Why white men love the black woman
Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?
It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.
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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.
However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.
So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?
Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.
Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.
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julius26 says:Posted: 02 Oct 09
Hi everyone I dont agree with everything that Mr Queens says but i do agree on one point that i think he is trying to put over;and that is Black woman treat White men better in a relationship than Black men. And iam speaking from my own personal expirence. My ex girlfriend told me that she treats white men better than black men. And i dont think her point of view is usual when black woman date white men. At least she was honest enough to say it but many black woman are in denial, But they know this is the truth. So come on sisters be honest with us black men its the least that we deserves.
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SanAntonioBeauty says:Posted: 02 Oct 0985Kguy, why are you treating Scoff and Sarah as if they are your children, by calling them "hard-headed". I hope neither one of them answer your question, since it does not warrant an answer. Apparently romance is not your thing. Just because their romance had many twists and turns dictated by the circumstances they were in at the time, doesn't mean they condone such behavior today. It's a love story, appropriate for this thread. Be patient they are almost done. My friend, why is it so important to you to know what Scoff and Sarah think about IR being in the shadows. Seems to me it's a personal problem, since you are directing the topic only to them, not a question for the thread.
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triccinicci says:Posted: 02 Oct 09Why is that 85Kguy? The part about them being fortunate they were not in your hood, that is? Do you think your town was small minded, open minded or that was just-in-your-mind(ed). Whatever the answer is. Another thing, why is "their" answer so important to "you" anway? Didn't those people experience that before you were born? Maybe they are still "closed" about it. Seems to me they don't live together, I don't think they're married. Even at their age they may still be "dealing" with the far reaching social pressures from a world and time you and I have nothing to do with. Why are you so hard on them? What justifies your thwarting of what they perceive is truth? I ask in true curiosity.
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85kguy says:Posted: 02 Oct 09Sara and Scoff are hard-headed. I asked them a long time ago: "Scoff and Sara never answered on whether they think people today should stay in the shadows or be IR public." That was weeks ago. No answer. I wish we could hear the truth. Maybe I was just fortunate that Scoff and Sarah weren't in my hood.
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Laurelton says:Posted: 02 Oct 09Dear 85k Guy You put it in a perspective that I was struggling to understand. White man sneaks around with black girl from "childhood" in the segregated south. Never finds the courage to admit his love for her in "front of people". Instead, goes away to college and fools around with other women. Blames it on the alcohol and young age. Black girl in the segregated south bears the burden of racism and racial slurs. She still manages to go to college despite the daunting racism. White guy only cares about how "good she looks". Somehow, this is a noble "love story". Where was his courage when all that racism was going on? Why didn't he stand up for his black woman during these "turbulent" times? Did he ever explain to his parents he likes a black girl? It kind of reminds of the excuses "older" white men say on here. If I didn't marry my white wife, I would have definitely been with a black woman. Yea right.
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85kguy says:Posted: 02 Oct 09Spencer Hopson, a grandfather and his bi-racial children lived an the "older" south than Scoff/Sarah. He was a Korean war marine (much harsher earlier racial times I'm afraid). His kids were born in the late fifties (two biracial boys). His wife was a moderately light-skinned black woman (Mary). Spencer, he was 100% white. Spencer was the elementary school janitor. He was bounced out of a mechanic training program as a Korea vet because of his marriage to afro-american Mary, who was an english teacher at the local black school. There was always the option to live and be treated like the blacks in the old south. Spencer did. Scoff and Sara never answered on whether they think people today should stay in the shadows or be IR public. A true story, they lived in my neighborhood. Mary was really good at making blackberry pie. Scoff and Sara can probably tell you that blacks never were picked in a lot of integrated academic contests to win by the integrated white school judges. I was the first integrated student in my town to win one. My weapon, spelling bee. Last one standing wins the bee. Not like a science fair where prejudice can give an honorable mention to blacks and others. My secret weapon...... Mary Hopson. the old black school english teacher. Yes Scoff, I have a great grasp on things. I pity you and Sarah. I pity your followers even more. Shadow relationships. Defeated spirits. Not a harsh assessment at all.
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tatted2death says:Posted: 02 Oct 09As I said before, many ARE reading your story Sarah/Scoff.......even the ones that "pretend" to hate it.....LMAO
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Laurelton says:Posted: 01 Oct 09I like Scoff's story. You could do a lifetime TV movie on that. All jokes aside of course. The screenplay could be. Two teenagers in love separated by the hectic times during towards the "end" of the civil right movements and the Vietnam War. To meet up again after college was over with. Similar to "Cold Mountain" with Jude Law. For those who haven't seen that movie. It is about the civil war. Judge Law I think was fighting for the confederate side. He thought about a girl he left back in the South. It doesn't really touch to much on the slavery politics or his "point of view" on why he fought for the confederates. Long story short, he ends up back with the girl after the civil war is over. A interracial/war story has never been done before. I think the audience would actually see a movie like that. I have been analyzing movies my whole life. Every time Scoff writes the image of Clint Eastwood from "Gran Tarino" movie pops in my head. I never really liked that movie but a lot of old white guys was in the movie theater watching this. Just couldn't put my finger on why they relate to this "character". The movie overall "was weak". The problem with novels you can't see the sarcasm and idiosyncrasies or peculiarity of the person. For example a black woman could be married an army veteran and he absolutely hates Asians. He may move her to a neighborhood that is not diverse at all. That is what makes movies unique to me. Although, books are better than movies. Overall, I am starting to like Scoff and Sara's story. The stuff they leave out his more interesting than the stuff they include to me.
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 01 Oct 09
I read Scoff's post this morning, and he is right he has a habit of making things sound so simple. What he failed to mention that he recieved two purple hearts, a bronze star,as well as several other honor's. After less than two years he was promoted to Staff Sgt. While he was in Germany he was the honor graduate, of a German lanuage school, and speaks fluent German. That he spent a year on the east west border, working with the 14th Cav. and the German border Guards. All my Sisters understand why we get frustrated at times with our men. His use of one line bullet statements, drives me crazy, lololo. Next week I'll try and end this saga, now let me go call Scoff, and do some gentle chastising, lololo. Blessing to all luv Sarah
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SEWilde says:Posted: 01 Oct 09Scoff/Sarah, Glad to hear your part again. I have heard that some men who go through war, do not want to talk about their experiences. Even if you don't talk about Viet Nam, I hope you can continue to share your story. Love to you and Miss Sarah. SE
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 01 Oct 09
THE TRAIN WRECK: I guess this describes my short collegiate career. Putting all the negatives togeather that I carried around, I can see now that, failure was inevitable. No Study habits, cocky smart a__, all of sudden free of any constraints, okay you get the picture. Before I forget, women and cold beer, the worst combo for any 18 or 19 year. So after one semister I was asked to leave. As for my football career, coming from a small High School, I went from being a star, to holding blocking dummies. Late November, angry, and embarressed I packed up and caught a Gray Hound home. I did run into Sarah that one time at the grocery store, I'll tell you right now she looked like a million bucks, so self assured, and just plain content. I knew right then she had moved out of my small limited world. Yes I did remember telling her she would always be special to me, it was my way saying good bye. The first of Janurary I got a notice from the draft board to take a physical, then a special letter to report for induction on March 18th. Then I talked to a Army recruiter, he conned me into signing up for an extra year to get a school, I decided to be Surveyor, did it help no; I ended up being assigned to the 11th Cav. as a forward observer,(calling in artillery for ground troops). That was July 67, I got back in the states, late August 68. During that August, was the last time I saw Sarah, with the exception of two letters we exchanged while I was stationed in Germany. Just a note when I was discharged, I got my head screwed on right and graduated with honors from college, BS in plant science, then went to work for the Dept. Agriculture. As I promised my sweet Sarah, I posted, I know she will question why I didn't post more about my Viet Nam, expierence. In my opinion, that's old news, that thousands of men had to go through. My favorite Black Woman, Condoleezza Rice, Smart, and damn good looking. So guys list yours Luv to All (even Mr. Queens) take heart ol'Buddy this is almost over lololo. All to know I luv that Sweet Lady Sarah Scoff
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SEWilde says:Posted: 30 Sep 09Scoff/Sarah, As long as you write your story, I will continue to read it. I look for the next episode from Scoff. Hope all is well for the both of you. Working on my degree and being involved in my internship is very time consuming, but I will always encourage you guys, even if I don't necessarily reply. Acknowledgment goes out to Ms. Govida and supporters of your guys sharing your history with all of us. With much love and respect always. SE
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Laurelton says:Posted: 29 Sep 09(Adjusting my glasses) (Walking in on the group hug and gently moving Godiva and Tatt to the side to comment on this novel) Calm down, I just have some questions to ask Sara. Listening to Tatt "don’t you dare stop….I AM READING…..(when my eyes aren’t burning…..LOL)….as are MANY other who are choosing quite simply to not respond." How do you know they are simply choosing not to respond? Maybe they are tired of the unlikely love story that happened in the segregated south. I am not saying it didn't happen. But some black women have a tendency to develop story lines in their head. Men remember stories "one way". Women "remember" stories another way. For example, my fiancee will say " I knew you were the man for me when we met". The way I remember meeting her she had a big butt. Your going to say Laurelton is a savage. No, I am man and this is how we think. We don't say, I saw you reading this book from a distance and your glasses were beautiful in the moonlight. Anyway, back to Sara and Scoff. There are holes in the story. "Scoff" went away to college. Did he spank another white girl? Did he have another "girlfriend"? I remember going to college and really never thought about my girlfriend back home. 90 percent of the time you break up. That also goes for the senior year in college too. Senior year and freshman year is breakup years in my opinion. I guess that just doesn't fit the "story line". Perhaps she doesn't want to know if Scoff "got it on" in his dorm room on this twin size bed with various women. I do the "HOMEWORK" people on this board refuse to do. I want to know what happened at Livingston State. I want the TRUTH (slamming hand on the table) Sara admitted she was whoring around on campus. Before you jump to her defense. She did say this.... "Distance and time dulled the passion we had shared, I was even bold enough to start dating, and really enjoying by college days" Clearly, she was loose on campus. I don't think Scoff knows about this. You got to READ into what black women say. They will never say "oh I whored myself on campus". It will just never happen. Some people get offended by my comments. I am just telling you what it is lol. Again, I am getting TIRED of doing the HOMEWORK the board "regulars" refuse to do. I am gone. Have a nice day everybody.
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godiva61 says:Posted: 29 Sep 09Scoff/Sarah, Just wanted to stop by to say "hello" and to let you know that I was thinking of the two of you. Once again, thanks for sharing your story. Scoff, Army Man, I knew I liked you for a reason(smile). I come from a traditional Marine Corps Family, so when I broke tradition and went Army, I rustled a few feathers, but I'm proud to be a member of the United States Army Quartermaster's. Looking forward to hearing Scoff's addition to the story.. Love you both! SEWilde, tatted2death, thanks for being YOU! world citizen, where are you??? Miss you a lot! love godiva
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 29 Sep 09
Sarah's Memories: Thank You so much, Tatted; I often wonder how many relationships, such as our's existed during those times. The next week continued to be a whirl wind of emotional, peaks and valleys, joy, sorrow,depression and even remorse for creating a decietful enviroment. Again I thank God everyday for taking care of us during those reckless days. I will say it must of been an absolute mircle that I did not become pregnant. At last Scoff was gone on his way to Livingston State, this left me by myself, lonely, and wondering will this last. After a few days, a feeling of relief over came me, knowing that no matter what happens, it will be in God's hands, if it is meant to be, it will. I found myself making amends with my family and friends, as I knew I was about to leave home for good. Then at last it was time to go, as my Father helped me load my boxes and trunks in the car, looking at my Father and Mother brought so much guilt, I felt so much shame for what I had done. At that point I vowed to make them proud of me and not let them down. Both Scoff and myself quickly got caught up in our surroundings, with time apart we could finally see the future, with clear unemotional clouds. I was able to make just one trip home prior to the Christmas break, just by pure chance I ran in to Scoff at the local IGA. In a very brief exchange that lasted maybe 5 to 10 minutes, we asked all the regular questions how is school going, do you like it. Really the odd thing about the last part of the conversation, Scoff half whispered, Sarah you will always be special to me. As I walked away I tried to put this comment in some sort of logical package. Now I know it was meant to say go Sarah go live your life, I want you to be happy, and free all this emotinal trauma. Distance and time dulled the passion we had shared, I was even bold enough to start dating, and really enjoying by college days. Things did not go well for Scoff, but he will have to post those events, I did make him promise to do it today. Love to all Sarah
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tatted2death says:Posted: 29 Sep 09Sarah/Scoff..... don't you dare stop....I AM READING.....(when my eyes aren't burning.....LOL)....as are MANY other who are choosing quite simply to not respond. Peace and Blessings tatted2death
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 28 Sep 09
Sarah's memories: Now it was decision time, I had been accepted at Florida A&M, on a academic scholarship. Scoff at this time really had no plans, he had recieved several letters, of interest from two small Liberal Arts Schools but nothing in concrete, I was torn between going to school or running off with Scoff to where ever,which couldn't of been far with our limited funds. Referancing Mr. Queens post, by this time the Civil Rights Movement had reached the small towns and rural areas. I will try and answer some of the questions I know exist, on how that affected our relationship. True we had many discussions between us, some not too pleasent, as often we would part angry with each other. Then after a cooling off period of maybe a day or so we would meet talk things over and come to some sort of agreement, that satisfied both of us. I will say this, Scoff made this reasonable deduction, in the few restaurants in our area all were segregated, laughing he noted that all the cooks were black. So if these people were so prejudice, they wouldn't eat next to a black why would they let them cook their food. As a rule there two sides led by very out spoken leaders, thank God for the rule of law. When the local Sheriff, came out and said he would enforce the law, as his personal opionion would not affect how he would administer the law, now we know he was forced into this by the Federal Goverment. With this news the county calmed off with exception of few die hards, which were quickly arrested and taken before the Federal Court system. Still Scoff and I had our arguments, often never raching a conclusion, just in our youth, innocently chose to ignore the real hot button issues. Blessed are the ignorant, even today Scoff and I discuss the guilt that we created on our selvies by not taking the correct moral direction. Enough said on this subject as I could write literally pages of incidents, conversation, and discussions Scoff and I had on this subject. Divine intervention, as Scoff mentioned earlier in one his post, is one of my favorite terms. With God smiling on us the 10th of August Scoff recieved a call from Livingston State with a full Football Scholarship, apparently a couple of coach's recruits decided to go else where. His reporting date was the 20th of August mine was the 25th for A & M. The next week was filled with good byes I'll write you, and I love you's. Again God smiled on us, in our lust blinded state we engaged in very careless behavior. Godiva & SE bless you Godiva Scoff was drafted into the Army. Mr. Queens hang in there my friend just a little bit more. Love to all Sarah
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neisha says:Posted: 27 Sep 09
First i will like to begin by saying wow this conversation lasted for over a year. But i read most of it (definitely not all) and i found a lot of things to be very interesting. Well, i'm a black female and i'm kind of young (just turned 18) but i can honestly say i love white men, there's just something about them that's so intriguing. This is not to say that i dont love black men because i do but sometimes they're just to superficial. But, you cant judge everyone. Personally i've dated white boy, dominican, black and middle eastern but my favorite was white. I will never forget when i went to italy on a study abroad program and i met "vincenzo" he was the most amazing guy ever and although we couldn't stay together due to distance issues i know that the experience with a white man was wonderful and that opened my mind to dating more white men. Currently i do not have a boyfriend because im really involved in my studies at the university but i know as soon as i get time i want a white man to be with.
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Laurelton says:Posted: 25 Sep 09Very interesting While Scoff and Sara were giggling over milkshakes. This is what really happened in the Summer of 1966. http://www.crmvet.org/images/pphillip.htm "Stokley Carmichael & Children." Lowndes County, Alabama, summer 1966. "In the 1966 general election, the LCFO ran a full slate of African Americans for local office. The Black Panther candidates were defeated by their white opponents, largely as a result of ballot fraud. Nevertheless, the LCFO laid the foundation for the eventual rise of African American political power in the county and across the Black Belt. The LCFO also inspired the creation of the National Democratic Party of Alabama (NDPA), a statewide alternative to the Alabama Democratic Party. The LCFO merged with the NDPA in 1970, the same year that Lowndes County activist John Hulett became the county's first black sheriff. The embrace of independent politics by African Americans signaled the transition from civil rights to Black Power. During the Black Power era, African Americans organized more explicitly around racial solidarity and black consciousness. They also placed a greater emphasis on economic and political empowerment. The emergence of Black Power did not mark the end of black protest, but rather the start of a new, more radical phase. In cities across the state, Black Power looked very much like it did elsewhere in the country, both in terms of programs and organization. In rural areas, particularly in the Black Belt, it assumed a slightly different form and function. Black farmers, for example, pursued economic empowerment through agricultural co-operatives, such as the Southwest Alabama Farmers Cooperative Association (SWAFCA). The civil rights movement transformed Alabama and the rest of the nation, ending a century of legal segregation and creating new opportunities for African Americans and others. Although it did not solve every problem caused by racial discrimination, it helped to forge a more open and democratic Alabama and United States of America." This was all going on while they "supposedly" had a love affair. Man stop it. Nobody is reading your fabrications!
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 25 Sep 09
My Dear Friends; Of all times the power company is working on the lines, I will finish this in the morning or this evening when I'm sure the power is going to stay on. Mr. Queens only a little more to post, then I'm just another blogger, God still loves you. Ms. SE & Ms. Godiva I send all my love Bless all of you LOVE SARAH
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SEWilde says:Posted: 25 Sep 09Scoff/Sarah, My heart is racing with wild anticipation. Please continue. Ms. Godiva, Have a fantastic day! SE
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 25 Sep 09
Godiva, what a wonderful movie, like your self I want to watch it again. Now to the Summer of 1966, oh my where to start. This is one those times we all have in our lifes when, the heart sometimes over rules common sense. My mental struggles, breaking my religious morals, being decietful to my parents, fighting the battle I'm I sleeping with enemy and knowing this relationship has no future. All of the above were causing me great stress as well as tension between my self and family. Still I continued in my relationship with Scoff, aginst my better judgement. By August we were spending as much time togeather as we could, really living on the edge of being discovered. Go back in your past and remember when you were 18, had all the answers, thinking your parents were so dumb and old fashion. My happiness occurred only when Scoff and I were togeather. Oh we had plans run off live up in Canada, no wait lets finsih school first, no lets just come out and to hell with everyone else. Plans thoughts, more plans, eventully
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godiva61 says:Posted: 24 Sep 09
Scoff/Sarah, Hello there! Glad that you enjoyed your dinner, it sounds yummy! I'm glad that you are both smiling again, please keep smiling! Did you get around to seeing the movie???? I loved that movie, seen it a couple of times.. Looking forward to hearing from you soon, it's always a pleasure.. Scoff, what Branch of the Military? love godiva
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 24 Sep 09
Good Morning every one, What a wonderful night, as I warned I will brag on the dinner. Stuffed chicken breast (fresh herbs mushrooms, feta cheese) green salad, brown rice with peppers, white wine. Movie, then coffee, and talk, what a friend and companion. When looking for a companion, lololo look for one that cook, my Greek loves to cook for me. lololol Yes we both are smiling again lololo Now for some more serious thoughts, just a couple of points we have mutually came togeather on. In our memories, there remaines three significant periods, our last summer togeather 1966, a chance meeting with Scoff when he returned from Viet Nam, and the last a random encounter in 2006. I will try to keep these brief, as best as I can. When I get home later this morning, I hope to get the summer of 66 posted. Words can not express the feelings I have for the friends that I have found on this site. May God bless all of you Love all of you so much Sarah
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Laurelton says:Posted: 23 Sep 09I just came home from work today. I need a mental health specialist. I am not the one writing about "what me and scoff is doing" every day and on every post. I wasn't the only one questioning this garbage. Fire said " Oh could you post that somewhere else where everyone can read it". Why you never jumped on her back? I know why because nobody want to read that "cocci" "feces" "puta" in Spanish. It was cute in the beginning until people started questioning a romance in the midst of segregation in Alabama. That seems to be left out. As for SE, I am not even talking to you. You need to worry about your book not flopping. How are you a cheerleader for another author. Mrs " My book sounds similar to your story". Sure it does lol. This is what Scoff and Sara writing about...... (My spin on it) As Scoff passionately looked me in the eyes as Bull Conner sicked his dogs on the group of us. Only Scoff's Love (from a distance) was able to heal the wounded and racial slurs that were said to me. The next day we were giggling on the segregated bus in the back next to Rosa Parks enjoying a milkshake. This is what the real story is. I like Scoff at least he sees the humor in it. Unfortunately when you are with a crazy black woman it starts to "rub off". Oh yea, I am deeply offended you are implying I dislike black women. I just won't go along with the 'crazy black women". I will say "bitch are you crazy"! That's me. Clearly, cutting and pasting your novel on a board day in and day out (HELLO). Gives you a one way ticket to World Citizen's nursing home. Good day to everyone. I don't mean to laugh but this is funny to me.
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SEWilde says:Posted: 23 Sep 09
Miss Sarah, Take heart that you are not the only person that is experiencing impolite, rude and crude behavior from another on this site. After many attempts by the people who have been offended, to explain, reason, and sometimes to have humor with this person, I too, like you, have come to the conclusion that this person obviously is in need of a mental health specialist. At the very least, the person should enter sensitivity training, and enroll in an anger management class. Personally, I have decided to not reply to that person at all. Period. Even after the last response to my reply, I did not agree with what was said. As long as I keep responding, trying to explain, or otherwise try to get my point across, which in turn is twisted beyond reasoning - then I keep fanning the flames of discontent. I have decided to let that person continue to rant, rave and be unreasonable, he doesn't need my help. There is no reason for me to be involved with his madness. It is after all, his problem, and I don't need to be involved. It's a free country, he can say what he wants to say, I don't have to respond. His madness does not pertain to me. He reminds me of some mad dog foaming at the mouth behind a tall fence. No matter who walks down the street, there he is foaming at the mouth, running the length of the fence, barking insanely, and trying to tear the fence down with his teeth, and do anything he can to get to you. Ignore him. Move on. I hope you and Scoff can just ignore that kind of ridiculous behavior, because obviously, no matter what is rationally said on your part, it's not agreed with anyway, so why bother? Why do you want to deal with somebody who wants to continually beat you up? Why subject yourself to that? You're not going to change him. My conscious is clear. I have been respectful to all, and for those who do not treat me with respect, there is no need for me to deal with them at all. Feel better, don't let the Cyber Bully get the better of you. Use your scroll key. With much love, and respect, always. SE
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jaden24 says:Posted: 23 Sep 09there are a lot of culture differences but there is no merit in that argument because that exists within every race. interracial dating comes down to how open minded someone is and if they allow themselves explore it regardless of their upbringing I was raised with racist jokes and being a country boy. I have evolved in many ways into someone completely different. I have picked up what I like and thrown aside ideas that I dont last year I fell in love with one of my black girl friends and it opened my eyes. sure, I see many traits that come from black culture but I also brought my own basket of goods so to speak a relationship is what two people make of it regardless of any background, race or culture. I find black women absolutely adorable and am glad I opened my eyes
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Ichibod says:Posted: 23 Sep 09I beginning to think that some of my posts are being deleted.
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 23 Sep 09
Mr. Queens; After getting over my hurt, mostly anger. To be honest, I do realize that I'm probably a sensitive, no let me say a overly sensitive lady. Having admitted that character flaw, which is one of many; I will ask you are you being honest with your self. I noticed in a previous entry, that a responce to one of your tirades, is that you have a problem with women more to the point black women. I really can't understand why my memories push your tolerance to such an explosive level. True we women do love our romance novels. I will be perfectly clear, this is a true expierence that happened to myself and Scoff. So as I used to lecture to my daughters, expand your thoughts, use your God given talent, expand your outlook on the whole world. After all that if this still irritates you, I can really say nothing else on the subject, except seek professional help. I want to take a minute to thank all of those that came to my support, it is such a blessing to know that my sisters are out there. Luv all of you so much Sarah Movie night with Scoff The secert Life of Bees, he's cooking dinner. Be prepared I will brag on the menu. Many Hugs
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Laurelton says:Posted: 22 Sep 09The "Blog Villain is back" I don't understand why people attack me. I agreed with Fire when she basically said " Look I am tired of your self serving attention whore novels". I simply agreed. Then the whole blog community comes out like I am the bad neighbor on the block. They know damn well they wasn't reading the novel. As soon as I said something about it. They all chime in just because " I said something about it". Instead they need to thank me for the promotion. I saw like 8 replies here. The last couple days I didn't say anything. Fire you are right. They need to do it somewhere else. Most of these people here couldn't tell you what they posted about yesterday. But they DEFEND THEM. Stop it, be honest with yourself. You ain't reading this "feces". See I am trying to be constructive and polite. Scoff and Sara giggling at the "back of the bus" in segregated Alabama reminiscing about some romance. While Bull Conner sicking dogs on Negros. What the hell kind of love story are they even making up in their head?????????????? I have to go later people.
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SEWilde says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Ms. Godiva! I am always happy to read your reassuring, kind, and encouraging words, they always make me smile. I too, consider you to be a dear friend in a place that sometimes has, unsmiling faces that tell lies. While there may be some on this site who discourage, I will make it my own personal mission to encourage Scoff and Sarah, each and every time I encounter a particular public discourse against them. Not that I feel like I'm a crusader, but there's something totally wrong in a situation where such disparaging words are said, that it brings Sarah to tears, and I don't mean in a happy way, either. Especially since all they are doing, is telling their story, and again, they continue to be persecuted because they love who they love. I would also like to acknowledge and applaud, Smooches, Fire321, Free Aries, bigeyes31, and others who encourage Scoff and Sarah, whether publicly or otherwise. Miss Godiva, I do so appreciate you being there, you bring me such comfort. I know you are there for all of us, and I look forward one day to have that dinner with you, Scoff and Sarah. (Dinner that Scoff will prepare, of course.) I, like Sarah, am not particularly handy in the kitchen, but I am more than willing to provide the wine and dessert. As Barbara Streisand sang in the 1968 movie, "Funny Girl," portraying the character Fannie Brice, she sings, "Nobody, no, nobody, is gonna rain on my parade!" I would hope we could all take that to heart, and let NO ONE, rain on our parade! Much mad love, happiness and respect, always... SE
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bigeyes31 says:Posted: 22 Sep 09godiva.... forget you?....NEVER,lol. I just wanted to say I know what you're feeling before going "in" but I know you will make it ,full moon or no.I know you have the strength to brave the storms but still remain caring and loving. You remind me of "Hawthorne". I think of you when I watch that show,lol. I hope you take that as a compliment, if not please understand that it is one. Love ya Peace
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Smooches says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Just so that I'm CLEAR responded to a negative post that you received from the blog villain here. We won't name any names...... I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any confusion; as to why I repeatedly let you know that we are reading what you post.
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Smooches says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Let me say thank you.... to you Sarah. I wanted to let you know that even though it may seem that no one is listening we are. Most of us love what you are doing and hope you continue to do it. Hey Godiva, You are a beautiful soul. Thank you for not leaving the blog; we need you around miss lady(you know we need our Godiva chocolate fix). I just want to let Sarah and Scoff know that we are here and we reading and WE DO ENJOY IT AND WE THANK HER. You know as well as I that we have lost so many of the Vets because of the rigmarole that has happened on this blog. Someone once said that people reading these or posting to this site are missing something in their own lives. No, I come here to hear the stories of other IR couples that have withstood the test and trials to have their marriages, relationships, and etc. It’s hard to love without color boundaries. Because, closed minded people aren't accepting of change. So, if there are men and women that want to express why they love inter racially as long as it isn't offensive to anyone and doesn't slander another race I'm all ears! Hugs and Smooches to all
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godiva61 says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
bigeyes31, Hi Natalie, I missed seeing you! I thought you had forgotten about your sister(me). You are so wise, and so endearing. I can see the hand of GOD on your life!! I love you, but it's back to you know where and I hope to God there is no full moon tonight(lol) love godiva
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godiva61 says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Scoff/Sarah, Hi Scoff! Still thinking about that dinner(smile). Sarah my friend, it hurt's me to know that you are hurting and have tears in your eyes.. Do not be dismayed or discouraged!!! Do whatever it is that will make you happy and if telling your story gives you joy, then do it!!!!! No not everyone wants to hear your story but to borrow the words of Mick Jagger "You can't always get what you want"!!!!! When if ever, can you please everyone???? Whatever you decide, it will be your choice and I will support you know matter what you decide. From where I'm sitting, story or not, I have made a new friend in you and Scoff, and that is my reward and the best story. One last thing before I go back to work. I personally don't believe in coincidences, that being said, you and Scoff's presence here was guided to be here for a reason, and no man or woman had a hand in it. I was also told once NOT to believe in the story of the ALMIGHTY, not to tell it, but guess what, IT DIDN'T WORK!!! SEWilde, Hello to you my dear friend! love godiva
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bigeyes31 says:Posted: 22 Sep 09To Scoff/Sarah As one who who has been a victim of somone trying to control this public blog... I would never try and dictate to somone else how to connect in this forum . So I give you guys the space you need since what you are doing is participating in an peaceful exchange and I am not the moderator of this site. I think Fire was both trying to explain why there is a lag and alleviate it for your postings. I do not believe she was at all "off handedly" asking you to leave or stop. Peace
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godiva61 says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Smooches, Good to see you! I hope that you have been well. I just wanted to say to you that I appreciate your uplifting Sarah's spirit today. It takes a strong woman to stand by her convictions, but the real strength lies within when you can put yourself out there so to speak, take the flack and all the while, help someone to smile, give them a dose of confidence, uplift a spirit that needs uplifting and in your case today, you did all three! It's good to know that there are decent people in this world, and by the way you look good doing it, you are very pretty, on the inside as well as the outside. Your inner beauty enhances your outer beauty! You got it going on!!! love godiva
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SEWilde says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Scoff/Sarah, I have heard of the 'lag' but have not had much experience with it. I guess you would have to weigh, either having a lag on this site, or follow Fire321's suggestion of finding another site. I'm not sure how any of that works, but I do agree with Fire321, to keep me posted if you start moving around. I know for sure that on this site, there are fewer people looking at these posts in particular, which makes it easier for people to find you since they already know where you are. On another site, you might have more of an audience (if that's what you're looking for) and less of a lag, but I think it could cause a lot more controversy in between each of you and Scoff's posts, so I guess it would be something to think about before you make a decision. My hope is that you don't get lost in the shuffle. Just know that every time you are told that "nobody is reading that s***," I hope you can disregard those comments and keep writing, keep posting, and know that, people do want to read your story. Do not be deterred. SE
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Smooches:Thank you so much as I sat here pondering, why was I doing this as I have often, since Scoff convinced me to. I took a deep breath, yes I did have some slight tears in my eyes. Looking through the recent post I had seen yours. Thank you, thank you, as this has become very dear to me, I just hope that it will help some young couple make the right decisions for their future. Inter racial relationships, can be rather complex, and very trying on a person's soul. God Bless you Smooches Luv to all Sarah
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Smooches says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Sarah, I don't post much but I want to say that I LOVE when you Scoff post! What you and Scoff are doing is wonderful! The telling of your story is so richly human. Anyone can read it and remember a time when they were coming of age. Its a story of love and applaud what you guys are doing; if anyone has problem with just like SEWild said scroll past it. This blog is the proper place for the telling of your story and SEW's book. Please the three of you don't stop posting. As always much love to all the Vets!!!! Smooches to all
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
Mr. Queens; Again thank you for words of wisdom, not one to be polite, with out knowing you, is this a reflection of your character. I also would like to commend you on your excellent use of four letter words. As I know it takes times and effort to accumlate this type of skill. Ms. Fire Your suggestion is worth noting, as I will try and do this different. If you can help us with finding another site I will be for ever thankful. Mr. Queens please take a lesson from Ms. Fire a another true lady with class. God Bless all & even Mr. Queens Luv Sarah
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Laurelton says:Posted: 22 Sep 09Fire you are being to nice Just say "Look nobody is reading that shit". I am not one to be polite. Nobody wants to read a damn novel on this board. Why can't you get it through your thick heads! Just because nobody responds does NOT mean they are reading your novels. God people are dense. Have a nice day.
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Fire321 says:Posted: 22 Sep 09Scoff/Sarah Perhaps you should consider continuing your post on a topic that hasn't been used much. This one has so many posts, that's causing the lag. Just let those of us who are interested know where to find you :-)
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 22 Sep 09
I planned to post what happened that evening when we met after work, but the lag on this post is so slow this morning. Is there anyone that can tell me how to stop that, or do something about it? Before I go with that post, some history on my past expierence with boys. I had made out with boys a few times, only been french kissed once, and truthfully didn't like it. In general most of the boys thought I was kinda like a cold fish, so they didn't so to speak waste much time with me. Looking back, I really can't say what physical and emotional attraction caused Scoff and I to behave like we did. I thank God that we did have the maturity to handle the sexual part of our relationship. Now I will say that for those that want to know our last summer togeather, I'll just leave it at that. That was after two years, I refuse to degrade those moments, as they are precious times not to be shared but by those involved. I cherish those times as much as the time spent with my late husband. I'm sorry to digress off topic, please forgive me, I just want to make sure that the focus is on the mental and emotional agony, we endured for those three years. Ms. Wilde please a little more, It's arm twisting again, Scoff is going to post or else lololo, I'm going over Wendesday he has the movie The Secert Life of Bees. Bless my favorite Sisters Godiva SEWilde San Antonia Luv to all Sarah
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Scoff/Sarah says:Posted: 21 Sep 09
Godiva, SEWilde, San Antonia My Dearest friends, It just such a pleasure to know you true Ladies, it brings so much joy to my heart. You all are so much patience to listen to my memories. Letting this out gives me a certain amount of comfort as I've kept it bottled up in me for so long. I must say Scoff started all this and to think, he had to drag me screaming ( so to speak)to this site. I just wish I had as much writing skill as you ladies, I'm sure it would be alot more interesting. I'm one those women who has been very blessed in relationships with men, Scoff was the first, my late Husband the second, so when I hear about women and men in bad relationships I really have a hard time relating to them. Keep up the good work Luv Sarah
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Member says:Posted: 21 Sep 09
A bunch of damn HATERZ!! Once again I say some of you really need to get a REAL life, and if some of you black men are any representation of black men out there no phucking wonder black women are dating white men.....Who and why would someone on a message board really give a shit that another person may have hooked up with or sent a photo of themsef to another ADULT....m'kay just too much craziness to even try to make sense of... actually, LOLLOLLOL what a clown, jester, joke.....the irony of believing that people actually take you serious..HA!HA!
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godiva61 says:Posted: 21 Sep 09
SEWilde, Thank you my dear friend for reminding me of the 'old school ways', especially when it comes to manners and common courtesy.. This is one area in our society that has been lacking, and rarely taught, and it's a liitle startling to hear and see the opposite of how we were raised. Daddy used to say "free speech is a blessing to have, but it should not be abused or taken for granted , because in some instances, someone paid the ultimate price, their life, so that we can have our freedoms, including, freedom to speak"! On that note, I will speak freely, and sincerely, by saying to you, "I'm glad to know you, and I am thankful that you honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice, for our freedoms, because you speak with dignity and thoughtfulness.. Thanks! love godiva
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godiva61 says:Posted: 21 Sep 09
Scoff/Sarah, Good Morning, well almost afternoon.. Hope that you are both well.. Sarah I am glad that you had a great weekend, and I see the grandkids, did recharge you(smile). I had a wonderful weekend as well, Sunday was the absolute best!! My daddy started a tradition long ago, 'Family and Friends Day".... He used to say, "don't wait until the last Thursday in November to be thankful for your friends and your family"!!!!! So we have carried on the tradition by setting aside one Sunday out of each month to get together, usually after church, with our family and you are encouraged to bring a friend. My father would always invite one of his co-workers, usually it was the co-workers that were single or wasn't close to their own family, for whatever reasons. That was Daddy's way of reaching out to people, and the tradition lives on.. We had great food, and plenty of food, and the laughter that brings you to tears......Grandma Dynamite(my mother) was the life of the party.. She was trying to imitate Michael Jacksons moves from the Thriller video, too funny! Anyway, good to hear from you as always. Your presence here is appreciated, story or not, but HAPPY to hear the story just the same!!! Have a wonderful Monday! love godiva
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Oh my. Mr. Laurelton, 85k, Julius, I must beg your pardon. Let it be known and truly declared all Women of Color are not the same. You guys sound like some Caucasians I've heard getting the looks of us confused, lol! "What did the assailant look like m'am, describe him." "He was black with jeans and a tee shirt." Lol! How many men AND women of color are sitting in jail based on the "they ALL look alike and act alike theory"? It's a shame when we write headlines and sell the newspapers about our own people. Mr. Laurelton there was a young woman who truly would have appreciated your poems. You happened not to have choosen her to pay your attentions to. Not wanting to admit you failed by simply assuming the racial similairities would cover everything from here til eternity, you boast to attack the symbol of your ignorance in her. Now you just address all black women representative of the crux of your rejection as sell outs. At least for you there is hope. Your rejection is easy to mend. Don't you know only another poet can soothe a poet's heart? This young girl obviously had no idea of the gift she was being given. How could she if she didn't even ponder the surface, but simply made retort in the manner which you mentioned. But let me help you in a more sincere way Mr. Laurelton. Did you know you may have given her a gift that uplifted her spirit. That poem is still with her. It will come to her present mind one day when it's needed most. That is when she will gain its full value. I have a poem for you Mr. Laurelton. I hope it soothes your soul and others like you. I will put it here for you and others to read and share one day soon. So I say, if you are going to just live in your skin and let your skin answer for your soul/spirit as well, then know as Black Men you have a legacy to uplift. Why not lead the women you do have or hope to win with love and compassion. Teach them the etheral beauty they encompass by recognizing yours as UNCOMPARABLE! Just the same as you desire to hear the , "Awwww!" when your poem is read. ___________________________ And Mr. Laurelton on the story of Sarah and Scoff. I don't actually read it much and don't judge what I've read as that would be cruel. I am a writer and can be very cutting on critique. I don't care what a person writes about it's the form and the function of how it is conveyed to the audience/reader. Fiction, non-fiction, fabricated tales, who cares! Was it a good read, lol! Apparently their following believe it to be. I think they are writing for therapy and self entertainment. The responses interest me more than the measure of what has been written from their keyboard. For one to truly tell a story takes more than the reconfiguring of how each felt at what juncture in their lives. Although I applaud their effort.