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Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 17 Sep 09

    Dear Scoff/Sara You might be a delusional older black woman. My mother and Aunt is close to 61. From my understanding they didn't have an love stories during the civil rights movement. I am just being honest with you. At your age you should know better. Perhaps you would be believable if that romance happened a little "bit earlier". I don't talk about my conquests on this blog. If I have, show me? Nobody said stop posting your fabricated tale. I am just telling you I don't believe it. What's next, she is giggling over milkshakes with a white man in the segregated south while dogs was biting black people and cops was beating people in the street. LOL Are you serious? SEWilde That is your opinion. How are you going to "quote" the bible but attack me for questioning a fabricated tale. We can agree to disagree. But you get mad when I disagree lol. The H! Sellout Swine flu is affecting all the black women here. Let me put it into context here. A fake love story during the time of segregation. They are drinking vanilla milkshakes, I assume in a black diner. It couldn't be no white diner. Ignoring racial slurs and "etc". Man I am not falling for the "banana in the tail pipe" like Eddie Murphy said. Godiva I like you but you even admit you never heard of any white man named Scoff in the south. Sounding like "Obama" "You can't just make stuff up". LOL

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  2.   Sen says:
    Posted: 17 Sep 09

    I have to say that I find it interesting that the fact that Kanye is black or Taylor is white was mentioned here, as well as racism etc. I'm English and when it happened I read several comments on English news sites and blogs and not once, out of 400 comments, was that even mentioned. The sentiment was 'Kanye is a twat' which I've always thought. Does everything have to be race related? He has an over-inflated ego and has a history of outbursts such as these. I wouldn't think that all or even the majority of black men (or anyone in fact) would do such a thing as that would be pretty ridiculous. The reason it was shocking, in fact, was because it's not 'normal' behaviour. It's simply rude. I'm not saying that there is absolutely no porblem with 'race' in England, please don't misunderstand. However, jumping up on stage and interrupting a young person's acceptance speech (or anyone else's) is just going beyond the realm of bad manners. I find it abhorrent.

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  3.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 17 Sep 09

    To All Please feel free to use your scroll finger, avert your eyes, step away from the keyboard, or otherwise avoid this post. I really try to hold it down, and as a rule, I try to be brief on this site. This, however, is not one of those times. I have never disrespected anyone, and I do not intend to start now. I also have no other plans of responding to anyone else, to this lengthy degree. I feel a rant coming on. (picking up the mic and standing on my soapbox) I need to vent for a minute, fair warning, just wanted to let you know before you read on. Mr. Laurelton Queens, we meet at last. I knew this would happen sooner or later. (and yes, this will be a long email - me and you) First of all, I need to preface this long-assed email, by two things; clarification needed for your reply to Scoff/Sarah of 9-16-09, (meant for me) and I’d like to share one of my favorite passages in the Bible when I am in a situation, where I feel like I’m going into ‘battle.’ I feel like that today, like I'm in a ‘verbal battle’ of sorts, I feel you have ill-will for me – and I don’t like to fight. I don’t even like confrontation; so once again, I am out of my comfort zone. I am a peaceful person, and I am not interested in attacking anyone. I just want to put on the full armour of God, my protection, and move on. I have no fight with you. Ephesians 6:10-20 (King James Version) 10Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; 19And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, 20For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. When I first came to this site, I noticed the account of Scoff, when he first met Sarah. Since this forum is asking the question, “Why White Men Love the Black Woman,” I for one, was interested in their story, as he is white, and she is black. They were both giving an account of how they met years ago. It is my choice to associate with people who want to associate with me, without name calling, and insults. When I finally saw Sarah’s response, I applauded, and encouraged them both to continue their story, although, I added at the time, I was not sure if this was the proper forum or not. But, what harm could come, they’re telling their story in sections, and not 5 chapters at a time, besides I mentioned that I had just written a book on the same subject matter. They encouraged me to share my book. I agreed to disperse it in small sections at a time. Plus, if someone doesn’t want to read it – they don’t have to. They are Scoff and Sarah. Their story is told from each of their perspectives, and so is my story. My story, “Flames of Passion: The Passionate Love Affair of Michael and Kaye,” is not taken from my diary. (not that you care one way or the other – I just didn’t want to you to be any more misinformed than you already are) Yes, it is the work of fiction, and is currently at the publishers, and will be released in a few months. In one of your replies to Godiva, you mention "self serving novel" you are referring to, Scoff/Sarah, but you are talking about MY book. Just wanted you to talk about the right person. Not that I have to defend Scoff, Sarah, Godiva, or anyone else. You also erroneous stated: “Nobody want to read all that shit. Go to Ebay and sell your book or whatever fantasy diary you are writing.” It’s ok if you don’t want to read my book. I am interested in Scoff/Sarah's history. I want to hear the end of their story, and it’s not “shit” to me. Everyone else is free to post around me if they'd like. They can scroll down and not read my book. I have met a few people on this site, Scoff and Sarah and their history, for one, and Ms. Godiva. There are people who are not interested in me and what I have to say, that’s ok. I am only interested in communicating with any person who treats me with dignity and respect. You are not one of those people. Then you go on to say, “This is what happens when Godiva, Tatt and other people encourage people to do stupid shit.” I too, was encouraged. I do intend to sell my book on Ebay and any other place I can sell it. Why does this bother you? As a matter of fact, I will continue to post a page or two at a time, until the end of the book. It should be of no consequence to you. Obviously, my book is not for you, so why do you have negative comments? Why are you so concerned about my book? Are you even aware of your disruptive behavior? I, and not Scoff and Sarah, “am posting from her imagination…and “speculating what a white man is thinking.” You’re right, my imagination, my creativity, my book. And you’re upset, why? “We can do a poll here.” You state, when referencing “People DO NOT want to read all that shit.” Maybe people want to read it, and maybe not, but it's up to each individual to decide. My book is not for everybody, but some people are interested. Perhaps, we should take a poll, to find out who wants to hear your vulgarity, and dismissive banter. I was not aware that you are the Chief Spokesman, Dreaded Overseer, and Blog Police for the site, “Why White Men Love Black Women.” I did not know that I needed to have a poll regarding people wanting to read my story. I was invited to share my story, so why do you have a problem with that? My page at a time is probably shorter than one of your rants. (or my rant for that matter) Your mention that your words are “original,” and mine are not? Yes, this story is still going on, and no, I will not stop posting my book. I really had to laugh at your statement, regarding, “…there not being a debate? This woman is doing a novel in the room.” Why, Yes I am! Slight correction, this is just the little book, (the novel comes out later this year) Maybe you don’t want to read my book. That’s ok, I’m not asking you to. Use the scroll key. Offended? By being asked to use a scroll key? To scroll down so you don’t have to read what you don’t want to read? What? With all due respect, Mr. Q., why don’t you just go back to your own blog, or any of the other million of blog sites out there? I have no quarrel with you. It’s a big blog world out there, and I have no need to subject myself to those who hurl insults, defame and slander me and others. Why are you so compelled to spew your venom, profanity, and lack of respect? Why do you continue to disrespect anyone who comes to this site? Why can’t you just have a conversation without resorting to name calling and character assassination? You act like a Cyber Bully. I am not bothering you or anyone else. I am not being offensive to my fellow bloggers. I am not calling anyone names. I have been respectful to all on this blog. I want to hear the story of Scoff and Sarah, and I hope they are not intimidated by your vile, disrespectful comments. As if, we can only say what you want us to say, or not say on this blog, or…else…or else…(da – da – DUM, really scary and suspenseful organ music) Put on Blast by, the one and only, Mr. Laurelton Queens himself! Oh my! I will continue to post my fictitious tale. I am not asking for your approval, I am not seeking your acceptance. As I and others have mentioned, use the scroll key. I know, I do. The people that accept me, do, and those who don’t, don’t. I am sure they know how to use their scroll key. Anyone reading my post, is welcome to bypass it, and scroll to the next post. Why can’t you just let us be? Why comment at all? It won’t stop me from talking to Scuff and Sarah and the other supporters of these White Men, Black Women stories, in a White Man, Black Woman blog. Why are you here in this blog, anyway? I always thought it odd, for you to continuously be on this site re: White Men, Black Woman. I do not understand your incessant need to denigrate any and every person you do not agree with. If you don’t like it – leave. You remind me of the alcoholic who picks a fight with every person in the room. Why do you want to argue with us? I don’t want to argue, I hate to argue. I will not enable a raging person, by engaging in his rant. So, rage on, Mr. Q., rage on. You, my dear sir, operate out of the fast lane. It’s ok. Go around us. We have moved all the way over to the right, in the slowest lane, talking about IR love, good feelings, respect for all human kind and sharing our stories. And, there you are – right behind us, sitting on our bumpers, honking the horn, yelling obscenities out the window, and giving our little caravan the finger. Put your left turn signal on, get in the next lane, and speed away. If you don’t want to be in our slow lane of love, and good vibes, accolades, and mutual admiration, then move along. We are not bothering you. Leave us alone, and stop being a bully. Please, have a modicum of decorum, and respect for yourself and others. We can agree to disagree. I don’t say anything to you, and you don’t say anything to me. Nuff said. (stepping off my soap box, throwing the mic down) Peace - out.

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  4.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 17 Sep 09

    Thanks Ich so much for understanding where I'm coming from. I so wish for us all to heal and get better. Yes, my keys are lagging too. Peace

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  5.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 17 Sep 09

    Scoff/Sarah, Thanks for standing strong!!! I'm so happy that you didn't back down.. You have a right to be here, and I am grateful for your presence, always!!! love godiva

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  6.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 17 Sep 09

    As the firestrom brews, I at first thought perhaps Mr. Queens may a have a valid point, that my expierences may not belong on this blog. After reviewing several of his past post I realized, he is appartently a blackman, this deduction caused me to ask myself several question why would he want to post on a blog that's titled why white men love black women, in one post he frequently used the F word, as well as bragged about his conquest, I'm really puzzled as to why he would even be on a blog like this. But rest assured Mr. Queens, that I will continue to post every boring detail, and then some, if for no other reason than just because I can. God Bless you Mr. Queens, and remember I'm a 61 year old black woman, retired with plenty of time and money, which enables me to set hear all day and post. Luv to All Sarah

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  7.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 17 Sep 09

    You're right, Azrazyel. Except we don't wonder why, WE KNOW WHY. Some people can just see Kayne up there. Many conscientious blacks see him as just another n***a up there ruining it for the rest of us. I'm glad Obama called Kayne out for being such a jackass. I do not like Beyonce one bit, but that was very admirable what she did. Beyonce can sing, but she has absolutely no personality. And Jimmy Carter did the same thing Bill Cosby did. Air the dirty laundry that either needs to be cleaned or tossed out. Nice call, "Prettyeyes"! "You see race relations will never improve in this country because people will not even admit that they are racist." I agree! "That’s why there are not many white men on here telling why they love the black woman." Out of 1691 posts, I've noticed that also. And we all see Mr Laurelton can't seem to shut up about it. Ha! It is what it is, bro. That's probably why James hasn't posted any new topics? He's just dying laughing at the fact that this one has gotten close to 1700 posts when the question was rhetorical from the beginning. Notice how he sums up everything that has been said throughout this thread and ends with: "Bottom line, you don’t have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too." Am I the only one whose keystrokes lag while typing in here? That means this thing is getting too long.

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  8.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Correct me....'some' blacks. But yes, that's where the generalization does come in. 'One' black = all. Right or wrong, it is what it is.

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  9.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Kanye was wrong for that. I saw T swifts response and she was genuinely hurt and bewildered. I felt sorry for her. She got caught in the middle of Kanye's history for outburst. But since when does what one black person does represent ALL black people in the media? That's racist thinking and generalization. That's exactly what the media does. It takes one incident , one person and say "see this is how they are". Peace

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  10.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Kanye should have his ass beat for what he did. And blacks wonder why they have a bad media image.....

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  11.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Is ex-president Jimmy Carter, a southern white man wrong?????? The hell you say! I think not!(lol,said with righteous indignation). You see race relations will never improve in this country because people will not even admit that they are racist. You cannot and will not get better if you don't admit you have a problem. That's why there are not many white men on here telling why they love the black woman. I would like to apologize(pulling a Kanye West)LOL Peace

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  12.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    yeah I heard Jay-Z was mad at her for not sticking with "fold" so mad he called up Rhianna and hung out with her after the VMAs. It's almost like Jay-Z wanted Kanye to do that and went she went the opposite way....well it messed up the plan lol.

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  13.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Dear Big Eyes Kanye West was right. The problem is Beyonce is not his wife. Jayz should have jumped on stage and tell that no talent white girl off. Taylor "piss". However you want to call her. She wins over Beyonce. Yea ok. Beyonce can sing, dance and write songs. White girl just exists. Beyonce should have never felt sorry for that girl.

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  14.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Oh boy, just when I want to escape drama. They keep pulling me back in. We can do a poll here. Who wants to see person paste a novel for what the last 3 days about an imaginery tale. I think based in Alabama, I can't remember. It took me like the third day to respond. Everybody has been courteous to this person concerning his fabricated story. You even said you never heard of a white man named "Scoff". This is what I don't understand about some black women like Godiva. Anytime you interrupt their fantasy land they throw a fit! It's not like I just came out and said" stop the novel". I was like "is this still going on". A question some members are asking. I am more vocal about it. The scroll down statement was an insult from anybody that said it. I may not have clarified it better. It's like saying "yea the girl is nuts" just let her keep writing. That is what I meant by that. You might has well say "go write that in your diary and sell it on Ebay". Now the dictatorship comment. That's funny everybody else says " ignore Laurelton" or what I say is not true. I never here you come to my defense like that. Godiva you go along with the crowd. How am I even close to a dictator? I don't know where you comment concerning black women came in. I don't know this relates this woman writing a novel on a debate board. Godiva I respect what you say. Again, you are trying to please everybody. I am not speak for everybody here. Why don't you ask people here if they want to read her novel. She cutting and pasting from. My words are original. I don't got a diary that I write of. For the record, this is the first time I have actually had a situation like this. Normally we debate a topic. People disagree or agree and we move on. This woman is doing a novel in the room. There is no debate or opinions. Just her writing out of her diary. HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT WANT TO READ YOUR NOVEL YOU MADE UP IN YOUR HEAD! That's all. Have a nice day Godiva.

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  15.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Laurelton Queens, Yes lets keep it REAL and Honest, for once.. PEOPLE is PLURAL! Some PEOPLE have expressed their interest in their story, including myself.... Some have not, and I'm sure that there for a few or some, that may not want to hear it but they do believe in COMMON COURTESY and the right to FREE SPEECH.... As julius26 said "it's not my cup of tea but we all should appreciate freedom of speech". Which by the way I appreciate and applaud his mannerism with his response... Also, getting back to the PEOPLE , you do NOT speak on the behalf of the PEOPLE here on this site!!! So the explaination given by you referring to what and who the People want to hear, is distorted and not applicable!!! We do not live under the government of DICTATORSHIP!!! You say that I insulted you by suggesting to you to "scroll down"? Remember before you answer this question, we are keeping it real. Did julius26 insult you as well, because his sentiments about scrolling down was in agreement? Let me get this straight, I suggest that you scroll down and you are insulted, but when a man suggest the exact thing, you are not insluted??? Two people, one a man, one a woman say the exact same thing, which you are not in agreement with, but you only come after the woman, very interesting and enlightning... I never heard the name Scoff either, so you say that to say what???? This is significant how? I'm sure if we are going to keep it HONEST and keep it REAL, then I guess it's safe to say that there are many names that you and I have never heard before... We all have different lifestyles, different experiences, different opinion's on many different situation's and circumstances. This does not mean that we can claim that our personal differences as the TRUTH... Since when is an INDVIDUAL'S opinion can be eqauted with being the ABSOLUTE TRUTH? If you are in agreement with Kanye's behavior, so be it, you are entitled to your opinion, but is it really the Truth? Kanye had every right to disagree with the decision and I'm sure a lot of people agreed with him, but it's in my opinion that it's a proper time and proper place to be heard, and I don't think this was the way to do it. His actions may have been the result of his diagreement, but it did much more damage than he realizes, not to himself so much, but to us a people. And since we are being REAL and HONEST, this is a image that the world did NOT need to see!!! This is the image that the media was DELIGHTED in sharing with the world! Reuters, UPI and the AP had a field day with this one and I'm sure that the BBC picked it up as well, it's too bad that Kanye did not possess enough self discipline to be courteous in spite of the circumstances, his behavior just perpetuated the stereotypes twoard decent people and especially black men. Since we are keepin it REAL, I'm going on the record by saying this "for all the decent black men who still continue to struggle socially, economically and spirtually and in the eyes of the biased and often prejudice and distorted media, it is an issue that you have to deal with too often. For every two steps you take, there is always, one who is in the backround, behaving badly causing your two steps to be pushed back and it's not SOLEY the black woman's fault for these misguided images"! Last but not least Queens, regardless if you hear/read something's on this site that is not pleasing to you, try and remember this. There has been MANY times that I and other's have not agreed with some of the words that has come form your mouth, however you have a right to speak freely. On occassion you have made valid point's but somehow the point's get lost amid your tirades, your bullying and the inapporpiate name calling. You can be heard without haviing to stoop to name calling and your often attempts at character assasination. You do it often and for the most part people give you the benefit of the doubt, by showing you common courtesy, by not responding in the manner in which you respond to other's, or by not responding to you at all.... Maybe it's time for you to at least try to display some common courtesy towards ALL, it's not difficult!! Respect is a two way street!! The name calling, the disrespect of your elders and your peers alike, is not and should not be how your true destiny is fulfilled and eventually defined.. I do hope and pray that you will love yourself enough to go forward by walking and talking as MAN of GREATNESS and not a MAN of foolishness and destruction!!! Change your heart and your life will change for the better!!! You should want the very best that life has to offer!!! love godiva

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  16.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Oh bTW. I heard Jay-Z was pissed at Beyounce for going against Kanye by inviting T. Swift back up on stage.LOL Hollywood!

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  17.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    I don't know what Kanye West's motivation was EXACTLY but I have a theory.When I first saw it, it was funny for sheer entertainment's sake(OMG LOL). I don't agree with what he did but I believe it had something to do with the outburst of senator Wilson.I felt bad for Taylor Swift because she didn't deserve to be caught in the middle. I believe Kanye chose a country singer because it's the right-wing, mostly southern whites who are opposing the President.These southern rednecks here REALLY love their country music and it ,along with the rebel confederate flag stands for something to them. They believe it's apart of their heritage. So Kanye did a tit-for-tat sort of thing. He wanted to disrespect a symbol that they love. It may sound far-fetched and it is only a theory but I'm around southern whites everyday and I'm not surprised about the senators outburst because that's how they think and behave when it comes to "their way of life". Trust me they have not changed since the days of Wallace. That was just another way of standing in the doorway just as he did.The senator is just pulling a Wallace move for political favor with the southern whites. They are just that bold. Does anyone remember the Malcolm X t-shirts that were so popular at one time particularly the ones with the big "x" on the front? Well, the white kids here started wearing the confederate flag on the front as a big "x" with the phrase underneath that read:"you wear your "x" and I'll wear mine". But if you ask them if they are racist they will tell you no. True story. Peace

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  18.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Dear Godiva I respect your opinion compared to the other black women. But let's be real here. You read some of this self serving novel as "the rest" of the people here and then "scroll through it". You rather tell people to scroll through it. This is an insult just like me jumping on stage like "Kanye" saying the truth. People DO NOT want to read all that shit. I just said what was all on your mind. You act like I just came out and said this. I held my tongue the first couple pages or whatever that posted. All I know is it's some novel she is posting from her imagination. On top of that, it is like she speculating what a white man is thinking. I never heard of a white guy named "Scoff". Then she speculates on "why he does not look at white girls". Perhaps he likes black girls. Maybe he is cross eyed. All I said is put this novel on Ebay or write a book. First time I ever seen Godiva "irate" over a story. Black women and their "novels". God forbid you interrupt them reading it. All hell break loose. God bless Kanye. That white girl got no talent.

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  19.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Laurelton Queens, First of all, it's in my opinion Kanye West made a jackass out of himself!!!! His behavior was emabarrasing and immature!!!!! A real man that is seemingly intelligent, or proclaims to be, would not have behaved in this manner. A Gentleman wouldn't have behaved this way to a woman.. What an idelible image that he left the world with. Wow, talk about media portrayl? I wonder what other type of image, Kanye could have portrayed?????? Second, YES I have, and will continue to encourage Scoff/ Sarah to tell their story and there's NOTHING that You will ever say to convince me to do otherwise!!! If you don't want to read it, then don't, just keep scrolling down. Third, there are a lot of other people, including Ichibod who encouraged Scoff/Sarah to tell their story. Out of the many who has done so, why is it that you feel the need to single out the few that want's to hear their story? And of course the one's you single out, as always, is the women, pulling a Kanye West are we? Fourth, it is not stupid to encourage any story of love, not to people, who have a heart and who is capable of loving other's as well as themselves. Your opinion and definition of STUPIDITY is quite different from other's!! Your opinion is not the Gospel in any one of those 66 Books! Everyone hear has the right to be heard, including Scoff/Sarah. You have no RIGHT or AUTHORITY to say, who is able to post their comments, or love story, on this PUBLIC FORUM!!! I wonder why their story is so unnerving to you??? Please don't tell me that a man of your proclaimed intelligence, and education is EMOTIONALLY UNCOMFORTABLE by a love story???? Contrary to YOUR belief, this site is not just for YOU!!! So I'll let this end for now, because I am more than sure that you have been anxiously awaiting a response and I know it will be a real hardship and a sacrifice for you to take time away from your full and busy life to respond, so I will thank you in advance for your personal sacrifice(s) that you have made to uplift and inspire people and to keep that positive image alive and well. love godiva

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  20.   julius26 says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Mr Queens Its not my cup of tea but as the lady said just scroll through it. We all appreciate freedom of speech

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  21.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Mr. Queens, Thank you for your encouragement, is that the same mouth you kiss your mother with. Show some class, and scroll through it lololo. I refuse to get into some sort of shouting match with you. God Bless you Luv Sarah

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  22.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    LQ, Don't get Obama commenting on your post now. Ha! Classic!

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  23.   Laurelton says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    (Pulling a Kanye West grabbing the mic in the room) Scoff/Sarah Nobody want to read all that shit. Go to Ebay and sell your book or whatever fantasy diary you are writing. This is what happens when Godiva , Tatt and other people encourage people to do stupid shit. (Giving the mic back and leaving)

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  24.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    Now maybe I can go to sleep this has been on my mind all evening, God bless Sarah My look at the time 2:50AM ugh I got a pile of errands to do tomorrow

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  25.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    My friend at work had noticed that Scoff and I were sitting closer to each other at lunch, not by each other but within a safe distance to carry on a conversation. Theirs more to that part I'll explain it later, as I want to get to the advice part on this entry. So one day as we were packing tomatoes, standing next to each other, with on one else with in hearing distance Rose brings up the topic of Scoff, in a point blank statement you and that white boy got something going. Of course I deny it with all the agast expression that I can put togeather, laughing she replies thats okay honey he is good looking, but let me give you some advice. You know I went up north and worked awhile back, when I was their I dated a couple of white guys. At first it was different,then the last one I dated put it to me like this we white men date you black women because we want easy sex and we know you start out at an early age like 11 or 12 so you know whats going on. I'm not saying that boy is like that but just be aware. This started my thoughts going in all different directions, is this what Scoff wants from me, is he like that, all my emotions questioned why is he paying me any attention,their plenty of white girls around here. All of this happened about the time we were starting to really get to know each other, so the decisions that I made over the next few days all were rooted from these events. I think GoDiva wanted to know how I solved all of this well it's coming some of it is not very pretty but it solved or satisfied my feelings, and made our relationship more honest.

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  26.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    My Dearest Friends; As I laid in bed this evening, half asleep I feel this overpowering urge to finish my thoughts. I mentioned two events that happened in the black community that caused me to rethink my budding relationship with Scoff. I said events but one was really advice from an older woman with whom I worked with and become friends. I'll begin with the event first, there was this very beautful teacher that taught at our school, from appearences she was obivously, of mixed races, she claimed Cherokee Indian, which made sense as she came from North Carolina. Through the school year she had very little to do with the black community, never went to any of the school events, in general she was very stand offish. Outside of school we never seen her at any of the stores or any where at all. The local black men that approached her, were quickly rebuffed, I think everyone gets the picture. Toward the middle of the school year she starts showing (pregnant), of course we all (students) assumed she had gotten married, we were quite naive at the time. In the early summer she had the baby, to the overall scorn of the black community the baby for all practical purposes looked white. What a firestorm this started, the preachers talked about it in the churches, the black men called her a yellow n----- whore, it was so cruel. The rumor was that she was going to Pensacola and dating a white Navy pilot, we assumed that he was the father of the baby. Then again the black women would say things like what a shame, in one sentence, then comment that baby is so beautiful, or I seen her in the IGA with it, and that baby looks white. Then one day a moving truck came to her house and started loading all her belongs, standing outside with her was very hansome white man in his white Navy officers uniform holding the baby with his other arm around her, both smiling, and looking happy. After a few weeks it was old news and the gossip turned to something else. The imprint this left in my mind was so vivid, that I would never put that kind of shame on my family.

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  27.   Member says:
    Posted: 16 Sep 09

    scoff/sarah What an amazing story. I really enjoyed it, it's nice to see some positivity on this blog. good luck to SE with your book, and everyone else in whatever endeavor they pursue

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  28.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    I have to back up and take a deep breath, the tears of joy, and sadness,are making my thoughts hard to collect into something coherent. GoDiva, May God bless you every waking moment Again I luv all of you, I know you have place in Heaven LUV Sarah I miss yu big eyes OMG I'm a regular keyboard junkie LUV Sarah

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  29.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    Scoff/Sarah, As always, it's a pleasure to hear from the both of you. The message of love outweighs and overpowers the message of destruction and hatred... Ms. Sarah, it's okay if Scoff does the cooking(lol) Also Sarah, I know that sometimes our lives have some sad parts but that's all the more reason to focus on the goodness, the love, of life... I like to believe that the sadness and dissapointments of life are just as vital, to our well being if not moreso, than the joys of life.. Why? Because if you are still here among the living, when you can find joy in the smallest of things, such as the set of twins I saw being born today, when you can stop and admire the sunrise and the sunset, and most of all, when you know that your GREATEST assets are you relationships, then those sadness of the past was instrumental and vital in the shaping of your character and integrity of the right now, the today. As I listen to your story, the one thing that fascinates me is how love prospered in spite of the circumstances. I'm thinking of four little girl's today(anniversary date) and I'm sure that you know what I'm referring to, but those little girl's was never given a chance to grow up, or to fall in love, yet somewhere in the midst of the rubble, the dynamite, and the destruction, the grief and the sadness, somebody was still falling in love. Keep your story alive, even the sad part, someone will be listening. So in memory of Addie Mae, Denise, Cynthia, and Carole, who never got the chance to love a man or be loved by a man, tell your story!!! love godiva

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  30.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    SEWilde, Everything that you need is right there in your heart, you can't go wrong!!! If there is anything that I can do to help you in any way, please don't hesitate to call on me... To quote Granny and Mother " If I can help someone along the way, then my living will not be in vain"! love godiva

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  31.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    SanAntoniBeauty, I was stopping by and noticed that you graced us with your presence. You have a beautiful and endearing spirit, how blessed you are!! Just know that you are in our thoughts, even in your absence. Don't stay away too long(lol) love godiva

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  32.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    Ms. SanAntonioBeauty; It's with great pleasure, that I'm able to communicate with such a wonderful person. Bless yu Sarah Ms. SeWilde; By God lady what a plot, You have such a God given talent, I can't wait. I'm getting the rest of my memories togeather, but first their are two events that happen at or about this time that made an impact on my actions. It really was not between myself and Scoff; it was strictly in the black community. Tomorrow I will try and explain or narrate what they were. GoDiva miss you my friend I never thought I would find so much joy talking about my past. I never knew that people wanted to hear about mine and Scoff's perils. Let me warn you it does have a very sad part. Please believe me it's not they lived happly ever after. I luv all of you Sarah

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  33.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    SanAntonioBeauty, It is indeed a pleasure to see you back again. I followed some of your earlier posts, then you were gone. Take care. SE

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  34.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    Scoff/Sarah, Miss Sarah: I am grateful and proud you have shared your history with grace, dignity, and humor, and you have both lived to tell the tale. I am sure the both of you had many difficult times being together. You and Scoff are living proof, that two people from differing backgrounds, (and races) can truly be attracted to one another, just because they like each other. I will continue with the next portion of the story, but I need to give you a little background before I pick up where I left off with Kaye. This interracial tale of Michael and Kaye is a modern day love story, and a voyeuristic view into what takes place in the minds of Michael and Kaye. Michael Levy, a young 32 year old freelance Restoration Conservationist, repairs paintings. Due to the irregularity in his income, Michael is partially supported by his parents, who run a successful escrow business. Shortly after meeting Kaye, he eventually falls in love with her. Michael’s whole world has been turned upside down. Kaye Ellington, a 42 year old real estate agent, is a widow. She meets Michael on her way to inspect a piece of property she owns in Northern California. Over time, she falls hopelessly in love with this young man, who is ten years younger than she. She has a prosperous business relationship with his parents, who are her escrow agents. Michael wants to start a family, Kaye’s children are grown. Due to his strong family ties, and his sense of Jewish tradition, Michael does not know how to incorporate Kaye into his life without experiencing the wrath of his family and community. Due to these fears, Michael wants to, but cannot make a commitment to Kaye. Thus begins this narrative, the saga of a torrid romance between these two lovers who desperately want to be together, but who do not know how to traverse the mind fields of their differences. This tale explores a wide range of emotions, and the self imposed restrictions of Michael and Kaye. Many questions arise as to how they solve a host of problematic issues, and the decisions that are made within the confines of societal pressure. Now the next time, I will continue with the story of Kaye. With much mad love and respect, always... SE

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  35.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    Ms. Godiva, Your words provide me much solace as I step outside of my comfort zone and become public with my book. Thanks again for your support. SE

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  36.   Member says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    @Sites there is a whole lot of BS around here...

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  37.   sites says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    bull shit... as usual

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  38.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    OK Dominique! Its official! I'm going to the highest Tennesee courthouse in the land. I'm going to petition them to make you 2% my child cause 85kguy loves you to the bone!!!!

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  39.   Dominique says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    84kguy, you are hilarious! How did you pick up on the fact that I was Afrocentric? Wait, did I say that? Let me shut up. Ha! Ha!

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  40.   SanAntonioBeauty says:
    Posted: 15 Sep 09

    Hi everyone. I am so glad to be posting here again. Some new faces have lead me back to this site. Faces like bigeyes, Ichibod, 85Kguy, godiva, SEWilde, Azz, and many more I failed to mention. I want to pay special honor to Scoff and Sarah who embodies what this site is all about. Your story is compelling, and inspiring given the historical perspective. "Something New" has nothing on you two. Selma Hayek and Matthew Perry made a movie call "Fools Rush In" about a interracial couple, Hispanic and white which did fairly well. Given the tolerant climate we are in, your story, seems to me, will be well receive by a wider audience. Have you considered turning your story into a screen play, Scoff and Sarah? Anyway, I am awaiting to heard about the events that lead up to the first kiss. Vaya con Dios

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  41.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 14 Sep 09

    My heart is swelling with pride all of you have so much class, I just hope I can equal you ladies, I'm so proud of all you. Now Ms. Godiva, I will have to let Scoff do the cooking, as someone has already mentioned those men from the Medaterrian area love to cook for their ladies, Scoff is half Greek I'll explain his name one day it's Greek, or was at one time until it got butchered in the local dialect lololo. You name it and he'll cook it, I'm ashamed he knows more about cooking soul food than I. I'll keep the wine on ice slightly swirled, as per Scoff's directions, lololo I'am truly am proud of you Ladies. I'm working on what happened next, then the OMG I KISSED a White Boy lololo A little excited date night is coming up Bless all of you Big eyes I miss you Love You Sarah

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  42.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 14 Sep 09

    SEWilde, Once again, I appreciate and applaud your mannerism on how you replied to everyone that replied to you.(September 13, 2009). I believe in the "uplifting and encouraging" of people. In this day and age, we tend to hear more of the "tearing down and the discouragement", life is too short and too precious to have that mentality, day in and day out. Your book is a part of your destiny, and your destiny can not and will not be altered or detered by other's, no man or woman has that type of power!!! We are who we are not, by word's alone, but by our deeds and our committment to love and serve humanity. I'm proud of you and extremely happy for you! love godiva

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  43.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 14 Sep 09

    scoff/sarah, Happy Monday! I hope all is well! I just finished reading Scoff's most recent addition, very pleased and you did an outstanding job Scoff(smile). So what was the solution that Sarah came up with? I can't wait to hear more. Sarah, thanks for the invite for some wine, just let me know when I can take you up on it(smile). If you throw in a good old home cooked meal with the wine, I'll accept that too(smile). I will travel! In the meantime, wishing you both the very best that life has to offer, and much, much more!!!! Thanks again for sharing your lives! love godiva

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  44.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 14 Sep 09

    Ms. SEWilde Your such a tease, more!MORE! When I get back from the Piggley Wiggley, I hope to set down with a cup of earl gray and read more of your book so please, just a little more. Or tell me where I can buy the book. LOLOLO LUV yu Sarah

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  45.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 14 Sep 09

    Scoff/Sarah, Ironically, there are similarities between your life history, and my fiction "Flames of Passion." Especially since it's told from both his and her perspective. This first book is a shorter version of the Novel. It's a small book, and you can't see how it's structured, but each page has a colorful background, and a poem or vignette is printed on each page. The first half of the book is told by Kaye, and the second half is told by Michael. You have shared your history with me, I will share my book with you, a page or two at a time. As told by Kaye: I am black, he is white; he is Jewish, I am not, I am older, he is younger, he wants children, mine are grown. We are perfect for each other, and totally wrong for each other. We could not be more opposite. Through the adversity, our love for each other has not diminished. And that is the beginning of the saga. I will continue the next time. Thanks for the wine. Keep it cold for me! LOL!!! Peace and Blessings to you and yours, With much love always SE

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  46.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 14 Sep 09

    Ms. SEwilde; Lolo it took Sarah and myself a little while to firgue out the U R @, but we did Sarah lives in a small town out side of Moble myself I live aprox 20 miles away in Florida closer to to the coast. Again thanks for your encouragement. Scoff Ms. SE wild; When Scoff came over for coffee this morning we looked at your post, like Scoff I wish to thank you for your encouragement. We have set up a date night for this coming Wendesday, in the meantime we will be thinking about trying to get our thoughts or memories togeather, as to what transpired over the next two weeks, that led up to the BIG KISS, omg I kissed a white boy. Please take in to account this is 1964, in rural south Alabama, we were both I guess around 16, I had never in my life said over 3 words to a white person my own age male or female. I'll save a glass of wine for you, if you promise to share a few pages of your book, lolol luv yu Have blessed day Sarah

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  47.   SEWilde says:
    Posted: 13 Sep 09

    Dominique - reply to 9-10-09 comment to 85Kguy: I was glad you were able to provide clarification regarding your situation. It was helpful in further understanding your circumstances. Be strong in your convictions, and be able to stand by them. julius26 - reply to 9-11-09 comment: Yes, I am preaching to the choir, an IR situation with a little more adult content, and a not-so-neat ending. Sarah - reply to 9-11-09 comment: Glad to be able to catch the latest edition. Ah, memories of young IR love! It warms my heart to know that you and Scoff are still an 'item.' BTW, we are all students of life, no matter the age. Thanks for the invite for a glass of wine. LOL! Ms. Godiva61 - reply to 9-11-09 comment: Thank you so very much for the encouragement! I'm sure I'll need it, as I have no idea how this book will be received. Flames of Passion, a fictional tale of mature IR love, with a twist, is sure to generate much controversy. Tommy - reply to 9-11-09 comment: Interesting theory. I love being adored by a man, and I treat him like a King, with deep respect, and admiration; I expect the same in return. I treat both black and white men equally. For me, it's about men and women, and not black and white. I enjoy the company of all men. If you don't prefer to date black women, that's fine. That's your choice, I don't see anything wrong with that. urbangurl - reply to 9-11-09 comment: When I was younger, the curiosity factor as a black woman to be with a white man, was mutual in some relationships. At this stage in time, my curiosity factor has been replaced by 2 experienced, secure adults choosing to be with one another, regardless of color. Scoff - reply to 9-13-09 portion of story: I thoroughly appreciate seeing your side of the story. It makes me smile to hear that you (and Sarah) are sharing your history. Looking forward to the next installment. Miss Sarah, "Where U @?" LOL! With mad love and much respect to all! (even if not replied to) SE

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  48.   Scoff/Sarah says:
    Posted: 13 Sep 09

    Scoff's version: Sound asleep I felt this poking on my shoulder, then a very meek voice hey boy, hey boy. Opening my eyes I focused with much effort I might add. As I viewed this colored girl/woman standing arms lenght or greater from me kinda like a person approaching a rattle snake. Fully awake now I realized that it was one of the colored girls that worked in the packing shed, at first I thought it was one of the older women. Under the big straw hat and oversized shirt I had hardly noticed any of the difference in ages. ( they all look the same mentality) Studying the face under the hat I thought damn she's kind of cute, even though she had the deer in headlight look about her. Looking around I noted all the workers had left, I do remember asking what time it was, noting a shrug from her as she didn't have a watch, my now I noticed she had backed up to maybe ten feet or so from me. Pointing to my book she commented something about the papers and she had put them all back in the book. This brought a few four letter words from me ending with I guess I won't play any ball next year. Pausing a few seconds, then this colored girl preseded to tell me I was just missing a few steps in solving the problems (I honestly thought yea right I'm sure your goin show me) then I made the assine comment colored people study Algebra, more as a question than statement. As I picked up the book and pulled out the test, Sarah blurted rather indigently, she had already completed Algebra 2. I think I said something like okay what's the answer to this one, as I pointed to one of the problems that I had missed, (which was most of them), reluctantly she came closer as she then explained the problem, like a light came on in my brain I understood what I was missing and quickly worked a couple of problems than asked her if they were right. My now she had removed that floppy ass straw hat and had unbuttoned her shirt, (I to this day accuse her of seducing me) lolo oh she did have have a tight t-shirt on but still that girl was in modern terms hot. We were sitting on a stack of packing crates not really saying anything just watching the rain. Being a young man with a super charged load of hormones, I would sneek looks over at her her copper skin her cute petite face and that smile when I could coax one out of her melted my heart. My now our comfort level had progressed to the point that we talking about school family and what ever came up. Thats when I realized this colored girl was way ahead of me in the smarts department, accompanied with more class than I've ever seen in any one woman colored or white. In a different time and place I would of picked her up and carried her home to meet Moma. I finally admitted to her later that I had to fight the urge to take her in my arms and lay one big wet passionate kiss on her. That did happen but about 2 weeks later lolo, for now I kinda just limited myself to benigh touches on her hand or arm. This went on until almost dark, when we both reluctantly agreed that we had better get going as we didn't want to walk home in the dark. Almost kissed her when we parted had both of hands in mine looking down into those brown eyes I thanked her for all the help. I've never in my life had wanted to kiss someone that bad, I'm glad I didn't she would of run off, I was in love right down to the tip of my boots. We both walked away stopping frequently to look back at each other. As I walked home I could hardly wait to get to work the next day to maybe grap a few minutes with her as she had me under her spell. Reaching home it hit me what the hell are you doing this is a colored girl , you can't do this. The next two weeks were pure emotional hell as we tried to reach some sort understanding, about our feelings, thanks to Sarah to come up with a solution. I'm telling you that lady is one smart classy woman, even at the age of 16 she had more wisdom than a much older person. Thanks to all those folks out their listening to our memories. We have much more to tell if Sarah's want to yes all math problems were over never had any more problems with math lololo Love and blessings Scoff

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  49.   urbangurl says:
    Posted: 12 Sep 09

    Hi, I have dated mostly black men, recently i di did date for a period two white men. They approached me. However, these relationships were short lived because I found out they were just "curious". It was a turn off.

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  50.   Tommy says:
    Posted: 12 Sep 09

    I have a theory. I think white men like black women because they make them feel more like men. Black women are more likely to have more define "man and woman" roles. I am a white guy and I have not had any interest in dating black girls. I have noticed this in my friends though. I do not think they are aware of it themselves. Any one care to confirm my theory?

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