the Godiva chocolate is getting self righteous again. I get insulted with no apology at all. A white guys says negative things about black women. They try to clean up what he says. The bottom line is for their to be good people, their must be bad people. For their to be rich people, there must be poor people. I haven't seen any positive things said about black men here all that much. That would make you an accomplice in the bashing of black men if you sat there and said nothing! Good day

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  47.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    SanAntonioBeauty, I've been meaning to tell you that I lke your picture, very nice. Are you a professional singer? I didn't know that. Last, but not least, you can not win in this environment, as far as the insults are concerned. If and when you voice your opinion, you will be targeted, not by all, but a few. I have never known you and a few others, including Sarah, who has never stereotyped black men in a negative manner, but those same women will and have been berated! Maybe the true "insult" is being grouped! There is a difference between a black woman, and black women, singular versus plural! You would think by now that each of us, both men and women, could be judged as INDIVIDUALS! As an individual, you have the right to express your feelings about insults, but as you can see it is acceptable, condoned, explained, tolerated and admired here! If you don't believe me, just sit back and watch the insults that will soon follow! love godiva

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  48.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    Let's micro it down to S&S again. Seems that they are in an IR relationship. They have secret ID. But neither will approve of IR relationships that are public. Now come on SA! That's not making a brighter future for the next generation! That's a concubine priestess of the old south. It started in the slave shacks. She wants women today to be seduced into shadow IR dating affairs. Thats embarassing. She even is teaching her grand daughter. Just like the slave mama taught young slave girls to be on the side for white men. Did not Sarah take her grand daughter to Scoff's house? Remember that the mother of that child and the father do not know about Scoff and Sarah. "Nana" Sarah is prepping black southern girls. Like they used to on the plantation.

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  49.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    There's a big difference in berating a woman because she is black and handling a woman, who just so happens to be black, for spreading lies, bad mouthing ex-black husbands/boyfriends or black men they've never met, and making overall poor choices in life and blaming others for them. No one is picking black women as targets for no reason and the intention, when applicable, is not to cause strife or confusion. I will admit, I do find it weird that Scoff kicked this story off and Sarah has been taking the most heat for it.

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  50.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 09 Oct 09

    Dear San Antonio Again, you need to go back to choir practice. We don't bash black women here. We try to guide you in the right direction. My parents have been married for 31 years. It wasn't a perfect marriage. My father was rather a male chauvinist like I am currently. Black women complain black men don't act like men. Then when we do, you get intimidated or say we are treating you like a maid. I grew up in the church actually. Despite my strong rhetoric here. I doubt we are weak. I completed my college education and work out. Let me tell you how the mindset is different when black woman is with a white man. For the record, their are white guys that are tough guys. No disrespect to them. Overall, black women will go out with a white guy and when they say "conflict coming". They will avoid it because they don't "feel safe". They will either go to a white mall, or white area for dates. When a black woman is with a black man. She feels secure in going any place. Unless she is with a gang member of some sort. That is the fundamental difference.

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