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Why white men love the black woman

Posted by James, 31 Aug

Ever wondered why some white guys, love black women so much?

It seems that being a white male and proclaiming your attraction to black women (not only sexually, but also romantically) may lead to a lot of controversial and dangerous things. Let’s leave the debate of why more black women may be opening themselves up to white guys. The main focus of this debate is: why some white guys are opening themselves to black women. Let’s concentrate on that.

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Most white males don’t feel like they are running short of white women to marry. White males just marry at high rates. So question is: Why black women? The thing is it will not be fair to bundle up black women as one since everyone is their own person… be it in appearance or personality.

However, one thing that a white male friend of mine said… and I let him get away with bundling it all up is: “We love a black woman's confidence, her tenacity and her undeniable achievements in the face of great adversity...᾿ Since this info was coming from a man, there was definitely the mention of the lips, the curves, and that wonderful skin as well.

So what about stereotypes like “black women are either sexually conservative or total sluts?" Many people give so much lip service to interracial dating sites. You would think they have never done it. But those uptight individuals are the ones that spread these stereotypes. What happened to the highly educated black woman? How about the caring, decent and involved black woman?

Probably most white guys and others are confused with the stereotypical trash people spread around and if you are one that falls for such lame ol’ lines, then you sure as hell haven’t dated a black woman.

Bottom line, you don't have to sacrifice who you are for a white guy. They will love you anyway. Just be you and open yourself up… and if you like white guys, some white guy will find you too.

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  1.   hiddengem says:
    Posted: 13 May 09

    @LQueens...yawn!!!...LMAO!! Vox is so correct when he says that you are an ignorant,insecure moron! Who actually takes the time to scope out AND comment on sites that have nothing to do with them? Douche bags with a LOT of time on there hands like you. I believe that you feel that your insults towards black women will in some way make us feel as insecure and unwanted as you do. You seem to feel that you have the inside scoop and or some kind of authority to dictate to the black women who she should or should not date. Actually I see right through you and know that you insult black women, as apposed to white men who date black women, who are open to dating white men because you know that white men will just ignore your rants and dismiss you because of the clown that you are while black women are more apt to check you and then dismiss you. You don't need to be threaten by the white man I am sure there is some pathetic and sad submissive little girl with her head hanging low just waiting for you to sweep her off her feet by a boy like you! You are now dismissed.

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  2.   Vox says:
    Posted: 13 May 09

    MrLQueens: You are an ignorant, insecure moron who also happens to be in a relationship yet still finds time to moan and bitch at other people on a 'DATING' site. If the interracial relationship is such a problem for you, don't login and trawl the blogs just to wind people up or express your rather negative attitude and boorish insults. I don't have to explain my past relationships to anyone, especially you, but for the record a womaniser to me is someone who has a constant supply of 'booty calls' on tap or numerous short lived relationships in a short period. 4 long term reltionships over a period of 11 years is hardly a 'womaniser' and you obviously have a self-righteous feeling of oppression or inferiority! Your blog title says it all "A LIVELY DISCUSSION ON THE DESPERATION OF SELLOUT BLACK WOMEN." Please don't respond to these comments as I have no desire to enter into a flaming session with someone I don't respect.

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  3.   Member says:
    Posted: 13 May 09

    This Vox white guy. You have been in 4 EXCLUSIVE relationships with black women. Yet, the black man is a womanizer when he does that. Personally I just think your a pasty trick using black women for sex. Look for my new post soon. "The White man Recession" Part 2 to the Award winning "White Man Bailout". http://www.mrlaureltonqueens.blogspot.com/

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  4.   MixedGirl says:
    Posted: 12 May 09

    Thanks everyone who have commented this page. I was curious because I seem to like white guys. But for the same token I am only 16. So.. it's hard to get a date with a white guy.I am black & irish +polish , so I'm light skinned young adult. I've seen a few respones here... so I'm kinda like a fan. I like what everyone sayes here...(even thought some could be total jackasses) :P But it is good to see I'm not alone in this. Well I knew I wasn't alone. I don't care really what race you are if you have swagga and you dress nicely... than there shouldn't be a problem. I mean come, on it's the 21st century. People need to stop being insecure. Be simple, it's you do or you don't like black women. Either way the man sitting next to you will. And don't criticize people because they know who and what race they want. Sheesh! P.S. [geneandthem] you are an idol! Jk. lol but your one cool dude.. and ya know what you want. People take notice! Thank everyone again... this is my responce.

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  5.   malarki5 says:
    Posted: 11 May 09

    Vox said: "the last 4 relationships have been exclusively with black women as I find them more intelligent, tenacious, put up with less BS, more loving and loyal and last but not least more sexy than anything i’ve had prior". Menelik replies: Four relationships with such a wonderful, "loyal and loving" group of women is a pretty high turn-over, Vox lol

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  6.   ginala48 says:
    Posted: 11 May 09

    I find this blog so comforting...I too have been attracted to white men most of my adult life - no specific understanding as to why..and I grew up in Inner -city. Lots of teasing from family and friends..but black men always told me I don't act "black-enough." I am I suppose "an oreo." Now I am totally smitten by this man who is 1/2 Dutch and 1/2 Indonesian...am sooo nervous about letting him know, cause it seems sooo many men will play with you - you know be your 'friend' when they want more..but then one never knows if you will be just an experiment, or the real deal..I have been on both ends...and it is a bummer to really like someone who is too worried about what his family or friends will think..so I say to all who 'cross' over..you are brave..and I hope to be someday as well..?By the way, it (I believe) is really a preference, not a put down to black men...I find many black men WAY fine!!! But for a soulmate/partner...I think I have had a thing in my soul for men of different ethnic make up since I was a little girl...

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  7.   Meffie says:
    Posted: 11 May 09

    I agree with you: some people seem to think they're demonstrating how enlightened they are by dating outside their race. Personally, I date men I like....I tend to notice the personality first, followed by looks in general and then, as an afterthought, what race he is. Overall, I've dated more white guys than any other race simply because that's who connected with me, but esthetically, I've always been attracted to dark skin. I think it looks so beautiful against my pale skin. My ex Gus is so dark his skin is almost true black and I have to admit we made gorgeous patterns of light and dark. ;)

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  8.   Member says:
    Posted: 09 May 09

    Interracial relationships are attractive for 2 reasons. 1. Sexual experimentation. People in both races assume things will feel different with the opposite race (namely skin and more passion), which causes enticement. 2. Satisfy a social/self-perceptive deficiency. For white people (esp. men), it's usually social. Within each race we feel we have some incredible ability to size up and dismiss each other, even without speaking (women usually being the perpetrators). Many men are finding women of other races have more unassuming perceptions of them. For blacks, asians, latinos, etc., there is usually both social and self-perceptive reasons. It may not be that obvious to white people but minorities (PARTICULARLY those from non-white countries) have an unhealthy, self mutilating attraction to white people. Bleaching of the skin, surgery to reshape narrow eyes, forcing new accents, and all kinds of self hating acts. I think it is particularly disturbing when people can say "I'm attracted to black people (or white people)" as if it's an achievement. Having affinities to anything is usually indicative of something deeper. Figure out if you love yourself first before coming online and giving advice to others.

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  9.   Vox says:
    Posted: 06 May 09

    I've been asking myself the same question recently, especially as I find I have no inhibitions chatting up black women but clam up when speaking to white women. I can only ascertain that I can generally have an intelligent conversation with black girls and tend to find that many white girls always seem to judge if you are 'solvent' enough. Fair play I suppose, a woman has to eat (:-) but here in London, I find people can be very dismissive or always on the lookout for the 'step up'. Now, I been in some wonderful same colour relationships, have a creative career and can afford some luxuries, but the last 4 relationships have been exclusively with black women as I find them more intelligent, tenacious, put up with less BS, more loving and loyal and last but not least more sexy than anything i've had prior. Plus they seem to like me also! :-D Nay to pasty skin and flaky attitude! LOL

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  10.   Susan says:
    Posted: 04 May 09

    MOCHA CRAVENS As I previously stated, I've traveled all over the world and I have never seen black men dig in their nose in public. Only white men, some Asian, but 99.9 % was white men. Without any shame.

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  11.   Susan says:
    Posted: 04 May 09

    LISTENER I hear what you are saying but, if you believe that white men have been raised NOT TO ACT ON THEIR DESIRES, then why hasn't that stopped them for acting on their desires to have sex with other men.... to sexually abuse kids..... to murder their lovers/spouse..... to have sex with animals.... to be racist? These things that white men do, does not sound like someone who was raised NOT to act on their desires. I realize some races do some of the things I just described, but, we are speaking of white men right now!

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  12.   Fire321 says:
    Posted: 04 May 09

    I think for some white men there is a curiosity about being with a black woman. For others, I simply think they are generally into black women. For me, I personally don't want to get involved with a white guy who hasn't dated interracially because I don't want to be their "test subject". I know there has to be a first time for everything but I'm more comfortable with someone who has been down that road and knows about all the things he can be exposed to by dating me and vice versa.

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  13.   Beth13 says:
    Posted: 03 May 09

    I personally date whoever I find physically attractive and who responds to me...that good old "spark", you know? I prefer dark guys, but I've dated from all the races except Asian, so any of you Asian guys interested in an Irish lady, lemme know! LOL

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  14.   Ann says:
    Posted: 03 May 09

    Women like "athena" are to be pitied. She relaly believes that had she been JUST black or possibly JUST an African American she would be less intelligent as she is now. not that that is saying much for her. Mixed race is "smarter" more "beautiful" than regular blacks. She is another with the Tiger Woods mentality. Very sad. Say hello to Willie Lynch for me, sweetie.

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  15.   Ann says:
    Posted: 03 May 09

    xxnjxy do you really belive what you posted about some kind of litmus test a black woman has to pass before some white "gent" will date her? However, in reverse a black man would date any white woman and be grateful? You must be from an island.

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  16.   listener says:
    Posted: 03 May 09

    This is my first post. Cultures are different. White males have been brought up by white females for the most part. Boys end up looking for something similar to their mothers beause it is comfortable to do so. Additionally, white men are trained to be reserved with women as a sign of respect. This does not happen conciously, but piecemeal over time. It comes from the mother figure in his life. Next, only recently has the black woman begun to receive the time of day from the media and society. They were told for years they were second class citizens. Once again, not outwardly, but piecemeal indirectly over time. Having said all of that, I think that the black woman is just now coming into her own. Many are smart, cute, sucessful, phenomonal bodies, and sweet. They are terribly loyal. They might have had to wait longer, but they will be on top in the long run. It seems that 95% of black women like I just described are with white men. As I think about it, I can see why. They are very attrsctive to white men. For you women out ther who wonder why white guys rarely approach you, believe me , it is not because they do not want to. they have been RAISED to not carry out their desires. they have been emotionally drained in the process. they hsve been raised to produce income and families. It is too bad that they cannot have more fun in life. So, feel free to approach them. I think you will be pleasantly suprised more often than not.

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  17.   pedinurseguy says:
    Posted: 02 May 09

    I'm a 53 year old white guy married almost 7 years to a black female who is 46. when she asked me as we first started dating and getting serious why i would date a black woman my response was ''beauty knows no color and true love is colorblind''. she was layed off work shortly after our marriage and i explained to her that she did not need to work, that i could provide for her. she has not worked since. there is not much more to say. we have been together since even through some hard times for her but there have been good times too. when a man and a woman love each other not much else matters. just voicing my opinion on this subject.

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  18.   Bumpslick says:
    Posted: 01 May 09

    Aussie- Love - As we say in Jamaica " BIGG UP Girl " The key to any relationship is find true love n happiness. Once your fullfilled with all the needs your lookin for in a man you've hit the JACKPOT ! Your a very lucky woman. Susan- YUP YUP, Thats a fact BIG TIME...Thats another reason why Im hesitant to want to go that route neither. The pickin the nose thang LOL all races gots their nasty ass habits with that, u cant only single out the white dudes LOL! Menelik Charles - U alwayz make me smile ( kiss kiss )

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  19.   malarki5 says:
    Posted: 01 May 09

    Mocha, your the "sweetheart"...I mean, I bet you put up with compliments all day long and just gracefully take them in your stride lol Oh, to be a frog and to be kissed by you: I'd soon turn into a Prince, I can tell ya! Menelik Charles London England

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  20.   Susan says:
    Posted: 30 Apr 09

    I must say I am surprised at the amount of white men who are attracted to black women and enjoy dating them. I've noticed many times white men following the curves of my body with their eyes. But at times it seems like white men feel ashamed that they secretly desire me. It also seems like they try to take a quick look so they are not caught by their peers looking at a black woman. But to be honest dating a white man scares me because history/studies have shown, when a white man wants out of the relationship or marriage, instead of breaking it off or divorcing, they resort to murder without a second thought. Also some of their habits disgust me, I have traveled all over the world and white men always dig in their noses in public without any embarrassment. Of course, not everything applies to all white men but it's a high rate of them who fit this profile.

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  21.   Bumpslick says:
    Posted: 30 Apr 09

    @ Menelik Charles Ur such a sweetheart babes ! MUAH Im doin the dating thang for a bit until I find my Prince , guess I gotta kiss a few frogs until I find my Prince charming LOL! Thank u again 4 the compliments your too kind !

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  22.   malarki5 says:
    Posted: 30 Apr 09

    @ Mocha, the idea that you maybe single absolutely astounds me...honestly, it does! I hope that maybe you're between boyfriends as we say in England but single? Nah! Menelik Charles London

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  23.   aussie-love says:
    Posted: 30 Apr 09

    I have also read a few post here. Quite interesting. I'm a black African girl too, and I have always been attracted to white guys. I don't know why, but I would definitely date a handsome white guy over a stunning black guy any day. I live in Australia, and interracial relationships re quire a few here. But I have never cared what anyone says anyway. If you look happy together, confident and in love, people will admire you both and keep shut. I have always been proud to be seen anywhere with my white boyfriend, and likewise him too. I look past color. I don't even see color when I start dating someone, i see what they re about, if they re interesting, fun to be with and respect me, and also appreciate me for who I am and re genuinely interested in my life. This is what I look for. I'm so used to white guys that when a black guy approach me, I actually find it a bit funny (even though I'm a black girl) The black guys get a bit upset sometimes too when they see me hanging around my white bf in clubs or outside at the mall, etc. But hey, who cares. I'm a happy go lucky girl, and I just ignore anyone who gives me a weird look.

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  24.   Bumpslick says:
    Posted: 29 Apr 09

    C'mon Y'all Whats with all the barking @ each other back n forth about peoples prefernces? BIG DEAL if majority of the black women on this site prefer white men ( who cares ) everyone is entitled to their preferences really n truly. .... Honestly - U cant force people to want somenthing they are not interested in period. Im tryin to be more open in dating other races besides black men only, but its damn near hard - Im not sure how any woman could ever deny smoothe dark n sexy black men DAMN - A chocolate dream is hard to ignore !

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  25.   Erin365 says:
    Posted: 29 Apr 09

    hi people, i am a black woman and i am amazed that the first thing that arrtacts white me is our skin. i am not saying there is nothing wrong with that. I just have a question. does anyone think that is why white people get tans. to try and blind themself as close to our color. i see that alot on t'v white woman tanning herself practically brown. it's just my opinion but anyone else have a insight.

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  26.   malarki5 says:
    Posted: 28 Apr 09

    @Mocha ado about nothing, sweety lol Really, you shouldn't be thanking me but thanking your parents...you've got an awsome gene pool, babe! Thanks for suggesting that you'll be keeping it in the 'family'! Menelik Charles London England

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  27.   Bumpslick says:
    Posted: 27 Apr 09

    Sorry - I meant to say I luv you guyz !

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  28.   Bumpslick says:
    Posted: 27 Apr 09

    Melenik Charles- Thank you sweetheart, U guys sure know how to make a sista feel special. I luv guyz !

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  29.   LilSnowWhite says:
    Posted: 27 Apr 09

    If you look at people with your heart, color is not an issue. If you have an open mind, which is why I joined this site, you meet other like-minded individuals. I choose character, intelligence, the ability to communicate well, common goals and aspirations over any specific color. I know what makes me tick... I'm looking for someone with that same hard-to-define thing. Be true to yourself. Follow your heart. Speaking as a woman of color, peaches and cream...., any woman who takes care of herself physically and spiritually, loves with all her heart, has courage, takes care of her family and man, and challenges herself to excel is attractive and appealing to a man who appreciates and seeks these qualities in the opposite sex. Ultimately, it's not about color - it's about the quality of that person.

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  30.   malarki5 says:
    Posted: 27 Apr 09

    Hello people, Alex raye gives a very good impression of a Black woman who is most certainly f**kable but totally non-marriage material...seriously, she sounds absolutely awful! If white men could take the likes of her off our hands (please!) our children would stand a much better shot at having worthy mothers to raise them right! Menelik Charles London England Ps Mocha Cravens, I'm not on here looking for a mate or date but if you were over in England you'd stop traffic...you are gorgeous, sista friend!

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  31.   athena says:
    Posted: 26 Apr 09

    I am a mixed race woman happily married to a Caucasian American man. I have to admit there is much more passion and happiness in interracial relationships. It is something about the stronger sexual attraction and the essence of life. Jesus Christ said love God and love your neighbor if you want to go to heaven. Anybody telling you otherwise is making up lies. Many mixed race children are astonishingly beautiful, exotic, intelligent, healthy and magnetic. If you are considering it go for it. Some trolls might tell you about IQ and other nonsense like that. I have HIGH IQ and so do many other mixed race, Asian, African, Caribbean, Eurasian, Hispanic professionals in science, engineering, medicine, nursing, accounting, information technology, etc. We may not be well potrayed/ exposed in the American media, but go to any high tech university, company or institution and you will find us there. Scientific truth is always better than superstition. If you are considering interracial relationships feel free to follow your heart and go for it.

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  32.   Member says:
    Posted: 26 Apr 09

    Dear White regrets Stop making excuses. You loved that white woman. Now your trying to say you like black women. You are a coward for not following your heart loser. You admit to using black women for sex then marrying a black woman under the guise of "family' making you do it. Maybe these desperate dumb black women on here will believe you. There is a good chance they will. Have a nice day.

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  33.   LuckymanFGMOWIL says:
    Posted: 26 Apr 09

    I am 42 white and I have been with, dated, and married black women since 1984. I have a black daughter, who just graduated college with a 4.0 I m sorry but Dad has got too brag it is in our DNA. I have dated black women from Europe, Jamaica, and America. I have read your blogs and I am entertained. I at one time or another have held most of your positions or views. It is very true that women regardless of race or age are all inherently and individually different. Why do I prefer to be with black women I think it has to do more with how I perceive beauty. Black women to me are complex magical, tragic, valiant, intuitive, natural, intelligent, willful, and physically blessed by god. The one thing they are not is dull. I have had the most fulfilling times of my life in simple interaction with black women of all ages from all walks of life rich or poor. If you think that all black women are after your money you are I have to say a fool. If you are white and a black woman is with you she is making a sacrifice she is standing up against the world for you and if you can't understand that then maybe you should move on. Black women are very close to the essence of being human and at the same time very spiritual and close to god. Very emotional if I had a nickel for every time I had to duck a flying ashtray or heard the phase I will cut you I would be a rich man. The other side of that is if you are ever lucky enough to be loved by a black woman and you are smart enough to appreciate that. Your original question of why do white men love black women wouldn't be so much of a mystery. To all the black women I have read on this site. Thank you for your courage. A man standing up for what he wants, is a man, if he doesn't he is a coward. A woman making that same move no matter what the race is courageous. For you young white men so full of testosterone who want sex from black women I suggest that you get a black girlfriend between the ages of 36 to 44. I personally avoid them I have a weak heart. Be happy live as men and women, not crayons joy is a hard thing to find, and it is harder to hold on too. I am a Luck Man For Going My Own Way In Life

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  34.   john says:
    Posted: 25 Apr 09

    Karen, All initial attraction is superficial by definition. We can't be attracted to anything 'of substance' as you say, especially if two people meet as strangers with no prior interaction. Additionally, not all superficial attraction is negative. There are certain things that draw us to one another and that is only natural. Of course, the problem with superficiality it when attraction fails to move beyond that area. When a relationship has gone on for a while and one party or the other is still interested in the other only because they drive a nice car or have a big booty there is a problem, but it should not be a problem that a man may be attracted to the figure of a black woman in the first place. Whjat else does he have to go on initially? My attraction to black women is their beautiful dark skin. When a black woman asks me what my attraction to black women is, I tell her as much. Eventually I will grow to appreciate many more things about her than just her beautiful skin. If that doesn't happen, then we are not a match and I will not continue to date her simply because she is a beautiful black woman. However, my initial attraction is to the beautiful appearance of black women and I don't think that's anything that is shallow or that I should have to feel bad about or apologize for.

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  35.   Cibal09 says:
    Posted: 25 Apr 09

    I'm a woman and I like men.

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  36.   Member says:
    Posted: 25 Apr 09

    I dated a few black woman but married a white woman because I was scared of racial issues in the family. Wrong move!!! I am still very atttracted and in love with one of my ex black girl friends. I miss her terribly and I am constantly thinking of her. Well, I made my bed so now I must sleep in it. All I can say if you love black females, go for it. Dont be a fool like me and let family get in the way because you will never ever be happy. When I talk about missing I am not only talking about sex. I miss her laughter, conversation and company.

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  37.   tahunter says:
    Posted: 24 Apr 09

    My man is white and he is the best....

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  38.   Member says:
    Posted: 24 Apr 09

    I am a white male dating a black female, and I must say, I am highly more attracted to black women than white women. For one, darker skin to me is much better looking than pale white skin. Also, the black woman I am with has been the best girlfriend I've ever had. I was skeptical at first about dating her, because she was black, but then I realzied that skin color didn't matter and started dating her. Her personality and the way she handles herself and makes me happy is what keeps me around.

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  39.   Bumpslick says:
    Posted: 23 Apr 09

    Thank you 4 the compliment Mr Laurelton Queens your very sweet !

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  40.   Bumpslick says:
    Posted: 23 Apr 09

    LUV LUV LUV sexy azz BLACK MEN ...MUAH

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  41.   Member says:
    Posted: 22 Apr 09

    first off i know alot of people may hate me for this and tell me beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we are all ONE RACE, but to me and my 3 black girlfriends and my sister LOVE US A SEXY WHITEBOY! me personally i have been attracted to them since pre-k with my first bf Ethan. from that point on I never looked back. I have dated 3 black guys and I went RIGHT BACK to a snowbunny (as i like to call caucasian males). I feel they approach me in a way respectful manner,they treat me better they love harder and they just are F***** SEXY period! Now i dont look at any other race the way i look at a whiteboy! VIVALAWHITEBOYS!

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  42.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 20 Apr 09

    The thing that I love about Statistics is how lopsided that they are. As for right now, when somebody tries to compare Interracial Divorce rate Stats Vs. Same Race Divorce rate Stats, it is not even relevant. The last time that a credible Case study was done was in the mid to late 90's. It is 2009 people! People always trying to post some stats from 1986 come on! That is irrelevant! The Number Was 41% in 1996. Percentages can give a false representation any way! For instance! Married Couples in the United States in 2006: White Husband with a.... White Wife - 50,224,000 Asian Wife - 530,000 Other Wife - 489,000 Black Wife - 117,000 Black Husband with a.... Black Wife - 3,965,000 White Wife - 286,000 Other Wife - 45,000 Asian Wife - 34,000 Asian Husband with a.... Asian Wife - 2,493,000 White Wife - 174,000 Other Wife - 13,000 Black Wife - 6,000 Other Husband with a.... Other Wife - 558,000 White Wife - 535,000 Asian Wife - 41,000 Black Wife - 23,000 Lets do some numbers here! Total same race marriages - 57,240,000 Total Interracial marriages - 2,293,000 Same race divorce was 31% = 17,744,400 Interracial Divorce was 41% = 940,130 HMMMM that was in the late 90's???? And Don't forget I'm using the Numbers from 2006 and the Percentages from the late 90's! The numbers were a lot smaller back in the late 90's then they are now! Department of Family and Consumer Studies and Some top Collages in America released a Paper on the subject in 2006 stating "No research has investigated divorce differentials between interracial and same-race couples in the U.S. using recent national data and modern statistical techniques." Not sure how a study from the late 90's with numbers like that can't help anybodies point be proven in a positive or negative. I'm am absolutely Sure that if the total amounts were near the same, that the interracial marriage would have a way better percentage then Same Race, I could even go as far to say, it could possibly be close! But when crunching numbers the match just doesn't work out in that favor! Lets all just wait for a new accredited study to come out! Then Numbers can be thrown up again!!!!

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  43.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 18 Apr 09

    LOL....cute sly reference, Mr. Q....but your opinion is based on what????What have I ever said or reflected here that indicates any sort of hatred (self or otherwise). You can try and answer that but I know you will only resort to calling names and other narrow-minded BS....so why bother??? I am done "debating" with certain individuals because what it all amounts to is narcissism and masturbation (guess that is why some are hunting for book deals and radio show about this crap....lol). After you have "gotten off" and felt like you really "told someone about themselves" what else do you really have????NOTHING but alot of hot air. If anyone has ever seen the movie TALK RADIO you know what I am speaking of......it's all just entertainment. And what we have here is just another form of the "mistrel show".....someone putting on the face of the "asshole" just to get a rise out of the masses. Like I said before, once this (cartoon) character recognized that he could not really "rile" me up he decided to just throw labels....typical. I find this all interesting though and Mr. Q has informed me on some issues. And although I don't personally know him, (counting blessings there...lol)I sincerely hope he FAILS at his attempt to spread the poison. Sorry....I mean, I know poison/hate/negativity is more "lucrative" (now who is the REAL sellout..LOL) and I can tell that he has done SOME homework yet I can NOT with a clear conscience wish this character well. His main audience will be spiteful men of color that already have a hate-on for women.....and while HE may not actually commit any crime there WILL be weak-minded folk listening and we KNOW what comes next. Keep in mind I said CANNOT SUPPORT...that does not mean I completely condemn him. He is only taking the easiest road to what he hopes will be fame and wealth.....I totally understand this. I just hope that anyone else that chooses to engage this character again also understands this. Half of the crap he spouts he probably doesn't even believe. More than likely he is just on here to gather up the "minions" and move on (and maybe a little bit for the "shits and giggles" factor). Ahhhhh....enlightenment is a wonderous thing.....Peace and Blessings, good people (back to your regularly scheduled banter)

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  44.   Member says:
    Posted: 17 Apr 09

    Your right, mr Laurelton Queens their is no law against bigotry. Maybe you should get that tatted on your forehead. Then you can witness your own delusion every time you catch a glimpse of yourself in the mirror. As for your statistics, 40% is good, given it's 50% across the board.

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  45.   Member says:
    Posted: 17 Apr 09

    Dear Gene You used your definition of "sellout" and now you want to apply it to "other races of women". I am just glad you accept the fact their are sellout black women. Your perception is biased because you are married to a black woman. There is no law that people have to agree with interracial dating. Since you can separate the "loose" black women from the "good black women" that is quite an accomplishment that you have achieved. The Bride's parents are supposed to pay for the Honeymoon. My views are not skewed. I address those sellout black women that bash black men. I don't hate anybody. Hate is such a strong word. I would disagree on the whole premise of interracial dating. 40 percent of interracial marriages fail. God bless if you make it past the four year mark. As for this issue of control. There is always a dominate personality in a relationship. If anything my fiancee controls me. She is passive aggressive. Somebody is always in control of the relationship even when you think "it's equal". Have a nice honeymoon. As for the other "one" she hates herself and her race. Maybe she should "tatto" that to death. Have a nice day.

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  46.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 17 Apr 09

    Good, you read my post! And I see that you know what a definition is! That is good as well! The point is that this definition is not the definition of any Black woman I know or have Dated! Do not get me Wrong! That definition applies to Some black woman, just as it does some white woman, and some black men and some white men and any other race or gender in the world! Believe me this the Sellout that you are referring to is going to be that same person to any guy or girl that he or she is in a relationship with! Black, White, Hispanic, Asian! That is just who that person is! A sellout! That is not the definition of a black woman that dates interracially! And that is what you are leaning toward in your post! Why is that?? Again like I said "HATER"!!!! Pure and Simple. Its sad because it sounds and looks like you could be a very articulate and Smart man, but your views are very skewed, and when you post it defiantly takes away from that! And even in your very last sentence your true colors shine! "Hey “White homey” keep your black woman in check YA DIG!" Nice that you had to point out the white part? I guess I called you "Black Homie"???,,, nah my post really wasn't pointed at your race or color, just your views. But hey Your true Colors shine! If You were a white Guy I would not have changed One word in my post! It basically proved my very first response! You have a thing With Race. Its ok for you to be racist, and really its ok for you to hate a Black woman being with a white man. But just be real and just say you don't like it and you hate it! Don't try and Label black woman that do date white guy due to the issue that you have with it! Label yourself! Say "I'm a Hater, Because I hate seeing a black woman with a white man" Just sit back and Hate! Like I said its just a race thing! Hence why you hate on Black woman that dates White guys! Its all about Race and not really Selling out! One other thing "Homie" You may have to Keep your "Black Woman" or "White Woman" in Check because that sounds like the type of person that you are! But My girl Don't need no Checking! We have a Great Relationship With Out controlling each other! So I guess if you into controlling woman, Keep yours in check, Because my "Black Woman" Is her own Person YA DIGG!!!!!!!!!! Ashley, PS. Oh yeah the reunion was dope! Not really like "Madea's". But all good all the same! Oh and LegalEaseII we are now going on a year and a half! We are planing a wedding somewhere in the Caribbean sometime in the late summer. And guess what Mr Laurelton Queens Her parents are paying for it! WOW Am I a sellout? I guess so! Oh well, we are one happy sellout couple! And tatted I know, but it doesn't hurt to try! Send ya pics after the wedding yeah???

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  47.   tatted2death says:
    Posted: 17 Apr 09

    And with every post he (and his "minions"...lol) make, he continues to prove my point....too much time on one's hands leads to all sorts of online madness. His "girlfriend/fiance" must be lonely.....lol. To Ashley.....word to the wise, steer clear of this one......he only reads/sees/understands what he chooses to, therefore any view stated by a stated by who he sees as a "sellout" or a "sellout lover" (that would be you....lol) is ignored/misconstrued/straight out twisted. I have tried to approach this individual with respect but you can imagine how that went. Eventually he recognized who he was really "phukin wit" and decided it would be best to just throw the labels on me and be done. I really did not expect much more from someone that seems intent upon spreading their poison on virtually every thread in this blog. I don't have any true hatred for the man but I think he truly needs to wake from this fog of malcontent and this fantasy that every "sellout" is out to get him. Just my opinion. Peace and Blessings tatted2death P.S. As for myself, there is NO insecurity when it comes to any other human being on this planet. NO ONE is perfect but I will be damned if I will be looked down on based on superficial features. NO ONE has walked in my shoes therefore when it comes to telling my story only one individual can properly fill the bill. Anyone that tries to get the "Cliff Notes" version is summarily dismissed. Yet on the flipside, if I am not your cup of tea believe me when I say I lose not a wink of sleep (there are plenty other willing to "add the sugar" and "keep it real"..) OH YEAH......shouts to Legal and smooches...The Vets know wats up.....lol.

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  48.   Member says:
    Posted: 16 Apr 09

    Let me address Gene You gave the definition of the term "sellout" "Selling out - refers to the compromising of one’s integrity, morality and principles in exchange for money, success or other personal gain. It is commonly associated with attempts to increase mass appeal or acceptability to mainstream society. A person who does this, as opposed to continuing along his or her original path, is labeled a sellout and typically regarded with disgust and immediate loss of respect. Selling out is often seen as gaining success at the cost of credibility." Now let me get this right, a black woman that was never interested in a white man. Now all of sudden, wants to be with you. That is not compromising your beliefs right? They are trying to gain success by bashing black men to gain credibility with white men. I was wrong how? Hater, jealous of what exactly? I have a fiancee, a job, and a home. I am not complaining about not finding a "person to date", so I will "date this person instead". I am glad you had a reunion. Judging from the way you write it must have been a "Madea" Family Reunion lol. This "homey" keeps it real lol. People that write me often prove my point. He gives me the definition of "sellout" and it describes sellout black women perfectly. I have to head to lunch. Look for my new post on my blog CNN " To be a Desperate Sellout Black woman in America" without Sole"dud". Hey "White homey" keep your black woman in check YA DIG! LOL

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  49.   LegalEaseII says:
    Posted: 16 Apr 09

    Wow: Greetings fellow enlightened people of all persuasions. I admit I have been away for a spell and have not contributed on a regular basis but I have been following as of late. Before I put my two cents in, I would like to send greetings to Tatted, sistuh of my spirit and Geneandthem (Ashley) always good to hear your thoughts and soak in your passionate responses. Congrats on the new girlfriend. I wish you both a long and happy relationship. To the rest of you, GREETINGS and well wishes. Now on to my soap box: When I began to read this blog I thought FINALLY, some people who were not afraid to touch on this topic. As I have stated in the past, I have dated white, black (American and Caribbean), Asian and Hispanic men. Some were great and some were jerks, not due to the color of their skin but more to do with "WHO" they were. I do not think Afro women are more damming to Afro men than any other race that disappoint or abuse them. It is just that the concept of Afro women outwardly taking a chance on themselves to be loved outside of their color designation is so new, it seems like that is the case. I do not believe black women have to limit themselves to "dating within the race" or be seen as anything other than women who deserved to love and be loved by someone of their own choosing, despite color. Black men have historically and presently exercised their right to date across color lines and now we are following in their deeply trodden foot steps. I have never denied anyone the right to date whomever they wanted and request the same respect in the same. Instead of using denigrating, outdated euphemisms like "sellout", why don't we look at it start saying we are cashing in. Cashing in on the right to love and be loved by someone who wants to be with us? Cashing in on finally accepting the fact that we are deserving of love and commitment from whomever wants to step up to the place. . Now before some people focus in on the word "cashing", I want to make it clear that I am talking about coming to the full realization that Afro women are just as confident, beautiful and loving as anyone else and should not be made to feel that we are anything less for seeing potential for relationships outside of our color line. This concept of Afro women being “gold-diggers” or with white men because of their money is crazy. Unless you are talking about generational wealth, the concept is ludicrous. There is a dearth of professional Afro women who own their own homes, businesses, and cars, why should they be limited to some misconception that they can only be loved by an Afro man? I am so dismayed by the fact that we have to tolerate the unqualified, disparaging and condescending comments on this site, but it is an open forum we must tolerate all views. Notice I said tolerate, not agree with or like, merely tolerate the acid retorts of some people. I think Ashley hit it on the head when he said “2. Hater - Overused word that people like to use just because someone else expresses a dislike for a certain individual.” So we must “tolerate” and pray for the people who cannot see past their own pain and let others be happy. I hope everyone is blessed in their day!!!

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  50.   geneandthem says:
    Posted: 16 Apr 09

    Ok the whole thing that keeps killing me? The Term "sellout"! You are only associating this with Black woman? There are "Sellouts" Of all kinds and in every aspect of life! What you are doing tho is calling basically all the Black woman that date interracial "sellouts" and it doesn't make sense? Sounds like there is some underlying hate there somewhere! Really Lets start a new term for you "Hater" Because you thoughts are based on Hate and not actual fact. Yes I'm sure that you have seen some woman that are like this, but there are the same type of woman in every race. Just as I have seen woman like this but they are of assorted race! You don't like the thought of a Black woman being with a White man so you label black woman who do so "sellouts"! All the black woman I have dated and known have never been even close to the Term "Sellout" DEFINITION: Selling out - refers to the compromising of one's integrity, morality and principles in exchange for money, success or other personal gain. It is commonly associated with attempts to increase mass appeal or acceptability to mainstream society. A person who does this, as opposed to continuing along his or her original path, is labeled a sellout and typically regarded with disgust and immediate loss of respect. Selling out is often seen as gaining success at the cost of credibility. Now All the Woman I know, are very far from this! All the woman I have ever dated or met are far from this! All of the Big groups of peeps I kick it with are not even close to this! So like I said "Hater" Thats what you are! You talk about not sugarcoating, but in all reality All you are doing is sugarcoating the fact of the real issue that you have with black woman that date interracially by calling them sellouts! Don't fault a entire group Black woman by labeling them "sellouts" when in fact the real issue for you is just that you cant stand it! I'm assuming that you got bucked down by one or probably even a bunch of sisters that you eventually seen with a white boy! Hence Selling out because they didn't get with you? HMMMMM?? DEFINITION: 1. Hater - A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person. Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesn't really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock someone else down a notch. 2. Hater - Overused word that people like to use just because someone else expresses a dislike for a certain individual. 3. Hater - A person who feels anger and/or jealousy for someone who has succeeded in something they have worked hard for. A being who speaks badly,and/or takes negative actions in attempt to create problems for a successful person. Now I will tell you one thing for Sure! Those are all definitions that Fit yo A$$$$$$ To a T. Mr Laurelton Queens stop Sugarcoating your real Reason for dislike of the topic at hand! How should I say it! Keep it real homie, we all See you! Sup tatted2death, Sup smooches, THX Caribeman for da Props! PS. Just got back from my Girls (yes she is BLACK! Took her to meet my whole fam One month into our dating by the way) HUGE 7 Generation Family Reunion! There were like 300 peeps there had a blast! And was loved by all! I love my New Beautiful Family! Shoots Ashley,

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