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Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 12 Jul 09

    I was just typing that, Azrazyel! Actually, I was looking for the topic that James did about that same thing. People will say certain things about a race or gender not like they shouldn't expect someone of that race or gender to have something to say when it doesn't apply to them.

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  2.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 12 Jul 09

    Konstanze: "They are so funny, enjoy life, and determined in life." That does not mean that no Black man is funny, enjoy's life, and is determined. There are a lot of white men who are the complete opposite. Just thought I would point that out.

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  3.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 12 Jul 09

    bigeyes31: Hey good to hear from you again. I'm glad we can have a constructive conversation. I am yearning to know the Black culture, not just women but Black men too. I would like to understand where they come from and the difficulties they still undergo today. I believe everyone, no matter race or gender, should have the same EXACT level of opportunity as white people have had for so long. It's just a shame and a disgrace to mankind the way Black people have been treated, and still unfortunately it continues to show it's ugly face i.e. racism, bigotry, etc. I've always been determined. I just don't always open up completely right away. When I feel comfortable to do so, believe me I will. And I did vote for Barack Obama, and it's a joy everyday to see an African American man in office. For so long Black people were oppressed, and it's about time people look away from the hate and accept one another as equals. I enjoy talking to you, and I hope we can learn more about each others cultures. Have a great day. Regards

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  4.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Azrazyel Wow! I'm extremely glad you relate to my analogy. I was a little leary about using it because I didn't want to offend anyone who might be gay. I don't believe that age group has to endure making a decision like that. I think we expect that age group to bridge the gaps in our society. Be different in someways from their parents. For example the polls taken during the presidential election, it was the youth that wanted a black president and most didn't care what color of the candidate just wanted the right person. With that in mind, I think,I hope that there is more freedom for the young. Hey, I'm starting to notice more determination in your post!lol. I'm not saying it wasn't there already.It's just that it is coming through more in your posts.Great! Have good day

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  5.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    bigeyes31: Good thoughts. My view of the south has been even more confirmed. My initial thoughts have been proven even deeper. A lot of white people may 'say' they are non racist, but deep down inside they have this pure hatred or evilness if you will. Same with me here. I do not hate white women or have any sort of grudge against them. I will ALWAYS love white women, but right now I found a passion to focus on what drives me here, Black women. There is no such revenge factor or rebellion type of thought here, I just happen to love what I admire. LOL, you are right about the gay person coming out type of thing. I had the same "exact" thoughts you have about that. I see many young Black women on here who are 18-21 years old, it makes me wonder if they had to wait to move out of there home to finally express their feelings for another race. Maybe the household wouldn't allow such a thing, therefore provoking a 'coming out' sort of thing. Just my thoughts on that situation. Funny though. I am willing to defy all logic and continue to roam about my interests. Good talking with you. Have a good day. Regards

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  6.   Konstanze says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    I have been dating Caucasian men since I was in High School. They are so funny, enjoy life, and determined in life. Yes, my town was very much segregated also well. I didnt stop dating because of color. I saw KKK march since I was five years old. I love all my men! People need stop looking at color. Money dont look at color!

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  7.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Azrazyel Yes, unfortunately rednecks are very much apart of where I live but just like you have different types of black folk there are different kinds of white folk.( hope you like my southern spin...folk...get it...folk, oh never mind(LOL). My town is pretty much segregated, black side of town and white side of town(yes still exist). The white people here just don't intermingle with blacks but they will swear to you that they don't have anything against blacks. Yes they are mostly all republican with republican views.This state is definitely a red state( no pun intended). So if WM are actively separating themselves how can IRs occur? To answer your question about my interest in being on this site or IRs in general, natural ,physical attraction. Simple. I don't hate black men and I'm not bitter toward them at all. I don't like some of the images portrayed by some of them. I can and still do attract black men. I say this because there is no rejection factor in my decision. I have always found white and hispanic men attractive. It is almost like a gay person coming "out of the closet" for lack of a better analogy. I have felt as if I had to suppress my attraction for white men all my life. Not so much the hispanic because that would be more socially acceptble in my community. LOL yes you do respond quickly! That's fine. I think having this dialogue between WM/BW is definitely a plus toward improving things. I think it is good. Well nice talking with you.

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  8.   Austrian says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Azrazyel and Kentucky joe, Some men love to talk and write FAIRY TALES to PLEASE THEMSELVES. Some are thinkers and then there are DOERS. Some with SINCERE intentions will get what they desire, as they GO FOR IT! By the way, full moon is over, it is time to calm down and LOOK IN THE MIRROR. Black women who are strong, yet sensitive, know all the BS that is coming from men, regardless of color. They are not limited to choose from the internet, they have ALL OPTIONS. Great weekend to you, who do not spend too much valuable time on these blogs. Special warm greetings to Godiva61, tatted2death, Ichibod and Ichiban!!!

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  9.   Member says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Hey everybody. Just my 2 cents. I have always had an undying love for Black women. Ever since I was about 15 or so. I told my Mom that I was going to marry a Black woman someday. She just said "Oh yeah?". Well here I am on my second marriage & it just happens to be to a Black woman. I'm 52, workaholic, cook, clean & parent my 2 girls from the previous marriage. I tell my wife several times a day that I love her. We have been married for 11 years now & the same rules apply to her race as to any other race: treat them like a woman & you get the world in return. The skin color was just my preference. The thing that got my heart after the initial physical attraction is the way we can laugh with each other. We've had our bad moments in the relationship as well. We manage to iron things out. Black women as a whole a very strong willed & that in itself is an attraction. You take an educated Black woman & pair her up with a white guy that doesn't mind breaking his back for her, add in a healthy portion of trust & you have a combination that will last well beyond the sneers of the general public. Hey White guys: Smarten up. These women aren't about being spoiled princesses. They don't mind working & helping provide for the family. I love you all. I don't even look at white women. There is nothing attractive about a white woman to me.

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  10.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    bigeyes31: I am a pretty quick responder, if you can't tell already. lol. I understand where you are coming from, the south. I don't know exactly what environment you live in, but I pretty much portray the south as rednecks, racist republicans who hate the sight of black people. Now that is not every white man, but in general I have that feeling that's what it may be. I'm sure you would find comfort (and a better chance) of meeting a white man if you lived in a mixed community, especially up north. Not too much racism up here, just bigotry. I despise the south and the history that has taken place and I will never move there along those lines. It's probably an environment setting that you are placed in. We all have to endure serious pressure in IR dating. No one said it was a cake walk. You just have to get the correct mindset of not giving a damn what people think, say, feel, look at you like they've never seen two humans together (Black and White that is). Love is more potent than any word anyone can throw against you. Just live and let it die. And no I'm not hesitant. If I was, I would still be contemplating if I should even explore my feelings for Black women (like this website). I was (key word) hesitant before joining this site, but I broke through it and here is my first step, by exposing myself to Black women, and letting whomever cares know that I am interested. I don't give a shat (censored) what people say or think. I know what I want and I will pursue it until I find what I seek. And that is why I am here, I really want to do something (finding a wonderful and loving Black woman). Once that moment comes, I am sure it will be a great feeling for me, and her, to show how much love and dignity I have to offer. I AM relentless in my approach, and I won't stop until my pursuing mind has been fulfilled. Take whatever you see me saying. This is what I want, it's an unending passion and desire for me to find a Black woman, I will lay in unrest until all has been fulfilled. It is a joy for me to be free and finally find my hidden passion for Black women after all these years. I hope this helps maybe? a little more. Anymore questions or complaints...lol...I kid I kid, please feel free to ask me. We are both new at this. Oh and one more thing. Why are YOU interested for? I revealed a small portion of my ideals, I would like to know yours. Nice talking with you. See you soon. In Regards

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  11.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Azrazyel I wanted to comeback and encourage you to keep going. I believe you will experience IRs that you are seeking. I wish you well.

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  12.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Azrazyel Yes this was helpful because it provides some idea of the thought process of a white man interested in dating a black woman even if you have not experienced it yet. So yes you are helpful. I do think it to be odd that you would believe that I am not open-minded to others opinions or answers from others simply because I can't quite make the connections for the reasons for your hesitancy towards dating black women. You do agree that there is hesitancy there, don't you? I would not be seeking feedback or be on a blog if that were true...think about that. That wouldn't be logical. I understand the reasons for the way you are approaching BW/WM dating. I live in the DEEP SOUTH, the HEART of DIXIE. My chances fo meeting a WM who wants to date a BW meaningfully are slim, so I have use other ways such as online to gain exposure. I have never dated outside my race either.So I would have to endure serious pressure to do something out of my comfort zone. I just find that people who really want to do something they really do it is all that I'm saying.That has been my experience. BTW I never said you had a fear factor of black women

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  13.   Austrian says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Kentucky joe, please also share your AUTOBIOGRAPHY 'My portion of hell' with us. I have endless compassion with you and think you are a gifted author. Most likely, you were too busy writing, this is why this beautiful, educated Black woman felt neglected and left you. Don't make this mistake again.

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  14.   Member says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    It's actually written by a guy named hamburger, not garfield. I knew it was something random

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  15.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    bigeyes31: I appreciate your feedback. Unfortunately, I have stated before that I have never dated out. I cannot give you complete insight on some of your questions. You would be better off asking a white man who has/is dating a black woman. Experience does matter, I guess I am a novice. lol Now, I will answer your questions of some of my insecurities. Seems you are not open minded? in accepting answers/opinions from others. I hope you will take my feelings, not opinions, into consideration. I am not so much fearful as you may see it. I have never done this, therefore I still have to seek more knowledge, preferably from other white men, about all the aspects of IR dating. Is it a 'stepping out' of my comfort zone? No. If it's something I want to do, and it made me feel uncomfortable, I wouldn't do it. And yes, every man has some sort of anxiety when approaching a woman, albeit black, white, latin, etc. I would have no prob. approaching a white, asian or latin woman. But I feel more comfortable approaching the online dating scene (I never thought I would actually do this..lol) when seeking out a Black woman. There are many more reasons why I am approaching it this way (I don't intend to write a life story here), and this is a way I feel most comfortable. It's not about 'going to the ends of the earth, even if it means rejection' type of thing. And there is no difference between whomever I date, you are right about that. But just because this is the way I approach this, doesn't mean I have a 'fear factor' of Black women. See, where I live, IR couples are basically minuscule. Just about unseen, and unknown. Maybe you live somewhere where it is more common. Perhaps, the environment I live in, the people I hang with (ALL white) and the community (ALL white) causes me to go this route. I would imagine if I lived somewhere else where IR couples were the norm, maybe I would have a Black woman by now. 0: Or even it would make it easier to know more Black women, therefore possibly sparking interest of some sort. I will stop now because I said I wouldn't write a life story. Sorry for the length. Hope this helps (at least somewhat). Have a good day. Regards

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  16.   Member says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    you should check it out it's a powerful book. My exes grandfather is Harpmon and her dad is james. They formed a tent city on her grandparents land so black people could vote.

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  17.   Austrian says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Kentucky joe Thank you for sharing this wonderful experience with all of us. The beauty is, that both families got involved and that the Black family, who had gone thru so much suffering in their past, opened themselves to compassion and love! You got me interested in 'Our Portion of Hell'.

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  18.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    Azrazyel I appreciate your feedback. The fact that we(black women)are women should tell you that we will date a white man or any other man. Why are you treating the process any different than any other dating process?You know that an asian woman will date you, you know that a hispanic woman will date you,so on and so forth, what is the difference? I am not trying to be confrontational, I truly want to see. What are you fearful about? Is it the normal amount of anxiety that men feel when they approach a womanan? So you see I have to agree with Mr. Laurelton because he said that when a man is interested in a woman he will go to the ends of the earth to be with her EVEN if it means rejection. I have observed this for myself. I don't jump on bandwagons, I just have to support truth when I see it. I really do appreciate your feedback because you are a white man, but I appreciate Mr. L too because he is a man and I feel that men are the best source for information on the subject(MEN),lol. We as women often romantisize the truth because it feels better, but may not be good for us and think that is detrimental. I (at least I have been told) that I think like that of a man because I remove enough of the emotional aspect of things so as to get to the truth. Again we need more insight from white men and men (Mr. Laurelton) as well. Sorry for the long post I really don't like to do them.

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  19.   Member says:
    Posted: 11 Jul 09

    I read this blog from time to time and have posted here in the past and figured I would share a real, true story about interracial dating that is positive and comes from personal experience. i have grown and lived in lexington ky. all my life. (go cats, love ya coach cal!) sorry about that, new habit, lol. In 2001 I met and fell in love with a beautiful black girl who was a graduate student at UK and was from Nashville, TN. Her parents were from a small farm town outside of memphis called somorville, and were graduates of tenn. state university, more on this later. We wound up being together for five years, before ultimately she left me and broke my heart, it was my own fault & like I said this is a positive story so we won't dwell on that. I'll save the details of our relationship, the point I want to make is the positive impact we had on our families as a result of being willing to love each other and introduce one another to each side. This is gonna be kinda long but bear with me, the story is worth it. The first time I met her family was during the finals of the 2001 NBA finals and was her older sister's birthday. WE arrived in nashville from Lex, and met them at her mom's house. Unbeknownst to me her parents were divorced and this was the first time her dad had been back in the house since the split. needless to say it added to the tension I felt, it being the first time i had ever been the only white person with all black people, meeting the parents all at the same time. Iverson was the topic that night and basketball gave us a common ground and it was a success. They welcomed me and couldn't have been nicer. The next morning her mom cooked me the best country breakfast ever and we became friends for life over food. She meeting my parents was a different deal all together, it probably went almost as smooth but I was nervous. I never told my Gf that, but I was. I knew Mom was cool and was wasn't raised by racist folks, but knew "bringing one home" might be different to them, as awful as that sounds. Well, they loved her and afterwards my dad said, "son, you've forced me to be a human being and I am proud of you for that. She is a classy, smart, beautiful girl and I should've never doubted your taste." It meant alot. Anyway here's the really good part, about her parents being from somorville, TN. Her grandfather, "Harpmon" is featured prominently along with her dad in a book titled, "Our portion of Hell" about the struggled this black, farming community faced to gain the right to vote, (in the still Jim Crowe South) in the 50's and 60's. her grtandfather had a ford truck he bought in 1965 in Mississipi, and it still runs. Why does he still have it, In his words, " because in 1965 cash money wouldn't buy that truck in Memphis Tennessee." The book is a powerful one and both my parents read it and gained a new perspective on what we had the audacity to call "americans" in this country went through no more than 40 years ago. My mom said, "It's a wonder they don't hate white people, but the way they embraced you and welcomed you into their home, it's amazing" Her mom told me a story about right after segregation riding the schoolbus and a white kid reaching out and touching her arm, she said, "he wanted to know if we felt different." The book is real, google it if you want, and so is the story. The impact of us being open to the possibility of loving someone outside our race, spread throughout our family and friends creating positive changes in their perceptions about our respective races. And ofcourse we had a great time. So although I respect the right to your opinions, all the Mr. Queens and everyone, broaden your scope and realize we must all treat each other as individuals and not assume anything about anybody based on race.

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  20.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    I appreciate your insight Queens. Very complex and compelling. lol.....I learn something everyday. Good to hear, see ya around. Good Day

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  21.   Member says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    Dear Azrazyel You always make honest points. I don't think any man wants a ghetto black woman. Well, I didn't discriminate when it comes to ghetto black women. I think the last ghetto girl I went out with. That was back in 2001. We went to Chili's and she ate the steak with her 'fingers". I cringed, I said I know you ain't putting your greasy fingers on my car door. From my experience dating black women. I plan to break down the different types of black women right now. You got the highly educated black woman. Usually comes from a good family. Her ass is usually so insecure and a perfectionist that it drives you up the wall. She spent most of her time in the books and has not dated much. She will either fall in the virgin category or just be an undercover ho. Your going to say "na how she a ho". She just look innocent that's all it is. It's the insecurity that drives them to do it. Eventually she blows her top because you left the toothpaste open or bathroom seat up. You break up with her but she calls you from time to time " to hook it up sexually". Then you got the "Ghetto girl". She will be nice to you enough to get money from you. Usually dresses very slutty. Her family consists of thugs and if she has a father he is a thug too. She openly brags that men are dogs and can't be trusted while dating you. They all have at least 1 or 2 kids "minimum". She can't stand her baby father and tells you this. Plus she craves shopping and WON'T finish her education. Best friends she keeps changing. She goes to many hotels wearing Fendi and Shanel with nothing in her bank account "fronting" she do well! Her kid suffers he doesn't get the love he deserves. All her friends doing "well" in life while she in the streets yakkty yakking like she was 12. Honey argues, fights and selfish in her own right. That's how I break them down.

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  22.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    Queens: I have had Black/African Decent, and Black/Non-African Decent from day one here. Just to let you know. (:

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  23.   Azrazyel says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    AlwayzLearning: You made some very inspirational points there. I love black women for many reasons, like your typical skin, thighs, lips...etc. etc. My personal inspiration goes deeper than that. I have never dated out, but have this strong pull or tug if you will, to go for it. I feel comfortable with the feeling and whatever happens, I cannot deny the feeling. Sometimes I wonder why I am having this attraction, and me being the only one to date out amongst family & friends, ever. I always seem to find solace in my thoughts and desire to meet a wonderful black woman. I will pursue it and will not give up until my mind is finally at rest. bigeyes31: Maybe you are not looking at the right white men??? Remember, some of us white men, including myself, will not ask a black woman out coming from the middle of nowhere. Many reasons, such as denial, or being uncomfortable doing so. How are we supposed to know if you would date a white man anyway? Same thing with a black woman. You always hear black women say such things as, "Well all they do is look at me and smile or say hi and walk on." That seems the most common to me. I've also heard from a woman in the military who would say that white men would always sleep with women such as asian, puerto rican, thai, islander type and other women from overseas before a black woman. Now that's just basing from her perception. It may be different in other cases. White men and black women are basically in a deadlock. Someone has to grow the cahonies (well men lol) and break through that barrier of interest, and make it happen. Some of us maybe haven't dated out before, and don't have the strong mindset of asking someone out on a date in a public setting. This place is an excellent place to start for those who are uneasy and need to slide into some sort of groove and get a good feel for it. Everyone has a reason for dating out. Some are tired of the bullshit from their own race, some do it for a 'revenge' factor of some sort, some do it for pure attraction and exclusive preference for a certain race. Find someone you feel comfortable with and go from there. You are right about the 'ghetto' type women. No white man who has a career, lives a good life, raises children, etc. etc. wants to even look at that. But, not every white man thinks "all" black women are loud and obnoxious. Again, that could be your perception of what you may have seen, heard etc. Just don't take it as you thinking all white men are like that, it is just not true. Peace out

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  24.   Member says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    Dear Bigeyes Thank your for your comments. At least you can get past the personal attacks to really see what is going on. The same people that attack me, will never talk about the real issue of white men "picking black women last". If you look at the average profile of a single black man he will choose black women first a majority of the time. Look at the white guy's profile. It has everything but a black woman 'checked". This is just from my observation. They act like I made the white guy change his preferences. There wouldn't be a debate if white men "on a whole" were choosing black women for meaningful relationships. Instead, "certain" black women just do wishful thinking. Saying things like " You wait and see white men will be with us" or "The reason white guys don't talk to us is because of you". Cast the blame on everyone else but the real culprits white men. Why don't you ask them why they pick you last. Then come back and attack me.

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  25.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    sorry meant have to. forgive my typos please.

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  26.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    Mr. Laurelton, I am a black woman who agrees with the point you make about white men picking us last. I haved to keep it real. I have noticed on this very site that wm are willing to date asians, pacific islander and everything else but a black woman. I tnink the concept of the loud ghetto woman is their misconception of all of us. This is not fair because usually this type of woman usually does not want a white man anyway. Just a thought,but you do make a valid point.

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  27.   AlwayzLearning says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    Why white men love black women? Hopefully for ALL the reasons any other man would: > Because he's drawn to my beautiful skin, full lips and thighs. Everyday when I bathe or look in the mirror, I love that part of myself too. I want to share that with him in our lovemaking. >Because he appreciates my determination and strength. When I drive home from work in my own car and come home to my own place, I love that part of myself too. I want to share that with him and be his support - this world can be hard. Just wanted to say I believe people are people. If you have good character, it shows. If you don't, it shows. Stereotypes abound and perhaps always will. Believing stereotypes can limit one's ability to learn and grow. I am a black female and have always dated men of variety. I've dated black (American) men who were college degree'd and had credit scores above 800. I have a wonderful son from a LTR with a white man who was the laziest piece of flesh I'd ever met, not "successful" and "full of money". I dated a gentleman who's impoverished family came from Mexico in the 50's. He rose to be Salutatorian of his HS class, received full scholarship to a nice college and passed the Bar the first time around. He's made his career as a practicing lawyer. I've dated men from France, Denmark, Finland, Australia. Nice men, cynical men, crazy men, smart men, skinny men, athletic men, fat men, short men, tall men, blue collar, white collar. Black men, White men, Brown men. I've learned so much. I've grown in tolerance and patience. Another biggie: Compassion - it goes a long way. These qualities can help peel back the layers of culture, color, creed to help reveal the soul that lies beneath. I believe it's important to be physically attracted to my mate! I also want to make sure that what's INSIDE the box is as beautiful as the wrapping paper it came in.

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  28.   bigeyes31 says:
    Posted: 10 Jul 09

    HI PhDee You're cool!

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  29.   Smooches says:
    Posted: 09 Jul 09

    First, hello to all I hope everyone is in good spirits! I hardly ever post unless I have something to really say. I just want to say…..every woman that I’ve had the pleasure of reading a post by here is a strong sister. I can appreciate PhDee schooling Laurelton Q about disrespecting the black women on here. I think I can safely say that his comments have no affect on us. You see we date, love, and marry who we want; because it’s exactly what we want. He uses the excuse that we are bashing black men to justify his need to inject his poison into this blog. I don’t bash anyone and if a woman on this blog did…..you know what she was giving her account or opinion. I feel she shouldn’t be disrespected for it. I can say this: his rants and raves are nothing more than entertainment for the women here. I don’t feel any shame in the lifestyle that I have chosen. I’m sure many of the women here will echo that truth. I will say that you did convey some major points in your post! I just want to say thank you for your time and thoughts. I want to thank every guy on here that has stood his ground for every black woman’s honor here on this blog. Ashley as always much respect, Ich much respect to you too! You know I’ll probably get bashed for this post, but you what “Sticks and Stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me”! I felt that phrase was fitting considering all the name calling that’s been going on lately. I think we all just need to remember this: Don’t judge a man/woman if you’ve never walked a mile in their shoes. Peace and Smooches to all

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  30.   PhDee says:
    Posted: 09 Jul 09

    Ichibod this dude in here cat fighting with broads and you think I'm a lady? lmao. You probably on here doing the same weak nigga shit as him though so I already know why. And why is the dude still typing essays to me? I have nothing left to say to you. You're a homosexual and you're weak as fuck on top of that. I don't associate with your type son, get off my nuts.

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  31.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 09 Jul 09

    Sup Ich, been chillin that's all, busy with work and camp. I hadn't been posting much, more just sitting back laughing at some of these post! Me personally I don't like Cocky Peeps! And the only way I think I can even give props when it comes to someone being Cocky is when they are killing it! Some peeps should just hold there tongue sometimes to save face! If you don't say anything to get schooled on then you aint looking bad. When you aint looking bad maybe you can take over the game! When you Spew B.S. And got everybody and there momma, from 16 year olds to men and woman from your own race killing you every time you speak it just takes away any creditability you got! Makes you more of a joke then anything. I use to say something that always sounded Cocky! I use to tell my Girl "I'm always right baby, I am never wrong!!!" Sounds Cocky right! After she cringed from me saying that, I then I went on to explain what I meant by saying that! What I mean by it is I am always right because I never talk about or argue about something that I don't know about! If I don't know what is being talked about or if I don't know the facts I keep my F#$KING mouth shut! Now I argue and speak on things that I know as facts! Hence I am always Right! She understood and said she liked My Moxy! The fact that you could actually call people or even say the words "CHICKEN GEORGE NEGRO" and then go on and rant and try and advertize your next post and talk about being a speaker, is seriously a sick Joke. Makes me Laugh and feel sick all at the same time! The fact that we actually give you face time here in this thread is the only little bit of anything that you got! The only reason that you even get acknowledged is because of how brilliantly Stupid you are! Its almost easy to F#$K you off! Its like dangling a worm in front of a fish! Throwing a dog a bone! You speak and peeps just cant resist schooling you! If anything else you are just here amuse all of us! You speak, we school! You try and write with more passion and all of us just sit back and laugh at you even more! Together I might add! I try and wonder how I would feel? F#$K I wouldn't be in that situation I would just keep my F#$KING mouth shut! Dang I really have never felt sorry for someone I never met but dam I feel sorry for you bro! Good Post PHDee Halla Ich.

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  32.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 09 Jul 09

    GENTLEMEN!!!!! Break it up! Don't make me come in there. LQ, who are you thinking? Lady Dee or Peanut? I say Lady Dee. Where's Ashton Kutcher? I think your being punked. Something's just not right here. I don't know what else to say.

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  33.   PhDee says:
    Posted: 08 Jul 09

    I hope you know I didn't read past the first sentence of that you ole bleeding heart faggot. LOL. Keep not being in the "business of attacking Black men" but being deep in the business of attacking Black WOMEN. Yeah thats real masculine you fruity nigga. I'm sure you're in the business of attacking Black children as well, which is why you seek to destroy the self esteem of their mothers at large. Ol soft ass nigga, probably have a whole support group of other bitter dudes just like you licking each other's wounds and telling each other 'its not your fault'. Thats why my circle of friends is so small now. Cats are way too bitch made nowadays, putting all their problems on women. Or even worse they do what you do and try to put them down so they can feel better about yourself and/or make them think they're so unworthy of love that they'll lower their standards enough so you have a better shot at getting them. Don't forget bruh, I'm a male too, so I already know you and your type's game. You might fool these women but you're not fooling me, I can easily see when a man is trying to break a woman let alone millions of Black women. But your type is exactly why my friends since elementary school and my frat bros are the only other niggas I deal with nowadays. Bitch ass dudes rather compete with women than competing with other men cause it makes them feel tough. Pathetic.

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  34.   Member says:
    Posted: 08 Jul 09

    Dear PH I am not in the business of attacking other black men. Since you have a problem with my opinion that is your problem. I graduated college in three years. You bring up graduation rates of black men when it comes to college. What does that have to do with black women bashing black men? How am I biased by stating white men pick black women last to date? That is a fact, even white men on here say they are reluctant to date black women. Perhaps, you are just mad I articulate my position better than you. It is always cowards that can't defend a position that try to censor you. Who says black women are sharing men? You are actually reinforcing the stereotype about black women. Then you make the comment that black men want pussy at college. Women don't want dick at college. What are you exactly saying? Sex is a two way street you prick! For the record, I have gone to Howard homecoming. The black women are campus carry themselves well. Some of them do not. I actually saw them "freaking" off with men on campus. So don't try to portray black men as the problem. A matter of fact, when I was with my ex fiancee YEARS ago her loose booty friends threw themselves at me. They also did that to my "friends". I don't have to lie about it. I prefer to not even telling you what is really going on. What makes me upset, your kissing ass, and blaming black men, when you should know the deal. You sound like a "simp". I can understand elderly black men "giving you the lecture" about treating women right. I say listen old man these generation of black women is WAY different the ones you grew up with. Class and dignity is long gone from this generation. They rather jiggle their ass on youtube and pose for magazines nude. When you respond to me check your grammar too. You claim your highly educated. I shouldn't be able to articulate my points better than you. Mr "High IQ". You know what, I respect Lil Wayne more than Obama. Simply, because he came from poverty in New Orleans with no formal education or the resources to get an education. He took his talent and became rich through music. It did not happen for Lil Wayne overnight. Barak Obama came from a middle class family. His mother and father were highly educated. He got a scholarship to Harvard. He became a community organizer to make way into Chicago politics. Did you think he was going to knock on door for donations for the rest of his life? Barak Obama is a great politician. I highly doubt he would have became a statistic to the penal system if he never entered politics. I am tired of these chicken George Negros bashing rappers. Obviously , they were smart enough to get rich off their talent. While, these chicken George Negros with their degrees sit back and remain jealous of these black men. I don't hate on ANY black man for getting ahead in life. You don't got to like me. You better do your homework on a topic before you just run your mouth about me. I assure you, I do my homework ALL THE TIME. You mention black men use to be proud. I am proud you are not. You sound like that jerk that apologized to all black women on behalf of us. You don't speak for me man. You get that through your head! Oh yea, you sound like one those black men from the million man march. WTF, I never robbed or killed nobody. Most black men do the right thing in life. You want us to march around like we are responsible for those guys that "go down the wrong path". They know what they are doing! You know what fuck you! Do a march for those black women that don't allow a black man to see his child. They got him paying excessive amount of child support while she sleeping with four men. Where the march for that???????????? Your ideas are out dated for the modern progressive black men. I am here to provide new ideas. Since black women are a vital part of our interests, I intend to protect those interests at any means necessary! Look for my new blog entry. The Chicken George Negro Chronicles, In my head, I got so much material to write. I just wish I had the time to write it down. Good day

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  35.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 08 Jul 09

    There you are, dude. What's up?

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  36.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 08 Jul 09

    "Black men do not own media outlets or music labels." TV, NEWS, and Radio Stations http://www.nabob.org/directory.html Not to Mention a ton of Black owned Magazine and Newspaper Companies across the country and world!

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  37.   PhDee says:
    Posted: 08 Jul 09

    I don't see the point in continuously responding to someone who is obviously biased and has no interest in using facts to form his opinions. I'm talking about Laurenton Queens that is. This is a guy who has said himself that Black women who date out are sellouts but Black men who date out were forced to by Black women. He is telling you his bias right there, so why respond to him? And he says this despite the overwhelming evidence that if anybody in the race is falling behind and becoming unsuitable mates, its Black men. Whereas Black women are actually IMPROVING their situation, Black men are staying stagnant or getting worse. Statistics don't lie. I know when I was at Howard I had a helluva time because we were outnumbered by like 7 to 1 (7 Black women to 1 Black men). That doesn't coincide with the belief that Black women are selling out, if anything they're just now choosing to date their equal without sharing him. Man I got so many crazy stories about Howard, a lot of my same Black male peers didn't even graduate or care to! I was ashamed of my boys. Its like they came to college just at the opportunity to get pucci. Didn't go to class, didn't turn in work, didn't even bother to pick a damn major and stick to it. A lot of them failed out but still hung for 4 years around just to party. I am a Black man saying this by the way. And I might be like this ignoramus Laurelton if 1. had a lower IQ or 2. needed a scapegoat for my problems. But neither of those things apply to me. Most importantly though, I have a daughter who's going on 11 now, and I would rather die than see her date some of the pieces of garbage walking around calling themselves Black men nowadays. By no means are Black women perfect, I see scandalous hoodrats all day everyday on my way to work who make horrible choices in men and accept any kind of behavior. But I see more Black women trying to better themselves than Black men and the statistics back up what I see. We used to be a proud race of men, responsible and honorable, now I don't know what the f*ck happened. I'm ashamed to share the same racial and gender group with these dudes, and I can't fault Black women whatsoever for finally exercising their options in other races of men. We don't need any more broken Black homes. I rather another Obama (mixed, progressive Black person) than a Lil Wayne. And if it takes Black women dating out to get that, I'm all for it.

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  38.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 07 Jul 09

    Thanks for the subliminal slap on the wrist there, Tattedbabe. I guess I deserved that. Oh, and I appreciate the comment you left in the other post. It really means a lot.

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  39.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 07 Jul 09

    See......yes, we can agree on some things, L. Queens...But, I knew that already...lol. But let it be know.....I DON'T NEED YOU ON MY SIDE OF THIS ONE. Everyone needs to accept their role in it.....(Black men don't own music labels and media outlets.......ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!?..You need to blow the dust off your brain, dude.) The fact is not alot of people (PERIOD) are truly interested in a long-term/leading to marriage relationship these days ........and that goes across racial boundaries just like anything else. There are too many wanna-be players running around (male AND female) and people being too easily seduced by the "micro-wave" society that we now find ourselves in....(like the dayum Matrix, it truly is). People have either given up or given in....I choose to just remain "mindfully open".....(NOT "loose"...there IS a difference.....geesh, sad that I have to explain that). Still holding on to the delusion that I am/was embarassed by a confused white dude, huh????....Cute. Peace and Blessings to ALL tatted2death

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  40.   Member says:
    Posted: 07 Jul 09

    Let me interject here I am on Tattooed one side on this one. Timbo makes the assumption black men date fat white women. Black men date all types of women. Number 2 the so called "fat white women" throw themselves at black men. That is not bragging that is a FACT. Let me make another point, I may disagree with interracial dating or even the motive for it. But I can respect the fact that "some sellout black women" put their "heart on the line only to be embarrassed. That bothers me as much as the "black male bashing they try to do". Again, the black male bashing is bad but I see where it comes from. Me personally, a black woman will turn my head faster than a white woman. A latin woman will even turn my head faster. I do agree that you can't lump all sellout black women together. At my church, there is an older black woman married to a white man (he is deacon) they have 4 kids all young. Very nice lady, and this is an all black church in PA. Sometimes you live and you reevaluate the way you see things. I will say that Timbo is honest on how he feels. If a white man says he will not date an obese dark skin women that is his choice. My problem with sellout black women is they "try" to downplay the fact white men are not interested in a serious relationship with them. They make all these excuses and blame black men for "running white men off". Again, if a man wants to be with you. He will move mountains to be with you. People live in the blog world opposes to the real world. I still believe black women shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to dating. Most white men have said when they approach black women they get brushed off. It is their own reputation doing more damage than the black men they blame. Let me change that the media damages black women reputation. Even though they like to blame black men for that. Black men do not own media outlets or music labels. Black women actually participate in their own degradation by being in these videos. So why would you be surprised white men view you this way.

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  41.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 07 Jul 09

    Ummmm.....like I have said here before I think men that have to put women down (ANY MAN, REGARDLESS OF RACE) must have serious issues themselves. There are women that might be perceived as "skanky" in every race so blah-blah...And I stand by the fact that I have REPEATEDLY denounced anyone that justifes their current dating habits by puting someone else down (especially when it based on "racial" background and/or some of the common stereotypes). NOW for the one that stuck his finger in the kool-aid and still got the dayum flavor wrong...why is always assumed that a womans ultimate goal is to be married???AND who said that "dating" automatically equals "sleeping around"??? It has been obvious for some time what kind of woman you are either used to being around or maybe you are just extremely bitter. I don't really care either way....because all you really care about is furthering your divisive "mission"....even at the cost of common sense and descency. YOU MAKE SHYTE UP AND YOU LIE ABOUT PEOPLE YOU HAVE NEVER MET....on the off chance that some one will come in here and read JUST your post and take it as "gospel".....blind leading the blind I suppose. Any THINKING person is NOT going to just take one post and build a sandcastle out of it... I blame you (or the "black man"...LOL) for NADA!!!!....and still I get lumped in with some small (yet vocal percentage) of women that are weak enough to use excuses for dating preferences. DO NOT put me in a basket with this Lady Dee......SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME. She had some valid points yet I see some things in her posts that I DEFINITELY CAN NOT AGREE WITH. How "cave man" of you to expect what you can't/won't give (respect). You don't want to be "bashed" but that all you seem to know how to properly do. I told you I am done with you on that whole "rejection" sub-plot to your "mission". UNLESS YOU ARE ILLITERATE, you know just as well as anyone else here that I have not been in here talking about "adverstising" myself or hollering for men to come in here for the purpose of me "getting with" them and my profile supports my reasons for being here. This is the last time I am going to explain this to you IN PLAIN ENGLISH. YES, ONE OF THE MANY REASONS I am here is because I happen to like white men....but I also like asian men, latino, etc....I date (WHEN I do) "INCLUSIVELY"!!! My main reason is to see what comments are made on issues like these when the "inhibitions" are low and people discuss freely. If you can't understand that then I don't know what to say for you.....accept "BUH-BYE" And I really wonder why the so-called black man keeps accepting the B.S. that this particular white man keeps dishing. He has repeatedly told you all that you all are LOW/DESPERATE/WEAK (take your pick) enough to be with TRASH.......WOW!! And some of you have the nerve (in typical fashion) point the finger at the black woman and tell her to "handle it"......NOT surprising. I tend to leave this character alone because I KNOW what he is trying to do and he only pokes his head in here every once in awhile. (NOT like L. QueenS, who is now like a "fixture")....YET, like L. QUEENS he has some vaild points mixed in with the B.S. Right now my "sifter" is broken and I simply don't have the energy to "dissect" his mess. (he calls himself a "douchebag"....COME ON, what am I supposed to do with that....LOL). You all can pat him on the head it you want but unless you are reading his entire post and REALLY UNDERSTANDING what he is saying, I'd leave him alone.....just a kind word of advice. Peace and Blessings tatted2death

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  42.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 06 Jul 09

    Nail on the head, Timbo. I wonder if any black women who went off on you in previous posts will say anything to you about your 'skanky fat white women' comment. Probably not.

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  43.   Member says:
    Posted: 06 Jul 09

    Totally agree with lil_D btw ;-) its who the individual is attracted to and have chemistry with and so be it if he/she is from another race.....like my mother says LOVE CONQUERS ALL ;-) Where i live in the UK its very diverse and its a common place to find interracial couples BW/WM WW/BM and its just lovely to see really

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  44.   Timbo649 says:
    Posted: 05 Jul 09

    A dirty little insight into the whitemale psyche when it comes to approaching black women. I shouldnt even go there, but I'll do it because I'm a douchebag: When whitemales approach a black woman, the white male feels undue societal pressure to succeed in winning her over. After all, the prevailing KKK stereotype that permeates society is that a loser white guy can easily get a beautful, desirable black woman. (Yeah right) But that is the stereotype. However, this is one time that a stereotype does not reflect reality Yet it does happen on a 0.5% occasion that a loser gets a hot one regardless of race. And so it happens 0.5% of the time that you see a loser white guy with a hot black girl. So black ladies, if you are wondering why white guys don't approach you, it is because its not worth the risk to lose status when bystanders observe that the black girl has snubbed you. Hey, it's not easy being a black girl, but it's not easy being a white guy eihter. And this is why you see black dudes with skanky fat white women. The black dude has nothing to lose by getting with a trashy fat white woman. And trashy fat women are the easiest to seduce of course.

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  45.   Ichibod says:
    Posted: 04 Jul 09

    To ummm, If you and mom both like her, she a keeper. Always treat her like you would treat any other woman. Have fun and good luck!

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  46.   Ryan says:
    Posted: 04 Jul 09

    I'm a single 25 year old white man who is attracted to black women. While I agree it's dopey for another man to say "oh, I'm only attracted to blacks/Asians/whatever" since a vast majority of men are in no place whatsoever to be picky, we all have preferences. In my opinion, it's a built in mechanism that prevents humans from overpopulating. Anyhow, since I was a kid, I have been attracted to black women, namely the naturally kinky hair. It turns me on like a light bulb. Obviously, it's ignorant to lump all people of a certain gender and skin color into a "they're all like this..." category. But based on my personal experience, black women have this "glow" which I find irresistable. It's really no different to other "fetish"-like behavior such as women going after men who are tall (as a 5'2" man, I have felt this sting before). We're all animals and we all want what we see as "the best". Screw what the consensus thinks.

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  47.   Member says:
    Posted: 04 Jul 09

    Dear Lady Dee How do I discourage white males and non black males from "being" interested in you. That is a bunch of hog wash. If a man wants to be with you. He will go to the 'ends of the earth to be with you". I don't plant seeds of division between black women and white men. A majority of white men are not really interested in black women. I know your ego can't understand that. So you have to lash out at me. Then you mention, you will not get free milk without putting a ring on your finger. That's fine you seem controlling. If a white man wants you, good luck on that. Ultimatums do not work anymore. No sex without a ring. Sounds like no sex without bringing me your paycheck, oh by the way, pay the bills while I sit on my black ass and get my hair done. Yea maybe a white man does fit you after all. I don't have hate for anybody. It is never personal for me. I am not going to sit here and let you bash us. You want to kiss a white man's ass go do it. Stop mentioning black men. Good day

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  48.   LadyDee says:
    Posted: 04 Jul 09

    Laurelton, No white man has rejected me - that must be someone else's post. I said that your sole mission on this site is to discourage white & non-black males from loving us with your lies about us being fat, gold digging, etc. ( you said this back in Apr & May) You want to plant seeds of dissention and call it truth, by bashing the black woman. No man is getting free milk without putting a ring on it. That's the self respect I have for myself. No matter what color a man is. So your generalizations about us bw as if we are all whores to be sexed by white males is wrong. Is a black man any better?? Do you not sex and leave women?? I don't have a weave. I am not a gold digger - like you said black women are. I work daily and need no man to support me. What bashing has been said about black men on this site?? But, You have been constantly bashing black women. And you say you have a black woman?? You're telling lies somewhere. How can you claim to have a black woman and write so much trash about us? Is it possible you have a black man?? So much woman-hating. Bottom line is you have unjustified hate in your heart toward black women.

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  49.   GT says:
    Posted: 04 Jul 09

    If you’re a black woman interested in dating interracially, there is a blog that will be helpful for you called “For The Sistas.” It also has posts on dating for black Christian women. Some of the posts are a bit long, but they aren’t any longer than the cover story of a magazine article and I really do think they’ll be useful to you. The blog address is ForTheSistas (dot) blogspot (dot) com. By the way, the blog also has information on dating men from Europe. Black women need to get off this black-man-only band wagon because, for too many, it obviously is not working. I’m not saying don’t date black men, just expand your options. Please forward this to other black women you know.

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  50.   LadyDee says:
    Posted: 04 Jul 09

    ICH BTW: My black father was not with my black mother and passed away many years ago.

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