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Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 06 Sep 09

    Scoff and Sarah, My goodness, Sarah! You and Scoff's posts are exactly what this site is about. Just pay attention to the accolades and encores to your stories and ignore the rest. Obviously, you don't have the same issues that others here have. Be our teachers.

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  2.   Member says:
    Posted: 06 Sep 09

    Wow (putting down drink...LMAO)...some of you (primarily men) need a hefty dose of love (from any human being that finds you worthy). I've read this blog and for the most part I am very pleased to hear about the positive experiences that most have shared when it comes to interracial dating. I'm glad that Black women have finally decided that they are worth love regardless of the race or ethnicity from which that love comes. I am an AA woman who is highly educated, employed, beautiful, confident and extremely happy with my life and my life choices. I am very attracted to European/British men, not really interested in black or white american men. I just think that european men have a greater appreciation for black women. At the end of the day sista's we have to take care of ourselves and do what's best for us and what pleases us. At some point it has to be about you and not some sad bitter misguided fool troll who continues to post his anti-interracial dating foolishness on an interracial website...(picking up drink and taking a sip...lol)...so easy... anyways...considering that love has become increasingly difficult to find and black women's chances of marrying a black man are increasingly diminishing, love yourselves and whomever else you want to, because when the lights go out it's all the same. P.S. I am all for starving the beast...(putting down drink)... ciao

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  3.   kboxer says:
    Posted: 05 Sep 09

    As a white man, I guess for me it's opposites attract. I never noticed black women until I was in the army, and then, Wow. Relationships always start with, well, lust, physical desire. More and more black women are taking us white guys because they mesmerize us with their round booties, full lips and big dark eyes. I watch either one of the Williams sisters play tennis and drool! Black women have a feisty irreverence about them. They are very sassy and that is sexy. Then we find that a particular black woman has a wonderful personality and very intelligent, etc. and it often works out. It is also role reversal. White men have exploited black women in the past but now black women have become our ruling queens when we get into a relationship with them. I have never been in a relationship with a black woman but I'm willing to try.

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  4.   SanAntonioBeauty says:
    Posted: 05 Sep 09

    Scoff and Sarah, please don't go. I have been silent but it doesn't mean I haven't been appreciated. Your story is a pleasant relief from all the nonsense on this site. Besides, what the two of you have is real not hypothetical. Please stay and continue with the story of your precious love.

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  5.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 04 Sep 09

    Thank YOU! The voice of reason.

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  6.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 04 Sep 09

    I have never asked this before in my life. But could a white man please step in and lead the discussion! My god! The topic is "Why White Men Love Black Women" Tom Joyner show this morning had a lovely couple on. A white man with a black woman. He loved her, proclaimed his love on national radio, they have been dating for 12 years. She stated that she wanted to marry him. She just wanted to finish culinary school and get established in her culiniary career first. He loved her so much that he has been waiting 12 years. He stated that he worked in the newpaper industry. Robin Thicke , a popular R&B singer is a white man married to a black woman. She is involved in his very succesful R&B sisnging career. One of his new songs talks about how he wishes he could walk down the street with his wife like a other couples. Tell us what is love? Why you love your black wife/girlfriend? What type of black woman you want to marry or get serious about if you do not have a black girlfriend or wife? Oh well, I did my best (lol)! Lets all start over and focus on inviting responses from white men.

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  7.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Sep 09

    Dear Gene I admit my grammar can be bad. Your grammar was horrible in the previous post. I just couldn't read what you said in the previous post. You have improved on this recent post. I am a blog legend and you are mad about that. You can call me racist. Name me some racist things I have done other than subjective comments I have said. I hardly talk about white people. I talk about white men picking black women last. I don't see the racism you are talking about. I would respect your opinions if you didn't have a personal vendetta against me. It went from I want to fight you to your "racist". How many black friends you have? How many white people invite black people over for dinner? How many white people go to black church and vice versa? Society is comfortable within their own racial culture and neighborhoods. You claim you have read my blogs. Then you should know I am open to a difference of opinions. I never tell people how to think. I grew up in the 80's. White guys started fights with me. I just retaliated. Now if you want to call me racist for that. That is your choice. I really don't harbor resentment at all towards white guys who were "racist in the past". I always believe in Karma. It is really sad that white men got the nerve to act like victims. You are not a victim because you have no idea what black people went through. I am not going to apologize for none of my comments. Man look for the Maia Campbell Story from the TV sitcom "In the house". The most controversial post of my career. By the way, use paragraphs when you write to me. It seems like I am teaching you. You mentioned veterans. I am not a veteran. I am a blog legend. I have been in the game for a minute now. From Craigslist rants and raves to my own successful blog. The transition is working well. Get in the game before you talk about me man. Get your own blog since you are so jealous. You never talk about the topic. What are your views on anything? Good day

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  8.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 04 Sep 09

    Now Queens,,,,, you still trying???? You see how you look weak??? You got nothing so you try and point out my grammar? Come on queens you can do better then that! First off this is a blog, and this particular blog like most doesn’t allow you to write formally. You do know this yes???? And let me give you some advice, something I have used in my day to day living experience. When I don’t want things to back fire on me I try not to point faults of others just in case they could back fire on me. Your day to day posts are full of miss spellings, grammar errors, and punctuation issues! For you to only have that as a last option on me is really weak on your part! Sad actually! Especially from the Blogger that is “Taking over the blog game”!!! Now back to your post! Racism is not a “White” thing! It can’t be. It is not possible even in the definition, it does not state this. Like I have had to do so many times in the past with you, time for Class Queens!!! Ok class today’s Lesson is on Racism and its definition! Now pay attention queens or I’m going to bust your a$$ in front of the class and make you clean the chalk boards after school! Racism is a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities. That racial difference produces an inherent superiority of a particular race. Racism is also racial prejudice or discrimination. Racism can also be a hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. Racism is a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. Now just because you read another blog one time and heard a guy or girl say that “black folk can not be racist” doesn’t make it true queens! Come on queens your smarter then that! Now is there a lot of racism on black folk coming by way of white people? Yes! Is there racism by way of black folk toward white folk? Yes! Its all the same! Even the average Joe can skim through all these post on this page and point out the racist people. There have been many racist white people post in here and there has been many racist black folk post in here! Am I racist? No! Is godiva61, tatted, Ich, smooches, world citizen, BeautyBeyondWords, or any other Veteran of this blog racist? No! Of the vets in here queens you are the only racist one. Why you even post in here is beyond me? Not only are you racist against White people but you are racist against your own people? Quite sad it is. But none the less funny as hell! If anything else you are in here to make all the good people laugh! And the only time you get any play is when you feed off a passer by. After a few back and fourth post with you they then relies that you are just some old racist, angry, crazy guy and they bounce! The vets in here only post back toward you when they feel like using you as a punching bag. You make it to easy! Once again I’m done playing with you, for a lil while! It is fun blowing you out of the water from time to time, but it is so easy it is boring and makes me tired. I will halla at you again when you say something super ridiculous like you usually do! And oh by the way queens, I have been to your blog! But only once. That was all it took to see how F#cked up you truly are! Your blog is nothing more then a POP UP spam screen, Nobody wants to read that Sh#t! Nobody! Oh and just for fun! Go out and buy the latest version of WORD, take any number of your post and Paste them in! I think you would get a kick out of how bad your Grammar is!

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  9.   TexasChica503 says:
    Posted: 03 Sep 09

    Greetings All: I am new to this blog site. But just reading from the last few blogs.....you guys are soooo intense!!! In the immortal words of Rodney King: "Can't we just all get along?" lol Unfortunately you guys are not likely to ever see each other's point of view...so just stop trying and agree to disagree. That's my two cents! Holla!

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  10.   Member says:
    Posted: 03 Sep 09

    Dear Gene You need an English and grammar class. You are very emotional right now. I would correct your whole post but I just do not have the time to do so. Just slow down and carefully type your thoughts. Again, make an effort to stay on the topic. I highly doubt you could do anything to me. That is not bragging at all. I try to stay in shape at the YMCA and engage in other activities. I work with troubled teenage boys "tougher" than you everyday. There is nothing you can say to me that would bother me. The only thing you ever stole was money out of your mother's purse. You never bullied anybody so stop it. Let me clarify it for you again. Black people cannot be racist. We never made any laws that hindered white people from being successful. We didn't pass legislation like "Jim Crow" laws. We did not promote segregation. We never discriminated against white people while wanting them to buy "our products". Listen go back to school and think about "the big picture". I will beat you physically and mentally. Good luck.

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  11.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 03 Sep 09

    You welcome it??? How could you not welcome it you cant blog for SH#T! And where did I in any of my statements act tough???? Queens I have only had to tell your BI#Ch ass One time that I would split your wig! I only need to say my points one time! Everybody remembers what I say when I say it! Thats what you call respect! You see its like this! If the majority of people, weather it be in the street or in the Blog, think that your a punk! All I can say is Dam!!!!!! Now people here in this Blog Respect me! They respect Ich! But everybody thinks your a punk! Now where I grew up you couldn't call me a punk on any day of the week! That is worse then getting called any other B#TCHES and Hoes and so on and so foruth!!! But it is what it is! The subject of the Blog! You want me to stick to it! Ok I will! But if your B@TCH ass wants me to stick to the subject then you need to bump it on down and beat your Mother F#CKING Feet on up out of here! Because you have never stayed on "Subject" in this blog! Title is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "Why white men love the black woman" Now blog on that or don't F#CKING Post! Once again I told you about Posting toward me Queens! Every time you do I ruin you! When I post toward you people laugh at you! I'm like that bully that used to take your Mother F#UKING Snack money in school! And I'm the gullible Bastard???? I post toward you in hopes that you will say something so I can take away from you, like I have done since day one! Your a weak target! Your like a wildebeest in a lion field! Here let me FU$K you up some more! Now you say "Everybody is racist to some degree" When you had just said "Black men can’t be racist period. I will say it again, black men can’t be racist. We react to the “racism” by other people." You see what I am talking about! You don't even remember what you have said from post to post and expect to be taken seriously! What a Dumb A$$! Racism is not just a black thing! Every person in any race can be racist! The fact that you even try to use that statement shows your ignorance!

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  12.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 03 Sep 09

    tatted2death, Good to see you! Hope the cloud's are slowly dissappearing and the sun is emerging..... I'm glad that you are laughing!!!! love godiva

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  13.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 03 Sep 09

    LMAO@"INTERNET THUGS"

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  14.   Member says:
    Posted: 03 Sep 09

    (Listening to Gene) Your such a gullible bastard. Ich has his opinions but he is a moderate on this issue. I am more on the extreme but he is no fan of sellout black women that bash black men. Your so stupid you don't even see the big picture. That is like a Republican saying he is conservative. Ich is a Republican and I am a conservative. We do not agree all the time. I don't mind other people blogging. I welcome it. That is how you get your message across. These sellout black women will take me serious. They read my blogs. Even you read it. So stop trying to act tough on here. By the way, stick to the topic. Everybody is racist to some degree or prejudice. Now you figure out that statement.

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  15.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 03 Sep 09

    You see that! Ichibod!!! The man!!! Every time he post it is dead on! He says what needs to be said! He doesn't cross any lines and what he says is real! He looks at SH#T from all prospectives! You can totally tell he isn't racist! He doesn't point the finger, he hits it dead on every F#CKING Time! Talk about your blogs all you want! Your the only one reading them! Oh and I'm sorry a couple of other people of the billions on this plant! Ich I think you need to start a blog! Bet you have more followers in the first five minutes of it being up, then this Crazy A$$ mother F#CKER has since his blogs conception! Nobody going to ever take you serious Queens! Every time you post you lose your audience after they read the first two sentences! Your such a douche bag its funny!!

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  16.   Member says:
    Posted: 02 Sep 09

    Dear Gene Like I care if you think I am racist. I never said black men were "the problem" concerning media images. I don't know if it is a white guy that has a vendetta or whatever the case. He said "bitter black men" is the cause of black women being degraded on videos and television. Maybe he didn't mean to say it like that. The real person always comes out when you get them angry. He walked "into" that one. Some white men got some nerve calling me racist. LOL Black men can't be racist period. I will say it again, black men can't be racist. We react to the "racism" by other people. I don't give a fuck how you feel about it. I will even back up my statement about never being racist. We don't look over our shoulder when a white man is coming. We don't lock our car when a white man is coming. We don't get nervous. We don't alter our lives due to a next man! When the last time you saw a black man run from a white man that wasn't a police officer? I got nothing against white men but they sure don't alter my life in a way. I don't think about them. If you don't like what I say come do something about it! You won't, so you stay in your little white community where your comfortable. You just want black women for sex. You don't want them in their own community. You want them to come to YOUR comfort zone. You tell Tameka "Uh can you come to the Mayberry and let's walk around". Again, I haven't seen MANY white guys in a black neighborhood living with black women. Their are exceptions, but exceptions do not count in my book. If I do recall white men buy rap music with black women shaking their ass. They are the biggest consumers. Yea it is the black man fault you masturbate to black women on rap videos after you purchase the CDS. LOL Where John at, I want hear more! Man look for new post on my blog. "Dynasty" How the sellout black girl lost her dignity and respect. Good morning

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  17.   scoff/sarah says:
    Posted: 02 Sep 09

    I would rather not wade in on all of this he said she type comments. As Scoff had said earlier, there is no beginning or end to this debate. It is rather obivious that my post is not the kind to be on this site.

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  18.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 02 Sep 09

    "2)in movies, big momma’s house and norbit , potrayign her as nothing but fat and loud 3)These portrals of her have been spread worldwide for millions to see via, cinema, msuic television and the internet." This started long ago with "Mammy" from "Gone With The Wind", the first portrayal of a black woman on film by an actual black woman. If you haven't realized, when an image is portrayed on television, people in real life try to imitate it or sheepishly believe that it is the way they should be. Whether it be skinny, muscular, thug, large chested, metrosexual, swagged, ghetto, hoochie, jock, valley girl, and so forth. Even though every one has to make their own choices, be it moral or ethical, white record labels and movie studios demand the roles to be played and out and there are plenty of happless young fools who gladly play along. Selling yourself out is an easy way to get paid. Men and women of all races do it just the same whether it be via rap video, reality show, drug dealing, prostitution, exotic dancing, talk show, or Youtube. You see, it's just far too easy to put so much on to black men.

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  19.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 02 Sep 09

    Your Such a racist B#@CH Queens! I love that you keep posting making yourself look more and more stupid!

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  20.   Member says:
    Posted: 02 Sep 09

    Dear John I see you "lashed out" at me. Now black men are "Responsbile for the negative images of black women". OH REALLY, Those damn black men that own the Hollywood studios and the studios that produce televisions show. Yea it was ALL OUR FAULT. Even better, it was all the black man's FAULT. When Naomi "Shambles" said white men are using the "recession" NOT to hire more black models. Reference right here. http://bossip.com/148207/swirl-champion-naomi-campbell-pulls-the-race-card/ Excerpt from the article Naomi Campbell recently put big companies on blast claiming that they won’t use non-white models for their campaigns. In a recent tirade, Naomi put big companies on blast stating that they wouldn’t put a woman of color as the face of their campaign due to the recession and the risk of products not selling: “This year, we have gone back all the way that we had advanced,” she says. “I don’t see any black woman, or of any other race, in big advertising campaigns.” In fact, Campbell gained support from designer, Bruce Oldfield who said: It’s absolutely true that black models will not be as popular for advertising companies and magazine covers as white girls,” the designer tells Mandrake. “In a recession, it’s probably doubly difficult for black girls to get a booking.” Oh yea it is the black man's fault rightttt. Read the statics over you coward. More black men graduate college than go to prison. So stop trying act like a tough guy. I don't give a fuck about youtube. While white men were financing the black men with their record companies to degrade black women. Another fact, some artists said "the middle aged white man" didn't want to hear positive music AT ALL. Yea the middle aged white man that listens to demos and picks and choose which coon will sell records. So give me that bullshit about black men. I will beat you like that white boy that is currently in intensive care that mouthed off with his black girlfriend at a group of black boys. Have a nice day.

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  21.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 01 Sep 09

    Just wanted to thank you , rhochi23, for you honesty...if only more MEN (of the entire human race) saw women in the light that you do (hopefully you open your view to include white and other women as well......in fact why not just include EVERYONE....lol). Every human soul is precious and connected to one another. ...Also I would like to address those still living with these "thug-o-da-year" mentalities. The ones that think you are soft because you are a "peace-lover" (NOT necessarily "politically correct....lol)......the ones so caught up in the past, they would rather be left behind than broaden their mind. They live in littl/small/tiny corners of the universe and think that they can tell you about everything under the sun. I mean, I see too many people so AFRAID of what it might mean to leave their "hood"/familiar suroundings that they grasp onto ideals older that the first "Thundercats" episode. The gangsta/"put-a-cap-in-yo-azz" way of life may have it's place but it is only going to get you so far......IF YOU LACK RESPECT FOR YOUSELF AND OTHERS......YOU ARE TRULY DOOMED. Just because you don't "come from" positivity does NOT mean it's not meant for you. After you get off of "mom's apron strings", your world is what YOU make it. Of course, you have to deal with "society"....but why let it dictate your own personal views????. If you ask me these are the types that are so concerned with "politics" and how they fit in. To step out of the corner that society has carved out for you would be too great a risk to your "rep", right???? Sorry about the "soap-box" post........This is more in response to a mentality that I know is getting the best of what could be some REALLY GOOD MEN. Peace an Blessings tatted2death

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  22.   scoff says:
    Posted: 01 Sep 09

    Big eyes what do you think of older white gentlemen ( just kidding)besides Sarah just slapped me on the back of the head lololo. How I met Sarah Okay this is my take on how it all started, I was a sophmore in high school, or well I had just finished my sophmore year, to be exact. I had failed the last semister of Algebra, but being a talker and yes a bit of a con artist, I had talked the teacher and with the help of the coach (Baseball) into letting me study and take the final over and maybe if I scored well enough I could bring my grade up. My Mother was very rigid with her rules; if I failed anything I was to stop all extra activties. So to impress my Mother that I was really trying hard I carried my Algebra book with me every day. Of course as you all can guess I never opened the damn thing. All right so here it was Sunday evening all is quite around the house when one of my buddies comes by, with an inviation to go down to the creek as another one our friends is waiting with a whole gallon of homemade wine that he had slipped from his grandpaw's shed. Needless to say we drink the whole gallon or tried to, slipping back into the the house I quickly fell asleep. When my mother got me up in he morning I was pretty well hung over, not wanting her to get any indication of what I did last night I grapped my lunch and oh yes the algebra book as I took off to the truck farm. Well ,the morning went okay, but God almighty took pity on me around 2 pm lightnig and thunder caused all of workers to gang up at the packing house for shelter. I eased around and found me a nice quiet cool spot layed down and opened up my math book and maybe just maybe lasted about 1 or 2 pages, before I was lost in a deep sleep. Now I know some of you are saying what the heck does this have to do with meeting Sarah. Bare with me I just wanted to set up the circumstances it will help you understand how we truly met. So now you can picture me sound asleep in a secluded spot, my math book laying on the floor. Nobody can tell the rest of this better than Sarah, so while I got her hemmed up over here this evening she promised to finish this up. She is going to make it into another post so hang with us a little longer. We love you folks Scoff & Sarah

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  23.   john05 says:
    Posted: 01 Sep 09

    Mr Laurelton Queens Says: August 31st, 2009 at 9:01 pm ANOTHER BITTER MAN black women want to drag down college educated black men? HAVE YOU NOT READ THE LATEST STATISTICS? BLACK WOMEN OUT NUMBER BLACK MEN IN COLLEGE 7 TO 1 If it is hard for them to find companionship, based on these statistics the majorty of fault lies with black men. AND ON THE QUESTION OF BLACK WOMEN'S ATTITUDE After being abused, bullied and victimised till a man breaks her down and represents her to the world as the typical black women. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmTXH3F0Us0 BLACK MEN HAVE VICTIMISED BLACK WOMEN IN MANY A WAYS 1) hip hop, calling their wome, hoes, b!tches, sluts 2)in movies, big momma's house and norbit , potrayign her as nothing but fat and loud 3)These portrals of her have been spread worldwide for millions to see via, cinema, msuic television and the internet. IF ANYTHING THE BLACK MAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STEREOTYPING OF THE BLACK WOMEN WE SEE TODAY. They are now starting to make better choices, DATE OUTSIDE THEIR RACE, which men like you hate AS YOU CAN NO LONGER CONTROL AND BULLY BLACK WOMEN. Here's a great video on why some black women may have attidues, AN EXPLANATION BY A BLACK MAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmTXH3F0Us0

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  24.   rhochi23 says:
    Posted: 01 Sep 09

    godiva61, Azrazyel I understand and honest I agree with what you have to say. First I want to say that I don’t hate anybody or any race. And I do agree that if a white man can treat any women better then another man than they have every right to be happy. Although I’m really trying to overcome this feeling I still have that UGHH. In me sometimes. I actually agree on the left side of my brain with everything and UGHH on the right side of my brain. I just want to be clear that because me personally and other of course hold the black women above anything else but God as a man I just recognize game. And I see that in my dealing with some not all white men. I say to myself hasn’t the black women been through enough and then get played by a white dude because he is curious. You are right that every white man is not an ass hole. I guess if I could talk to more white men on why that love a black women so much then I could see it from there view. I’m no ones protector or regulator by any means. Just in my heart I want to best for our black women. And I don’t mean like I own them, I mean that every black women I see feel like it’s my reasonability to protect. Not saying that makes me right or wrong, maybe it’s something my mother and grandmother taught me. And yes I know that black women are more than capable of taking care of themselves. So all try and open my brain up here and give this thing a chance. Thank s everybody..

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  25.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 01 Sep 09

    LOL Hello everyone!

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  26.   smooches says:
    Posted: 01 Sep 09

    You know, life is full of imperfect things . . . . . and imperfect people. I'm not the best housekeeper or cook. What I've learned over the years is:that learning to accept each other's faults - and choosing to celebrate each other's differences - is one of the most important keys to creating a healthy, growing, and lasting relationship. And that's my prayer for you all today. That you will learn to take the good,the bad, and the ugly parts of your life and lay them at the feet of God . . . . Because in the end, He's the only one who will be able to give you a relationship or understanding. We could extend this to any relationship in fact - as understanding is the base of any relationship, be it a husband-wife or parent-child or friendship! "Don't put the key to your happiness in someone else's pocket - keep it in your own." "Keep seeking understanding, acceptance, and love for all." Smooches to All!

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  27.   Member says:
    Posted: 01 Sep 09

    Man let me jump in this conversation. I don't bash black women. I just tell the truth about them. I speak about their stinky attitudes in High school. I talk about them dating 30 years old men while they was in High school. Some of them had a 30 year old boyfriend in middle school! I talk about them dating Jermaine the thug and being left with a baby. Now they want to drag down hard working black men that went to college and amounted to something. Now you want to hate on white woman dating college educated black men! They got some god damn nerve after causing black men to date outside of their race! The reason I speak on few positive things is because positive is not where I come from. I think the problem with everybody including white men, and sellout black women, they want to be politically correct. They rather "duck" the tough topics and questions. Why won't white men just come out and say they would never date a black girl from the "hood". There is no shame in that. Some black men don't even date black girls from the hood. A matter of fact, I remember when jungle fever came out. Black men couldn't even walk in a black neighborhood with a white woman. You was literally taking your life in your own hands. God forbid get caught in a white girl neighborhood. This happened to my cousin. He lived in Wydanch Long Island (Black hood). The white girls was literally drive their BMW's and "nice cars" from wealthy neighborhoods like Brentwood , Smithtown, Deer Park and Dix Hills to visit black men in the roughest part of Long Island NY. Of course the black girls never liked this. So they would "start fights" with the white girls. I remember when particular time I was in the movie theater. This black couple was in front of me. This interracial couple sat next to me in Sunrise Movie Theater ( A black man with a white woman). All I know the black couple in front of me got agitated. The black girl said " White bitch did you touch me". Of course her black boyfriend got up and smacked the black guy's hat off. I sat there like, oh boy it's about "pop off" Let me move my drink. The black guy with his white girl got up and left with her. The black couple stood up and said " yea leave pussy". Then they looked at me and said " son I hate sellouts". I kind of looked at them in amazement. In my head, I was like "yo do that shit to me and we would be brawling in the movie theater". I don't care what color she is. That is my my attitude about life. I will give you another story. A black girl with her white boyfriend was at dinner. All hell almost broke loose. Some black guys was watching the playoffs. Her nappy headed ass comes waltzing in with her balding white man. I mean his head was shiny, she had the nerve to look good too. All the Negros in Apple bees just let out a "Oh hell naw". I couldn't help but laugh at them. I was like why she came in here with this white boy she know Apple bees is basically black. Anyway, she couldn't take it anymore. So she lashes out at the skinny black waitress. She is like (kissing her teeth) get me a drink. The skinny black waitress is like, what would you like? She goes "a strong drink damn". Her white boyfriend is like "what's wrong honey". She says "nothing" , why you didn't put a hat on. I swear to you! I almost spilled lemonade out my nose. Everybody in Apple bees could tell she is an attention whore sellout black girl. She had a homely white man and she "dolled" herself up on purpose. Wearing tight clothes too. These are the same sellout black woman claiming "we watching them". They must be stupid or something. Black men are usually in black neighborhoods. How many black men you see at a white mall? They all need to stop lying to the public. Look for new blog entry " The Biracial Ghetto theory".

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  28.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    rhochi23, I appreciate and applaud your honesty about your true feeling's concerning black and white dating and marrying. Thank you so much for the compliment(s) concerning black women, it's refreshing and good to hear. A bigger compliment to you on your manner in responding to Azrazyel. However, I have to agree with Azrazyel about how you generalized black women in your original post. Please don't take this in a negative manner, but your referring to black women as if they "solely" belonged to black men. We are all individual's, men and women, asian, black, russian etc,etc, we make choices and decision's that we want to, for many different reason(s), therefore I do not think it's fair or accurate to imply that all black women are dating white men.... Black women date other's as well but it seems that when it's the black/white combo, it get's ugly... Women is plural.. Do you mean that you are seeing more black women and white men together now than you did in the past? I know I'm seeing much, much more than I did even 5yrs ago. Is it true that maybe some of these relationship's are from curiosity? Probably yes. Not just the bw/wm, but the opposite as well.. The point is, we don't really know, only the people involved really know, so we shouldn't judge these relationship's, should we? Azrazyel made some good and valid point's, especially the point made, "race is only an issue if we choose to make it an issue". I personally think across the board that TOO many people are searching from the outside first, instead of seeking from the inside out. Society has a tendecy to focus on the decorated box, the biggest box, and not what's in the box... That's probably why we have so many divorces and dysfunctional relationship's in this country. You seem like a decent and loving man, and your definitely HONEST, which is a PLUS in my book. I'm hoping and believing that you will come to peace with this, but more importantly, I'm praying that you get the very best that life has to offer.. Believe in yourself, treat people in the manner in which you want to be treated and never doubt your God given destiny.. The best is yet to come!!! godiva

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  29.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    rhochi23: Hey it's okay man I am learning too. I'll just respond to some of your excerpts here: -"Just has much sorrow I have for black women going to white men, I equally have the same for black men going to white women" Do you think you may have some hate inside that you may be unaware of? I can see at least from your words, that you don't approve of IR couples. Not attacking you here, just trying to bring out what you may hold within. -"This is very hard for me to convert my feelings with writing but I just feel that white men date black women because they are curious." I stated above that some white men (the assholes) do this to fulfill a sex fantasy if you will. Many others genuinely love them and actually are not afraid to take them home to see mom and dad. -"And for a white man to invade that blessed space that has shaped and held our race together for so long is a little personal for me." Very understandable. But, maybe you hold the past within yourself to this day? Not every white man is racist, racism knows no color. But I would hope you would be happier if a white man treated her just like any woman should be treated, correct? You should support these sisters who date or marry out to find love, and if that man treats her like shit, you have every right to be mad. As long as they are happy, you should be as well. "Ask me this if she was white and processed all “drive, strength, courage, determination, focus, passion, personality, fire, wisdom & mental toughness and was white would you still date that women." YES! I stated above TRUE love has NO boundaries. I will date or marry anyone no matter the race that I feel compatible with. I am talking about black women here since this blog is based on that, as well as acknowledging and confirming the drive, strength, personality, fire, wisdom & mental toughness as you and I stated. And yes every race has a strong woman as well. "I thought a woman was a woman." Again, I am acknowledging Black Women as Women too! So often the media portrays a total statement of complete and utter falsehood. "But my message is black women you are precious to me." And you are precious to them. Just as white women will ALWAYS be precious to me. Even if I so choose to date/marry out of my race, it's whom I find most compatible for me. But I will NEVER put down or separate from my race.

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  30.   rhochi23 says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    And last point of course you would not be mad at black men dating white women because from what I can see you guys don’t want them anyway. You don’t hold that value to them like a black women. But thank you for the comments I am learning as I write to see both sides.

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  31.   rhochi23 says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    Azrazyel Although I understand everyone’s point and it is well considered. I don’t believe that I personally own black women. I just like to believe there’s a connection there that no other race will have no matter how much love is in the picture. I don’t hate white men and I don’t see all white men taking all black women. Just has much sorrow I have for black women going to white men, I equally have the same for black men going to white women. This is very hard for me to convert my feelings with writing but I just feel that white men date black women because they are curious. Of course a black women is fine, sexy and all of the above. Who you think is the back bone of black people. I think that what it is. Black women are the back bones of so many families. And I’m not talking in the matter of everything falls on them but that we are where we are as a culture because of the richness and wisdom of the black women. And for a white man to invade that blessed space that has shaped and held our race together for so long is a little personal for me. Of course every white man that reads this is going to defend themselves and say love is love. Ask me this if she was white and processed all “drive, strength, courage, determination, focus, passion, personality, fire, wisdom & mental toughness and was white would you still date that women.” Cause I’m not sure but I think there are some white women at there like that. Most white men will say in quote, “I love black women because:” instead of saying,”I love a Woman that possesses”. I thought a woman was a woman. But if you read all the comments white men keep saying I Black women. All I’m saying is a black woman are secrete to the black community and I own no one. And black women across the world can do whatever they want. But my message is black women you are precious to me.

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  32.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    rhochi23: I understand your sorrow. But, do you realize that black women are allowed to date white men? Do you realize white men are allowed to date black women? For so long AND still to this day, black women have it the hardest out of any race or gender when dating IR. It's okay for black men to do it, but why not black women? They don't belong to you just like white women do not belong to me. Everyone has reasons for dating IR, some good some bad. You hate to see white men take YOUR women? Ever thought white males thought the same about black men taking OURS? Yes there is an abundance of white women, just don't make it sound one-sided here. Black women are free just like everyone else to love who they are attracted to, have companionship with, to support them and share best friendship with. Maybe if so many white males weren't so headstrong, maybe black women would be that much more appreciated. Not just white males either, every race. If someone loves somebody from a different race, support them. Don't hate them, feel happy for them. They already have it bad enough from ignorant assholes in the world. I certainly don't hate on black men dating white women. If that's what you love, go for it. I would have NO reason to discriminate based on color. Love is love and TRUE love has NO boundaries. Just don't hate on white men who so happen to LOVE black women. Yes some are assholes who use black women to fulfill a fetish. There are plenty more who have true sincerity and dignity for a black woman. I don't look at it as taking YOUR black women. I am truthfully attracted to them and I could definitely see myself dating/marrying one some day. I am open to all races because REAL love comes in all colors. There are plenty of black women in this world. Don't make it sound like ALL white men are taking your women, WAY far from the truth. The ones who ARE open such as myself, can appreciate the physical, emotional, & spiritual attraction of a black woman. As well as the drive, strength, courage, determination, focus, passion, personality, fire, wisdom & mental toughness. Black women are women too and for so long they have been put down by ALL ethnic groups. It's about TIME people start recognizing and confirming the beauty of a BLACK woman. Remember this, race is only an issue if you make it one. Take care

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  33.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    Wanna ask. Should all black men get off this blog topic? I for one don't want to be a black Archie Bunker. If I was a woman, I guess I would be one of those strong sisters that made it without a bad black man (lol). I just don't have a problem with this.

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  34.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    rhochi23 This is happening all over the western world. It happened in Europe, especially when the military occupied bases in England and Germany. The men there adapted admirably to US Soldiers taking euro brides for decades (in most cases). Like I said, Hong Kong and Japan are experiencing it now too. Wives are being brought in from Viet Nam, Cambodia, and elsewhere in growing numbers to Japan and Hong Kong. When the military occupied the Phillipines, same thing. Navy guys taking Filipino women from Filipino men. Catch this one: Jihad is taking place in the Arab world to prevent this! Right now! Big repression of women's rights there. It is not your father's Oldsmobile!!! As a western man no group of resveded Don't be a black Archie Bunker. Let go and let God! Do right and value the women you are with and they will value you. These women are hurting. They need what is rightfully their entitlement. So do our white brothers who love them.

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  35.   rhochi23 says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    Hello 85kguy I understand what you are saying but i take much pride in my black women i just can't sit back and let the white guys take the only thing a black man has left. I might be old school and i pray that something or someone would educate me about black women going to white men. Its not that i hate anyone. Its just that white men took are women in slave days now black women are running to them. although this was in the past history is still history. Every culture is standing strong but the black history. Its bearly being taught in schools let along in a black and white relationship. A watered down culture is what i'm concerned about, I really don't care that the black women is giving herself to a white man but rather trading that for where she came from and the history that made us all. I wonder how those convesation go when you have to tell your kids that in the slave days your fathers ansectors did this and that to the black women. History repeats itself maybe not in that voilent why but it repeats and black women are falling for it everyday. I guess we will never take time to build each other up. Amazing that every other cultures sticks with bulding something togather, but whe it comes to us black people bulding somthing togather like a UNION, everybody get all "we are the world speech" and love is love. Let me tell you a white guy know how to get what he wants. I'll never give up own my black women, they should never give up on us.

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  36.   scoff says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    Thoughts and coffee I'm rather sadden about some of the comments that have came to my attention. I would rather focus on the positive than the negative, as we all have have our horror stories to tell white or black. Focus on what you did or are doing to negate the impact on your life and well being. (Enough said, that topic has no end or begining) Scoff 85Kguy Excellent advice, Sarah Godiva, I loved your responce,but I wish not to mislead you. Scoff and I are explaining or trying to convey a message that we were in love (and really still are) but we were not brave we never walked down the street holding hands, we never went to the tastee freeze on a date, oh I could go on and on. Thats the point I want to make we let family and the social enviroment of the time dicate how we acted or reacted. Again I would like to remind everyone of the time and place that these events occurred, a very rural part of south Alabama, around 1963-1968, (68 when Scoff was drafted)thats what I called divine intervention. Diva we will be glad to answer any questions, anything to help a person understand problems or situations that may arise in a relationship. We still plan on posting our expierence, and why because it makes us feel good about ourselfs, and I love to chat with Diva I can tell she is a very honest person as well as the majority of the people on here. One more cup of coffee then ugh the Wal Mart run, I love you guys keep up the good work I'll have some interesting post ready for wend. Again all my love to all Sarah

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  37.   85kguy says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    Hello Rhochi23 It is tough not having things reserved for you. But it is part of the reality. Chauvanism has eroded for all western males. Not just black ones. In Hong Kong and in Japan they are coming across the same thing. Women changing traditional marriage preferences. The men go bonkers because they are frightened by a loss of options, especially with regard to female beauty. Archie Bunker (all in the Family TV show) lost his options or privilege as a white male in the 70s. It was unfair to women for him to have that privilege reserved for him in the first place. Baseball, football, and basketball now have recordholders who are not white. People now wear Kobe jerseys who would not have worn them 50 years ago (black man's jersey). Don't rely on any unfair traditions and privileges. Black women more and more simply will not be there for that type of relationship with us. Adapt with haste else you will live a life without any beauty in your woman options.

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  38.   maz10 says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    renee why are you leaving this site? NO ONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH INTERRACIAL RELATIONS IN ENGLAND I SEE MORE BLACK WOMEN WHITE COUPLES EVERY WEEK NOW IN LONDON, COMPARED TO BLACK MA WHITE WOMEN. Why are people on this site getting so sensitve and upset over stupidity. WE ARE ALL PEOPLE ONE RACE, DIFFERENT COLOURS. Grow the hell up!

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  39.   Renee says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    I had to be removed from this site. My boyfriend took one look and said,"don't go back on there!" The only reason why I'm giving my last comment is because, there are some real haters here and of course other races are going to look down on your LOUD MOUTH,GHETTO,LACK OF MOTIVATION,AND JEALOUS behaviors from the United States. I have never had a problem with any race and I'm well liked in society. All of you deserve each other and bad name calling towards me... your showing that your really jealous of me. Because you can't have what I was born with...just sad. As for waking up and wishing I saw color... I look at my beautiful face everyday. If Jesus was on earth today, I guarantee a lot of you would hate him to. Even though you pretend to be church goers. When I think of myself, I think of how Jesus made it to the mountain, after he had been stoned by all those people and yet HE STILL LOVED US. Remember something and that is; how dare you put me down. You really don't know me. Keep preaching your god word.

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  40.   rhochi23 says:
    Posted: 31 Aug 09

    yea know we all want a world that just excepts all the love from everyone. I"m a black man and I don't mind sistas finding happiness but i just feel that white men have taken everything else us now take our black women. I think anger comes from white men believe everthing is theres anyway and everything they want they get. I just believe some black women are blinded by the success and the temproary great treatment they recieve. I've talked to black women who are married to white men and even have kids by them. Yes he treats her great and all of the above, but a few tell me that so many nights they wake up wondering how it would be to look over and be with a black man. I just believe that there are so many things to a black women that a white man will never know. I know there has to be a empty spot in the women heart and mind. because a black women is strong shell never addmitt it.

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  41.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    scoff/sarah, We do care.... It's people like you and Sarah who has made such sacrifices and have endured so much, so that some of us can enjoy and chersih the life that we have now.... I thought about you and Sarah today, I just came back from a celebration luncheon to remember "The March on Washington" that was held 45yrs ago.... Anyway, we are waiting to hear from you and Sarah... I have to run now. I have 86yrold(mom) who looks 60, act's even younger, and she is such a diva. I have to take her to get "lip gloss", that she insist's on picking out for herself, of course she doesn't trust my taste, because in her word's, "I'm too plain Jane"... She is a hoot and she keeps me laughing... Say a prayer for me because she is a handful and she control's my day's off from work, but I adore her.. love godiva P.S. I would have been very dissappointed if you and Sarah had kissed, and tell.. The smile that you described, said it all.. It's good to know there is someone out there smiling, so many people aren't... You two kids behave(smile)

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  42.   scoff says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    I just got off the phone with Sarah. she is besides herself with joy as she had me read all of your comments. She had no idea that people would actually care about our small world, and by the way she remimded me that Ladies and Gentlemen don't tell. Were still old fashion about that so you will just have to quess,( but were both smiling )thanks for asking Godiva61 lololo God we love you folks your all so kind Scoff

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  43.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    Thanks once again......I am at a lost, Godiva but just know that you are appreciated.

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  44.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    tatted2death, Whatever it is, it will soon pass.... So promise me that you'll never forget that you are a GIFT to the world, a divine work of art, a love story that has yet to be written, signed by God.. love godiva

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  45.   scoff says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    Good morning to all, we are really enjoying this and thank you so much for listening. Okay now to really start at the very start, when I get this all togeather I'll try and post it. As most of you know there was hardly any social interaction between young white and black people back in our day. Even more to the point never any contact between a young white male a young and black female. So the best Name I can put on this is you don't study Algebra. This topic is what first started us talking, we (the white teens) were so ignorant, we had no idea what went on in the black schools, so let me think about this and get with Sarah and see what she remembers. Maybe I can talk her into posting it if I write it out,(correct it so it makes sense) she can write better than me. Thanks Scoff Ps I know she will trilled with your comments

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  46.   godiva61 says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    scoff/sarah, I hope that you two had a good night together, did you? You two are just too adorable! Sarah, you are not boring me at all... It is refreshing to hear a "love story", especially here on this site, besides I'm a sucker for romance and intimacy... I'm awaiting to hear about the first kiss... I also have a few question's, but I will only ask if it's okay with both you and scoff.. Remind, me later to tell you about my "suntan" story... Have a great Friday!!! love godiva

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  47.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    Hey, L. Queens if you are so intent on getting a picture of an "ass" why not just stand in the mirror with your camera phone and.....well, you know (lol....I couldn't resist) You know as time goes on here, I am really starting to think that L. Queens is a bitter, racist WHITE man....some of the things he says....I mean, geesh ("negro children"...or maybe he is just old as dirt; pretending to be young....lol) Anywho, I want to thank the women and men here that are taking part in this wonderful discussion. Ich...I think now you can relate to my plight...when someone latches on to the WRONG info and drags it like a pitbull on crack....lol Hopefully, otherbrother saw the light and will move on. All I have to say is I am happy you are here, Ich....your spirit rocks and rules. At the same time I thank otherbrother for being peaceful toward me.....but I think you need to recognize that my post was not "fighting" words. The back and forth between me and a certain "member" here is all in good fun now. From time to time I might get a bit fiesty at being referred to as a "loose booty", but who wouldn't (IF it is not true). Overall, I know how to conduct myself here without "bashing" (*rolling my eyes at that played out term*). Yet, when someone speaks on having a "bad rep"(funny how that "victim" label seems to fit right there) I have to wonder why is it so difficult for them to see the opposite side to it (again I am NOT ruling out a white man playing games on here...lol),....why can't they leave out the negativity when it comes to labeling black women?????? Just a point to ponder... Sarah/Scoff....I wish to thank you again for sharing your insightful and inspiring story World Citizen and Godiva......Thanks for the continued support....you just don't know how much it means to me right now....WORD CAN AND DO HAVE POWER. Peace and Blessings to ALL tatted2death

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  48.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    To Sister Godiva and Mother Citizen, It truly is a blessing to know two kind hearted women such as yourselves are in the midst. Thank you for believing in me. Love always! Scoff and Sarah, you two are just too much! I think it's extremely cool that if someone is going to post comments on a dating website and they're in a relationship, it's logical that they and their significant other should both post. I'm so happy that you both bothered to stay in touch all these years. It's awesome and I want to hear more of your stories.

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  49.   scoff says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    Sorry for the break, again I want to take a minute and explain, black people and white people in the enviroment that we were raised in had very little interaction. So this brought alot of should I say myths to be explored, lololo. Finally Scoff stated as a matter of fact colored people can't get sun tanned. Now it was my turn to display the that look of what?????? Blurting out yes we can as I pulled my long pants up to show him my legs that were always covered. Shocked he looked at me, for a few seconds before responding with Sarah your lighter than me. You people can get a sun tan. This opened a avenue for me to ask some questions, first I knew Scoff was Itlatian or something and during the summer he hardly ever wore a shirt so he was really dark, oh yes he was handsome, black hair and the crystal blue eyes. Quickly he explained that his Mother was a full blooded Greek from Florida, so that's how he had came by his olive skin, but the blue eyes had come his father. Thinking about this a moment, I then asked okay why do all you white boys always want to a tan. What is so important about being dark. Still puzzled Scoff was like what are you talking about? I said look all the white boys that work here even the real fair skin ones go with out a shirt the whole summer. With a thinking expression on his face, then with a Golly right out of mayberry, he mumbled sh-- I don't really know. To this day he still has never answered that question, and Yes I still cover up when I get in the sun I guess old habits die hard. I will say this when my daughters were growing up I never ever mentioned any thing about getting in the sun. I did like that tan though, of course I would of never told him that back then. Just like he finally admitted he liked it when my hair got a red tint from being in the sun. Thank God he never told me then I would of stayed in the sun, oh God my hair would of been a mess. If interested I'll tell you about our first kiss. Again if this is boring please tell me. Sarah thanks a bunch for listening Love Scoff & Sarah hey what can I say it's our date night we have plans XXXX lololo ( we may be 60 but were not through living lololo)

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  50.   scoff says:
    Posted: 28 Aug 09

    From Sarah: Godiva61 thanks for the encouragement; I had really thought about just forgetting this whole ordeal, anyway what the heck. I'll give it try please be honest and not too brutal on me, as my writing skills have waned through the years. Okay I left off where my Mother and Grandmother where lecturing me about skin color, they often used the term bright skinned, ( now please don't ask me what that means) as I'm sure some of the black sisters have heard some of the older family members use it. Sorry to keep regressing to a different tangeant, so let me kinda fast forward, by now Scoff and I were doing this mating dance around each other like two peacocks with all our plumage on display. We had now set up these signals so we could be alone for very brief intervals, with my comfort level increased to the level that I told hime what my Mother had said. Pausing he looked at me, if you could of seen the expression on his face, I laughed as I commented Scoff what are you looking at, finally his brain and lips connected and he spoke.

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